Health Care Debate - Snohomish, WA

All sick people deserve affordable health care. And the distribution of wealth has gotten ridiculous. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/pow...

In NO PLACE of the U.S. Constitution is the United States authorized to become involved, legislate, or otherwise interfere in the entirely PRIVATE matter of a citizen's medical care.
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Further to that is this, by the author if the U.S. Constitution:
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James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:

"With respect to the two words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them.

"To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.

"If the words obtained so readily a place in the "Articles of Confederation," and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted."

~ James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:n ~

“…[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.�

-James Madison

"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one...."

- James Madison, letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792.
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And there you have it: If the AUTHOR of the Constitution couldn't find ANY valid purchase to disburse federal monies for private well-being, then the current deceit is COMPLETELY without validity.

In NO PLACE of the U.S. Constitution is the United States authorized to become involved, legislate, or otherwise interfere in the entirely PRIVATE matter of a citizen's medical care.
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Further to that is this, by the author if the U.S. Constitution:
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James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:
"With respect to the two words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them.
"To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.
"If the words obtained so readily a place in the "Articles of Confederation," and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted."
~ James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:n ~
“…[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.”
-James Madison
"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one...."
- James Madison, letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792.
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And there you have it: If the AUTHOR of the Constitution couldn't find ANY valid purchase to disburse federal monies for private well-being, then the current deceit is COMPLETELY without validity.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

All sick people deserve affordable health care. And the distribution of wealth has gotten ridiculous. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/pow...

So then, you're a COMMUNOFASCIST?
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YOU WOULD STEAL MONEY FROM EVERYONE AT THE POINT OF A GOVERNMENT GUN?
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WHO DO >YOU< think you are, just dipping >YOUR< hands into other people's pockets and taking what >YOU< figure you need?
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YOU are NO BETTER than a street thug!
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FREAK!

Highlander wrote:

In NO PLACE of the U.S. Constitution is the United States authorized to become involved, legislate, or otherwise interfere in the entirely PRIVATE matter of a citizen's medical care.
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Further to that is this, by the author if the U.S. Constitution:
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James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:
"With respect to the two words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them.
"To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.
"If the words obtained so readily a place in the "Articles of Confederation," and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted."
~ James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:n ~
“…[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.�
-James Madison
"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one...."
- James Madison, letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792.
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And there you have it: If the AUTHOR of the Constitution couldn't find ANY valid purchase to disburse federal monies for private well-being, then the current deceit is COMPLETELY without validity.

Well then you should be able to get medicare, medicaid and VA hospitals declared unconstitutional. If the patients don't have you assasinated first.

Highlander wrote:

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So then, you're a COMMUNOFASCIST?
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YOU WOULD STEAL MONEY FROM EVERYONE AT THE POINT OF A GOVERNMENT GUN?
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WHO DO >YOU< think you are, just dipping >YOUR< hands into other people's pockets and taking what >YOU< figure you need?
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YOU are NO BETTER than a street thug!
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FREAK!

I have a job for you ......

Everytime someone is not covered by insurance and cannot afford insurance in our country, and has a treatable, but otherwise fatal disease, YOU get to be the guy who walks up and says, "Sorry sucka, you are going to DIE!!!"

When can you report for work?

Keep in mind, you yourself are one serious injury or illness away from being denied medical insurance, losing everything to pay for medical treatment only to live to pay off a mountain of debt.

That sure sounds like a good plan you got for yourself there, bucky!!

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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Well then you should be able to get medicare, medicaid and VA hospitals declared unconstitutional. If the patients don't have you assasinated first.

So then, you believe in theft?
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You believe in rape and robbery?
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You believe in the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO?
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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I have a job for you ......
Everytime someone is not covered by insurance and cannot afford insurance in our country, and has a treatable, but otherwise fatal disease, YOU get to be the guy who walks up and says, "Sorry sucka, you are going to DIE!!!"
When can you report for work?
Keep in mind, you yourself are one serious injury or illness away from being denied medical insurance, losing everything to pay for medical treatment only to live to pay off a mountain of debt.
That sure sounds like a good plan you got for yourself there, bucky!!

ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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Highlander wrote:

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So then, you believe in theft?
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You believe in rape and robbery?
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You believe in the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO?
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If a complete stranger is injured on the side of the road. I will help them. Even if I have to pay to do it. It is simply the right thing to do. Something I am certain you know nothing about.

Highlander wrote:

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ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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Yep!! People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.

Highlander wrote:

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So then, you believe in theft?
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You believe in rape and robbery?
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You believe in the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO?
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I didn't say I would do it. Nor did I entdorse it. I merely pointed out the current patients would likely act in their own best interests.

However, I certainly wouldn't blame them and would be happy to see them kick your sorry ass.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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I have a job for you ......
Everytime someone is not covered by insurance and cannot afford insurance in our country, and has a treatable, but otherwise fatal disease, YOU get to be the guy who walks up and says, "Sorry sucka, you are going to DIE!!!"
When can you report for work?
Keep in mind, you yourself are one serious injury or illness away from being denied medical insurance, losing everything to pay for medical treatment only to live to pay off a mountain of debt.
That sure sounds like a good plan you got for yourself there, bucky!!

You go, Oogah Boogah! I'm glad that someone is pointing out to the nay sayers their grave irresponsibility by putting their partisan ideology before the most basic needs of their own people.

The long-term economic prospects of failing to reform health care is more catastrophic than the current cost of it.

Chicago Joe wrote:

The long-term economic prospects of failing to reform health care is more catastrophic than the current cost of it.

The current health care system is nothing more than a bunch of "for-profit" death-panels comprised of insurance company executives.

I have trouble believing there won't be enough money available to pay for all of universal health care simply by taking insurance companies out of the mix and using the insurance premiums to pay for health care directly.

I'd like to see some numbers on that possiblility.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

All sick people deserve affordable health care. And the distribution of wealth has gotten ridiculous. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/pow...

That is your first problem - quoting the a friggin' class.

See, you live in a bubble at a college. You haven't had to join the rest of the world yet.

Get a life!

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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If a complete stranger is injured on the side of the road. I will help them. Even if I have to pay to do it. It is simply the right thing to do. Something I am certain you know nothing about.

ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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The current health care system is nothing more than a bunch of "for-profit" death-panels comprised of insurance company executives.

YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, DICKWEED!
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ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:

I have trouble believing there won't be enough money available to pay for all of universal health care simply by taking insurance companies out of the mix and using the insurance premiums to pay for health care directly.
I'd like to see some numbers on that possiblility.

YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, DICKWEED!
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ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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Devil Dog wrote:

<quoted text>That is your first problem - quoting the a friggin' class.
See, you live in a bubble at a college. You haven't had to join the rest of the world yet.
Get a life!

I've long since left college and graduate school and have many many years life experience, Sonny!

Highlander wrote:

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ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.

You are probably a trust fund baby that hopes to never work an honest day in his life.

Highlander wrote:

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YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, DICKWEED!
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ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
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You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
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Real soon now?
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<quoted text>
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, DICKWEED!
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ONCE AGAIN: WHERE, in the U.S. Constitution —ARTICLE, SECTION, PARAGRAPH/CLAUSE— DO >YOU< find ~any~ authority for the United States to get involved in =ANY= aspect of PRIVATE medical care?
.
You'll be getting back on that, won't you?
.
Real soon now?
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How many times to you need to read my answer?

People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.
People like you have to be FORCED to do the right thing. You won't do it on your own.

Try reading it real slow. Move your lips if you need to.