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tessie

London, KY

#1 May 28, 2011
i dont like this plan that hes got

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#2 Mar 3, 2012
yes, it is for the common good of our country.
local

Lexington, TN

#3 Mar 3, 2012
No health insurance is to expensive for a lot of people now when you force people to have insurance the companies are going to be out more money so your premiums will get even higher and your coverage will be less
TV MAN

United States

#4 Mar 3, 2012
local wrote:
No health insurance is to expensive for a lot of people now when you force people to have insurance the companies are going to be out more money so your premiums will get even higher and your coverage will be less
Stop being so naive. Mandates will create more revenue for insurance companys. Our current system have 50 million people paying nothing for their services. If we don't create mandates sooner then later it will be 60 million. Why pay if you can get it for free? Use your head and stop trading off wealth for this Houdini like plan the Republicans have. It's old hat, haven't you learned, the trickle don't trickle.
local

Lexington, TN

#6 Mar 3, 2012
Why do you think 50 million people pay nothing for their services it's because the can not afford to buy insurance the Obama plan is all about money cause more and more people can't afford healthcare and the insurance companies losing their money cause people can't pay the price for insurance so you want to make it mandatory to have insurance or face a fine your crazy you just wait and see if this does go in effect insurance premiums will skyrocket and people's benefits will be cut and copays will be higher
TV MAN

United States

#7 Mar 3, 2012
local wrote:
Why do you think 50 million people pay nothing for their services it's because the can not afford to buy insurance the Obama plan is all about money cause more and more people can't afford healthcare and the insurance companies losing their money cause people can't pay the price for insurance so you want to make it mandatory to have insurance or face a fine your crazy you just wait and see if this does go in effect insurance premiums will skyrocket and people's benefits will be cut and copays will be higher
You're merely speculating. Republicans have scared you with their doom and gloom myths. The studies have already been finished on the Obama plan. In fact it's already saving money for the tax payer. Premiums rise because of better and better technology. Studies on the unisured show 43% of the 50 million can afford insurance, yet choose not to buy it. Use your common sense. Why pay if it's free. Obama's plan is already started to work. Example: Over one million Medicare beneficiaries have already received rebate checks during the Donut Hole gap in coverage, helping them pay for necessary medications. Check this out Doomer: As of September 23, 2010 the health care reform’s Patients Bill of Rights will ensure that:

•Children under 19 cannot be denied health care for a pre-existing condition.
•Insurance companies cannot retroactively cancel policies when people get sick.
•Lifetime coverage limits are no longer allowed.
•Annual coverage limits are restricted.

A report released by HHS on Friday argues that individuals and families purchasing coverage through the exchanges in 2014 will save 14 percent to 20 percent over what coverage would cost them if the law had never been enacted. These savings come from market reforms and regulations — they do not include the tax credits that will effectively reduce premiums for some individuals by more than half.
The report points to “preliminary evidence” that provisions of the Affordable Care Act already in place will contribute to rate increases in 2011 that are lower than in previous years. State premium rate reviews have reined in premium hikes in states including Connecticut and California, and HHS says the new Medical Loss Ratio requirements will “likely lead to rebates” in 2012 for an estimated 5 million insurance customers. The report says early retirees from more than 5,000 businesses and unions are having their premiums reduced through the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program. If you don't want to believe, it's because you don't like Obama. Get a life speculator.
local

Lexington, TN

#8 Mar 3, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>You're merely speculating. Republicans have scared you with their doom and gloom myths. The studies have already been finished on the Obama plan. In fact it's already saving money for the tax payer. Premiums rise because of better and better technology. Studies on the unisured show 43% of the 50 million can afford insurance, yet choose not to buy it. Use your common sense. Why pay if it's free. Obama's plan is already started to work. Example: Over one million Medicare beneficiaries have already received rebate checks during the Donut Hole gap in coverage, helping them pay for necessary medications. Check this out Doomer: As of September 23, 2010 the health care reformÂ’s Patients Bill of Rights will ensure that:

•Children under 19 cannot be denied health care for a pre-existing condition.
•Insurance companies cannot retroactively cancel policies when people get sick.
•Lifetime coverage limits are no longer allowed.
•Annual coverage limits are restricted.

A report released by HHS on Friday argues that individuals and families purchasing coverage through the exchanges in 2014 will save 14 percent to 20 percent over what coverage would cost them if the law had never been enacted. These savings come from market reforms and regulations — they do not include the tax credits that will effectively reduce premiums for some individuals by more than half.
The report points to “preliminary evidence” that provisions of the Affordable Care Act already in place will contribute to rate increases in 2011 that are lower than in previous years. State premium rate reviews have reined in premium hikes in states including Connecticut and California, and HHS says the new Medical Loss Ratio requirements will “likely lead to rebates” in 2012 for an estimated 5 million insurance customers. The report says early retirees from more than 5,000 businesses and unions are having their premiums reduced through the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program. If you don't want to believe, it's because you don't like Obama. Get a life speculator.
I got a life I live in reality where I live the average person makes 3 to 4 hundred a week gross you tell me just how can they pay for insurance when it costs nearly 50 percent of their earnings people on Medicare hardly ever get a cost of living raise when they do their insurance goes up more than the raise they got now what is your answer for tv man
TV MAN

United States

#9 Mar 3, 2012
local wrote:
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I got a life I live in reality where I live the average person makes 3 to 4 hundred a week gross you tell me just how can they pay for insurance when it costs nearly 50 percent of their earnings people on Medicare hardly ever get a cost of living raise when they do their insurance goes up more than the raise they got now what is your answer for tv man
Excuses Excuses. That's like saying you can't pay rent, so you live outside. Insurance has all kind of deductables with lower and lower premiums. You can't afford not to have insurance. Four days in ICU will cost you more then 80,000 dollars. If you don't have much money you get what you can. Just like renting or owning property. Get only what you can afford. My wife has insurance for herself at 70 dollars a month with a 4,000 dollar decutable. It's United Health Care. Guess what goofy, she can pay out the 4,000 over a period of time with small payments. however she has great service from the doctors because they know they'll get paid. How would you like to work for free.
E

Winnsboro, SC

#10 Mar 3, 2012
Government should never "mandate" you to purchase anything. It's called taking control of your life and using your money. People need to realize that "sharing the wealth" and "wealth distribution" is just fancy terminology for communism
local

Lexington, TN

#11 Mar 3, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Excuses Excuses. That's like saying you can't pay rent, so you live outside. Insurance has all kind of deductables with lower and lower premiums. You can't afford not to have insurance. Four days in ICU will cost you more then 80,000 dollars. If you don't have much money you get what you can. Just like renting or owning property. Get only what you can afford. My wife has insurance for herself at 70 dollars a month with a 4,000 dollar decutable. It's United Health Care. Guess what goofy, she can pay out the 4,000 over a period of time with small payments. however she has great service from the doctors because they know they'll get paid. How would you like to work for free.
if a family has rent or a mortgage payment then monthly utilities plus a vehicle payment then you still have to eat you can not pay 160 to 180 dollars a week for insurance through your employer and I have never heard of a companies insurance offering higher deductibles for a lower premium other than car insurance and where ever charged you 80thousand dollars for 4 days in icu just ripped you off it's not that expensive and who said anything about working for free
local

Lexington, TN

#12 Mar 3, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Excuses Excuses. That's like saying you can't pay rent, so you live outside. Insurance has all kind of deductables with lower and lower premiums. You can't afford not to have insurance. Four days in ICU will cost you more then 80,000 dollars. If you don't have much money you get what you can. Just like renting or owning property. Get only what you can afford. My wife has insurance for herself at 70 dollars a month with a 4,000 dollar decutable. It's United Health Care. Guess what goofy, she can pay out the 4,000 over a period of time with small payments. however she has great service from the doctors because they know they'll get paid. How would you like to work for free.
I can see why your wife gets great service from the doctors your united health care is a form of tenncare once you met your deductible the doctors can charge whatever they want and tenncare will pay it this is why every bodies insurance is so high dummy
tku

Chatsworth, GA

#13 Mar 3, 2012
I am unemployed by no reason of my own. The place closed. I was paying 400 a month for insurance but could longer do it. Yes, I do look for a job all the time. Could you please tell me tv man howto go about getting United Healthcare? I wouldn't mind the high deductible. Thank you for any info you can help me with.
local

Lexington, TN

#14 Mar 3, 2012
If you have kids just go to the department of human services fill out the application you kids probably could get it
TV MAN

United States

#15 Mar 4, 2012
tku wrote:
I am unemployed by no reason of my own. The place closed. I was paying 400 a month for insurance but could longer do it. Yes, I do look for a job all the time. Could you please tell me tv man howto go about getting United Healthcare? I wouldn't mind the high deductible. Thank you for any info you can help me with.
When you were working you had a group plan. This group plan will write anyone on the job even with pre-existing conditions. They may ask a few questions and exclude pre-conditions, however you'll still have insurance. As a non-working indivdual you'll need to apply for a indivdual policy. This is more difficult, because they'll ask more questions. If you don't have a pre-existing condition it's simple. Ask for Catastrophic insurance. These policys have deductables any where from 2,000 to 10,000. After the deductables are meant, they'll pay 100%. Don't worry about deductables it's all negotiable. Hospitals and doctors have no choice but to take what you have. You can pay in monthly payments. However, the bulk is paid by your insurance company. The card gets gets you in the best hospitals. Try Blue Cross and Blue Shield, they've been waving all the questions. Don't give up.
TV MAN

United States

#16 Mar 4, 2012
local wrote:
<quoted text>
if a family has rent or a mortgage payment then monthly utilities plus a vehicle payment then you still have to eat you can not pay 160 to 180 dollars a week for insurance through your employer and I have never heard of a companies insurance offering higher deductibles for a lower premium other than car insurance and where ever charged you 80thousand dollars for 4 days in icu just ripped you off it's not that expensive and who said anything about working for free
Figure it out. Cut back somewhere. You can't afford to be without insurance. Don't tell me what ICU can cost, I know I've been there. Your quotes on insurance are crazy, or your employer hasn't done their homework. There's all kind of high deductable insurance for much less. It's called catastrophic insurance. Stop your whining and do your homwwork.
TV MAN

United States

#17 Mar 4, 2012
local wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see why your wife gets great service from the doctors your united health care is a form of tenncare once you met your deductible the doctors can charge whatever they want and tenncare will pay it this is why every bodies insurance is so high dummy
You're not very well informed. United Care and tenncare will only pay reasonable and customary costs. It's called Catastrophic Insurance. Check this out goofy:Catastrophic Health Ins | AffordableHealthCare.us.com
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Fast Catastrophic Health Insurance A Family of 4 Protected for $149/Mo
TV MAN

United States

#18 Mar 4, 2012
local wrote:
If you have kids just go to the department of human services fill out the application you kids probably could get it
Who do you think pays for that? Taxpayers. You knock Obama's plan because it protects the tax payer, and the deductables of the insured. Stop being a free loader on the backs of tax payers. Go get insurance. If you can't, and you can prove it, Obama's plan will cover your family with vouchers. Most important Obama's plan will not allow insurance companys to refuse pre-conditioned people. Obama's plan will protect the sick.
local

Lexington, TN

#19 Mar 4, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Figure it out. Cut back somewhere. You can't afford to be without insurance. Don't tell me what ICU can cost, I know I've been there. Your quotes on insurance are crazy, or your employer hasn't done their homework. There's all kind of high deductable insurance for much less. It's called catastrophic insurance. Stop your whining and do your homwwork.
I know what icu costs I have had two kids in it is not 20 thousand dollars a day a pediatric icu is more expensive than one for adults when my lids were there it cost just over 3 thousand a day if you go buy your insurance yourself yes you can get different deductibles and premiums but an employers insurance does not do that and I'm not whining I voiced my opinion on this topic you are the one who singled me out I don't have homework to do I have experienced it first hand
TV MAN

United States

#20 Mar 4, 2012
E wrote:
Government should never "mandate" you to purchase anything. It's called taking control of your life and using your money. People need to realize that "sharing the wealth" and "wealth distribution" is just fancy terminology for communism
Government protects tax payers. Fifty million people are are on the take, including the poor. It's time everyone pays something. Free health care isn't possible. You'll never stop takers unless we make law. If you're already paying don't complain. Nothing will change for you. If you have insurance it's much cheaper then using your own money. Do your homework and get the right plan.
local

Lexington, TN

#21 Mar 4, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Who do you think pays for that? Taxpayers. You knock Obama's plan because it protects the tax payer, and the deductables of the insured. Stop being a free loader on the backs of tax payers. Go get insurance. If you can't, and you can prove it, Obama's plan will cover your family with vouchers. Most important Obama's plan will not allow insurance companys to refuse pre-conditioned people. Obama's plan will protect the sick.
I am not a freeloader I have insurance and a insurance will not refuse to cover you they only put a prexisting condition clause on your policy for a year

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