Health Care Debate - Topeka, KS

Limits on individual annual health care expenditures, fine for no health insurance. Specifics hidden in proposed bill

Why would anyone not be in support of education, a job, affordable housing and health for all. Are we idiots compared to the rest of the Western World! If you want to make sure that are presidents gets health care right, get involved in a positive way instead of appearing like a selfish, scared, uninformed citizen. Make it right for you and all Americans

Nobody should be turned away or lose everything they own for health care if they get sick.

Please someone, correct me if I'm wrong, but the proposal to 'reform' our health care is to require us all to purchase Health Insurance..........

Not require all health care providers to care for all our health needs.

Health Insurance has always been a gamble. They do not cover ALL our needs, but only some. You still have to pay those monthly health insurance payments, AND your doctor bills, lab tests, hospital bills, medicines, dental care, etc because the Insurance companies do NOT HAVE to pay for EVERYTHING.

Now, on top of our medical bills those of us who have not had access to health insurance will now have THAT monthly payment to make!

Eliminating that billion dollar, middleman industry is the way to bring down health care costs....

Let the government put any money they were considering into helping the Health care providers to keep down their costs to us and lets get rid of the Health Insurance business.

because it is wrong and will help Obama destroy this nation.

Its not his job to give me healthcare...healthcare is not a right, contrary to popular thought right now by Americans who seem to think the government is here to be our parents.

heather wrote:

Why would anyone not be in support of education, a job, affordable housing and health for all. Are we idiots compared to the rest of the Western World! If you want to make sure that are presidents gets health care right, get involved in a positive way instead of appearing like a selfish, scared, uninformed citizen. Make it right for you and all Americans

It is every Americans right to work and earn all the things you have mentioned. It is not every Americans responsability to provide it for you. Otherwise no Am,erican would work if they are not required to and then where will all the things you listed come from??

it's about time someone does something besides talk!

IF YOU DON’T READ THEM ALL.... BE SURE TO LOOK AT # 58-59

WOW!! Lets hear it for the Judge! The article is in the Marble Falls, Texas newspaper. It was written by our former county judge, David Kithil. He voiced his opposition to HB 3200, and gave EXACT SPECIFICS, to include page and paragraph in the bill on why this Health Bill is BAD.

I called Thomas Edwards, Editor of the River Cities Tribune, to get legal permission to quote David Kithil's comments. He gave me that permission, so I can quote him. Here are excerpts from the article, giving EXACT pages and paragraphs in the bill and why it is so bad. You can forward this to all of your addressees. I think he hits everything right on the head and
the opposition you may encounter cannot argue over these points:

JUDGE KITHIL: "I have reviewed selected sections of the bill and find it unbelievable that our Congress, led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, could come up with a bill loaded with so many wrong-headed elements. We do need to reform the health insurance system in America in order to make coverage affordable and available to everyone. But, how many of us believe our federal government can manage a new program any better than the bankrupt Medicare program or the underfunded Social Security program? Both Republicans and Democrats are equally responsible for the financial mess of those two
programs.

I am opposed to HB 3200 for a number of reasons. To start with, it is estimated that a federal bureaucracy of more than 150,000 new employees will be required to administer HB3200. That is an unacceptable expansion of a government that is already too intrusive in our lives. If we are going to hire 150,000 new employees, let's put them to work protecting our borders, fighting the massive drug problem and putting more law enforcement/firefighters out there."
NOW, here comes the good stuff: "Other problems I have with this bill include:

Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.

Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order."

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on: " Finally, it is specifically stated this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick "fix" to make the plan financially sound for the future."

Honorable David Kithil
Marble Falls , Texas

All of the above should give you all the point blank ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this info on to all your email addressees.........

Obama is the Worst!!! Never ever liked him and McCain would totally of been a better president!!! I smell a cross burning!

YA you heard me f***ing Negro!