Immigrant Amnesty Debate - Austin, TX

Discuss the national Immigrant Amnesty debate in Austin, TX.

Do you support Gingrich's suggestion to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants with deep roots in the U.S.?

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toby aichelman

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Nov 29, 2011
 
they broke the law
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Nov 29, 2011
 
toby aichelman wrote:
they broke the law
Reagan administration engineered a "One time Amnesty" in the 1980's. It didn't solve the illegal immigration problem.

Should there be a statute of limitations for illegal immigration?

Would that solve the problem?

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Nov 30, 2011
 
No... Secure the border first. These Mexican cartel punks are barbaric animals and are as bad as the muzzies and their antics. We have the three stooges running things, King Barry struts around looking down his nose at everyone, homeland security chief Butch Nopolitano waddles around telling everyone how safe Mexico is, and while King Rat Eric Holder and the ATF are planting automatic weapons with the mexican cartels he fumbles around with whether or not to give our civil rights to terrorists. We need to put up a military blockade all along the southern border. There should be absolutely no border crossing either way. The trade between countries should be suspended until further notice. Absolutely nothing comes across the border or snipers shoot to kill. We need drone bombings and hard military enforcement against these cartels. They can choke on their drugs and any other contraband they may wish to bring across. We can resume normal relations once we get our immigration and laws straightened out and Mexico gets their cartels under control.
El Cid

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Dec 3, 2011
 
All illegal aliens are criminals no matter how long they have been here, illegally. If they are working here then they are breaking yet another law or laws. They seek medical services and most have no intent to pay, that is called fraud, also a crime. Their lists of crims are immunmerable but bottom line is that criminals need never be rewarded.

“Little boxes, little boxes...”

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Dec 3, 2011
 
El Cid wrote:
All illegal aliens are criminals no matter how long they have been here, illegally. If they are working here then they are breaking yet another law or laws. They seek medical services and most have no intent to pay, that is called fraud, also a crime. Their lists of crims are immunmerable but bottom line is that criminals need never be rewarded.
I love how people are able to just bundle a group of people as "others" as "they" referring to the whole diaspora, it makes it much easier for you to say such inaccurate things about them. My entire family is from Mexico, worked their asses off here doing jobs that lazy ass Americans are too proud to do so that they could send me to a great university to contribute to the American society. My family has never searched out medical services intending not to pay, they always paid for it, often times paying more because they have no insurance. "Their" list of crimes are not innumerable...they are not drug pushers, molesters, abusers or anything of the kind. Just hard working individuals who were born in a country that was oppressive and violent. Can you really blame them for searching for a better life for their family? I am a product of their "crimes": a full time Pharm D student and social issue documentary filmmaker. They don't need any validation from people like you are "rewards" from you because I am their rewars, the only thing they ever cared about- a better life for their children.
Holders Burden

Covina, CA

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Dec 12, 2011
 
Holder will cost Obama the election with Watergate 2.
Austinite

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#9
Dec 16, 2011
 
Arrest all illegal aliens since they are all criminals, then deport them back to wherever they came from.
Also arrest anyone who knowingly employs or otherwise aids them as it is a crime to knowingly aid and abet criminals.
Knowya

San Antonio, TX

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Dec 17, 2011
 
NatalieAnastacia wrote:
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I love how people are able to just bundle a group of people as "others" as "they" referring to the whole diaspora, it makes it much easier for you to say such inaccurate things about them. My entire family is from Mexico, worked their asses off here doing jobs that lazy ass Americans are too proud to do so that they could send me to a great university to contribute to the American society. My family has never searched out medical services intending not to pay, they always paid for it, often times paying more because they have no insurance. "Their" list of crimes are not innumerable...they are not drug pushers, molesters, abusers or anything of the kind. Just hard working individuals who were born in a country that was oppressive and violent. Can you really blame them for searching for a better life for their family? I am a product of their "crimes": a full time Pharm D student and social issue documentary filmmaker. They don't need any validation from people like you are "rewards" from you because I am their rewars, the only thing they ever cared about- a better life for their children.
Would you call "lazy ass Americans" a "bundle" job? Your family didn't work any harder than mine did. And I noticed you used the past tense when you talked about them being from Mexico, a country that "was" oppressive and violent. Hell, you're not even remotely connected to "real time". I'll bet your documentaries smell like a pile of Squid left in the Texas sun for three weeks, and I'll bet they're really laced with inaccurate, biased, biggoted, slanted racist views of white Anglo America. Let me know when you apply for a Pharmacist license. I would like to give the Board my opinion.
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San Antonio, TX

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#11
Dec 18, 2011
 
Deep roots don't apply to violations of the law.
Legal methods of immigration have been in place for decades and amnesty from sanctions for being in the U.S. illegally have been offered on at least one occasion within the past 30 years, and has not resulted inany relief from illegal immigration problems.
Chuggaboom

Austin, TX

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#12
Dec 23, 2011
 
All illegal aliens need to be deported, period. They surpress wages at alot of jobs to such a level that even if the job is available to a legal resident it is too low a wage for a decent living, even at times below minimum wage. Most breed like rats and then line up for every dime of welfare they can get. I get stuck with their hospital and other services they do not pay for, and my kids in public school do not need a foreign language class at school because the school itself is all in Mexican, not Spanish, just a real slang/gutteral dialect of Castillian.
guesswho

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Feb 10, 2012
 
YEAH OBVIOUSLY YALL ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT THATS WHY HALF YOUR STATE IS RUNNING FOR THE HILLS ALONGSIDE ARIZONA AND MOST OF CALIFORNIA-NOTHING LIKE A LITTLE PAID EXTORTION TO MAKE WAY FOR MEXICAN EXPANSION-I CAN SEE WHY THE MEXICANS ARE KICKING OUT THE CALIFORNIANS BUT I THOUGHT TEXANS WERE A DIFFERENT BREED!1250
guesswho

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#14
Feb 10, 2012
 
WAKE UP PEOPLE YOUR PAYING TO BE ROBBED !
CALIFORNIANS GAVE THEM FREE CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE CALLED "RACISTS" AND NOW THAT THEY DID -THEY ARE RACISTS! BECAUSE THE RACISTS ARE KICKING THEM OUT-BY OKIE DOKING AMERICA OUT OF THEIR OWN STATES!AND NOW CALIFORNIANS HAVE MADE THE WHOLE WEST COAST ANOTHER THRID WORLD FEAR INFESTED,TRASHED OUT,SMOGGED UP MINORITY RACIST ENABLING,CRIME INFESTED POLICE STATE JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE THEY JUST SO PROUDLY RAN FROM!WTF?
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#15
Feb 10, 2012
 
NOW WHOS GONNA LIKE TOTALLY MOW MY LAWN ? OMG?
OR BE MY MAID? UGH!
ITS ALL GOOD THEY JUST MOVED WHEN THEY GOT THE BILL AND WITH AN "OOPSY SORRY" HEE HEE LETS JUST PLAY PRETEND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN ????LAUGHING IT OFF AND MOVING TO TRASH ANOTHER STATE WITH THE SAME MESS DUMPING IT ON EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY AND PICK UP AFTER THEM
SPIKE JONES

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Feb 12, 2012
 
NO WAY

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Feb 12, 2012
 
NatalieAnastacia wrote:
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I love how people are able to just bundle a group of people as "others" as "they" referring to the whole diaspora, it makes it much easier for you to say such inaccurate things about them. My entire family is from Mexico, worked their asses off here doing jobs that lazy ass Americans are too proud to do so that they could send me to a great university to contribute to the American society. My family has never searched out medical services intending not to pay, they always paid for it, often times paying more because they have no insurance. "Their" list of crimes are not innumerable...they are not drug pushers, molesters, abusers or anything of the kind. Just hard working individuals who were born in a country that was oppressive and violent. Can you really blame them for searching for a better life for their family? I am a product of their "crimes": a full time Pharm D student and social issue documentary filmmaker. They don't need any validation from people like you are "rewards" from you because I am their rewars, the only thing they ever cared about- a better life for their children.
Mexicans care about a better life but never to improve their country so they can get that better life. I feel somehow no matter how many or how smart Mexicans are they can never get together and get anything done. Only when they cross the border do they magically become smart enough to do anything.

They are terrorized to go back to their country even with a degree because they know they can't get anything done. They need the American system to function.
Mike

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Feb 12, 2012
 
What will make them follow our laws if we give them amnesty on ones they have already broken?
Austinite

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Mike wrote:
What will make them follow our laws if we give them amnesty on ones they have already broken?
Criminal should never be rewarded for their crimes. As with the last amnesty millions of them will be able to collect welfare for themselves and not just their American born children. Millions will be able to collect disability and other things from Social Security, despite not paying a dime into it, except if they broke another law and committed identity theft by using somebody elses Social Security number and so on.
Millions will be able to have their families in the old country legally come to America and then we would have millions more people, some working, some in school, some on welfare, and so on.
Cheapest, best, and the right thing to do is arrest and deport all illegal aliens.

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Feb 22, 2012
 
NatalieAnastacia wrote:
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I love how people are able to just bundle a group of people as "others" as "they" referring to the whole diaspora, it makes it much easier for you to say such inaccurate things about them. My entire family is from Mexico, worked their asses off here doing jobs that lazy ass Americans are too proud to do so that they could send me to a great university to contribute to the American society. My family has never searched out medical services intending not to pay, they always paid for it, often times paying more because they have no insurance. "Their" list of crimes are not innumerable...they are not drug pushers, molesters, abusers or anything of the kind. Just hard working individuals who were born in a country that was oppressive and violent. Can you really blame them for searching for a better life for their family? I am a product of their "crimes": a full time Pharm D student and social issue documentary filmmaker. They don't need any validation from people like you are "rewards" from you because I am their rewars, the only thing they ever cared about- a better life for their children.
The problem is anchor baby is they didn't do it LEGAL. That is the part you wetbacks don't understand LEGAL! "they always payed" says a lying cheat, that steals what ever they want! What makes shit like you and others think we owe you anything? MEXICO is a shit country but shit from there come here unwanted and you still wave your shit country flag! you cant even spell and you are a pharmacist?? if i see any wetbacks behind the counter in a drug store i am leaving.DON'T get to comfortable you and your whole mooching family of roaches because these lazy AMERICANS like me are going to get your lazy bum ass out no matter how long it takes!!

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Feb 22, 2012
 
he thinks he can still get votes from both sides by saying that bs if you stole a car robbed a bank 25 yrs ago get caught still go to prison so at the very least they should STILL be kicked out

“Little boxes, little boxes...”

Since: Jan 09

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Feb 25, 2012
 
spytheweb wrote:
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Mexicans care about a better life but never to improve their country so they can get that better life. I feel somehow no matter how many or how smart Mexicans are they can never get together and get anything done. Only when they cross the border do they magically become smart enough to do anything.
They are terrorized to go back to their country even with a degree because they know they can't get anything done. They need the American system to function.
You have obviously never been to Mexico for any extended period of time so please don't make assumptions because you have no idea what you are talking about...as can be seen by the content of your ignorant post.

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