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“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”
Level 2
Since: May 08
Orlando
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No one should be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
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Joe
Winter Park, FL
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We don't need an insurance exchange or any other federal government intrusion. This is just a way to get their foot in the door for single payer.
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Diogenes
Orlando, FL
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It's socialism no matter how you look at it. And socialism is the fist step to the public losing control of their government.
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Joe
Winter Park, FL
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Jim Trebowski wrote: No one should be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. That could be handled with a simple piece of legislation. It doesn't require an "insurance exchange" and a complete government takeover of the entire system.
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Crash
Austin, TX
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Lets look at the government track record over thing the government has taken over: 1. Education: The government took over the education from the responsibility of the states and made it federal. Since then our education levels have been plummenting. 2. Medicare: Is financially broke. 3. Medicade: Is financially broke. 4. Social Security: The biggest lie in order to pay off the bankers and the interest of FDR's new deal. And, it is financially broke. 5. Cash for clunkers: We will give people $4500 for a car that is not worht $4500 so they can buy a new car and go into debt on a car that they couldn't afford before hand. Money is lost, dealerships are not getting paid. The system is financially broke. Now they want to run a government healthcare plan in an industry the government already controls through liscensing, permits, and regulations. I think not.
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Pandora
Orlando, FL
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As a small businessman, I sat down and did some math. The insurance companies have done too much cherry picking and taken advantage of us. Not fond of Obamacare, but it will save me money.
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Joe
Winter Park, FL
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Pandora wrote: As a small businessman, I sat down and did some math. The insurance companies have done too much cherry picking and taken advantage of us. Not fond of Obamacare, but it will save me money. Dream on. You'll pay higher premiums for worse care and higher taxes too.
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Crash
Austin, TX
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Pandora wrote: As a small businessman, I sat down and did some math. The insurance companies have done too much cherry picking and taken advantage of us. Not fond of Obamacare, but it will save me money. Yes they have. But nobody ever asks the question of "why". That is because the government and interstate commission has reduced the amount of supply within each state by restricting the interstate purchasing of insurance. Being the fact you own a business in Fl. You can not buy insurance from a company in Ny, Ga, Va, etc... As a business owner you can see that the government is restricting the supply of health insurance coverage. And when you restrict the supply of goods and/or services, it increases the cost. People as a whole believe that the government then must come in and fix the problem, but, as Ronald Reagan said "government is the problem". The government has created this problem as they do with every problem. Then they want the people to approve them to take more power to fix a problem they created.
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Amos Brown
Indianapolis, IN
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Jim Trebowski wrote: No one should be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Hey Jimmy. Should insurance companies also be forced to sell fire insurance to someone whose house is already burning?
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Crash
Austin, TX
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Jim Trebowski wrote: No one should be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Ethically, you are correct. But ethics are not what is up for debate. Here is a comparison for you. If you were to manage a company or own a company. You get an applicant that you know is not going last longer than 6 months or possibly longer for one reason or another. Are you going ot hire that person and put in the money to invest in the abilities of the individual that you know you are going to loose anywyays? Absolutely not. Now, with a big pre-exsisting problem, should an insurance company take them as a customer when they know the output in money is going to be greater than their input? Not going to happen. Is it wrong ethically? Yes, but, a company does not provide a service or goods without a profit margin. If you want to avoid the profit, look for a non-profit that can cover the individual. Your health insurance requirement is a personal responsibility to obtain. The government is not required to give it to you. Now in 1948 the government passed an amendment to the constitution that quality healthcare is a right. And that is correct. But, insurance for that healthcare is a personal responsibility.
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Amos Brown
Indianapolis, IN
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Crash wrote: <quoted text>
Ethically, you are correct. But ethics are not what is up for debate. Here is a comparison for you. If you were to manage a company or own a company. You get an applicant that you know is not going last longer than 6 months or possibly longer for one reason or another. Are you going ot hire that person and put in the money to invest in the abilities of the individual that you know you are going to loose anywyays? Absolutely not. Now, with a big pre-exsisting problem, should an insurance company take them as a customer when they know the output in money is going to be greater than their input? Not going to happen. Is it wrong ethically? Yes, but, a company does not provide a service or goods without a profit margin. If you want to avoid the profit, look for a non-profit that can cover the individual. Your health insurance requirement is a personal responsibility to obtain. The government is not required to give it to you.
Now in 1948 the government passed an amendment to the constitution that quality healthcare is a right. And that is correct. But, insurance for that healthcare is a personal responsibility. No amendments to the Constitution were made between 1933 and 1951 nor does any amendment make any mention of quality health care much less its being a right.
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Crash
Austin, TX
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Amos Brown wrote: <quoted text>
No amendments to the Constitution were made between 1933 and 1951 nor does any amendment make any mention of quality health care much less its being a right. I apologize, it is not an amendment, but, it is a UN treaty signed by the US. Which means we have to follow the treaty we signed. The US is a signatory on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights treaty from 1948. This is article 25 of that treaty: Article 25. *(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. *(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection. So it goes to show that Healthcare is a right. Not health insurance for that said health care.
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Pandora
Orlando, FL
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Joe wrote: <quoted text>
Dream on. You'll pay higher premiums for worse care and higher taxes too. No way. I am very successful in business because I can add and subtract. I don't let the spin doctors think for me. Try doing some research and math. I prefer NOT to have a public option. The government never gets it right. However, we have to have reform now. Too bad there has not been a real bipartisan bill. Washington is using health care as a political football. We will all pay. BOTH PARTIES!!!!
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“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”
Since: Sep 08
Gotham City
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Diogenes wrote: It's socialism no matter how you look at it. And socialism is the fist step to the public losing control of their government. The Irony and Stupidity of your statement!!! Our GOVERNMENT.... is "By the People, For the People." YOU!!! Have the power to run for office, lobby for bills, AND vote people in and out of office. You are giving YOUR power and YOUR responsibility away to private corporations to control YOUR life at a price..... Wake Up! Corporations spend millions on lobbyist to get money spent on the health of their business. The people need to lobby now so that we have money spent on OUR PERSONAL health.... Fight for your RIGHT to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS!!! Without the confidence that you will be taken care of in an emergency, there is no real security to properly enjoy what you have.
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“I'm a Vet and I vote for Vets”
Since: Jun 07
Orlando
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The Government cannot run a car rebate program how are they going to run universal health care. Medicare Bankrupt, SSA, Bankrupt Post Office Bankrupt. Do you see a pattern?
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“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”
Since: Sep 08
Gotham City
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bdc0765 wrote: The Government cannot run a car rebate program how are they going to run universal health care. Medicare Bankrupt, SSA, Bankrupt Post Office Bankrupt. Do you see a pattern? Yeah. The Government can't even run a military right too!!!! Do you see a pattern? PS..... I was being sarcastic. Running a "Bankrupt" organization, is a good thing for the Government. They are NOT SUPPOSED to be profiting from us. They profit enough from our taxes... Think about it.
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Unbelievable
Bladensburg, MD
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Even though I do agree that reform needs to happen I DO NOT agree that a public option is the answer. It needs to stay in the private sector with government regulations. Opening up availability across state lines would be a great start.
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Matt
Palm Coast, FL
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If you're actually intelligent enough to read and understand the bill, then you'd understand how right now we're paying for people who are irresponsible and don't carry insurance. This bill will stop us from paying for lazy people failing to get their own insurance.
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“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”
Since: Sep 08
Gotham City
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Unbelievable wrote: Even though I do agree that reform needs to happen I DO NOT agree that a public option is the answer. It needs to stay in the private sector with government regulations. Opening up availability across state lines would be a great start. You idiots are branwashed into beliving VERY BAD ideas are good for you.... STOP AND THINK!!! If you "open up availability" (just listen to that marketing language there) across state lines..... You are essentially REMOVING the Sovereignty of States to regulate business in their own state! That would be awful for the US Consumer, and would be a horrible step in the completely opposite direction.... But your "Conservative Radio Host" tell you that it is good for you because it would allow for more competition....... WRONG. It would squash all competition creating monopolies out of the few and the powerful who are lobbing for such laws to be DE-REGULATED. When has De-Regulation or the Private Sector actually done ANYTHING good?????? Please name something. I bet I can point out how the Fed Government was involved. You idiots are so naive and brainwashed by international bankers who don't care about our country!!! Most of them who are on these radio programs and fund them, don't even live in the USA!!!!
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Matt
Palm Coast, FL
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Danny_Livewire wrote: <quoted text>
You idiots are branwashed into beliving VERY BAD ideas are good for you.... STOP AND THINK!!!
If you "open up availability" (just listen to that marketing language there) across state lines..... You are essentially REMOVING the Sovereignty of States to regulate business in their own state!
That would be awful for the US Consumer, and would be a horrible step in the completely opposite direction....
But your "Conservative Radio Host" tell you that it is good for you because it would allow for more competition....... WRONG. It would squash all competition creating monopolies out of the few and the powerful who are lobbing for such laws to be DE-REGULATED.
When has De-Regulation or the Private Sector actually done ANYTHING good??????
Please name something.
I bet I can point out how the Fed Government was involved.
You idiots are so naive and brainwashed by international bankers who don't care about our country!!!
Most of them who are on these radio programs and fund them, don't even live in the USA!!!! Finally someone who understands.
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