Health Care Debate - Livermore, CA

tell the government to stay out of my bank account, my body, my finances, my business, and my speech. we are NOT a socialist country. go move to one if you want it.

The Springtown Dude wrote:

<quoted text>After all the calls I have been getting about things that people are posting about me it would be safe to say that a lot of people spend a lot of time on topix. Anon is not afraid to educate people on what is really going on in are part of the world

We have no voice in the main stream media.It is a means to an end.

Sometimes I don't agree with some of the things that ANON says, he is absolutely correct in this exchange. There is no way to take a publicly traded company and turn it into a non profit without adequate payments to the shareholders for fair market value. I for one would be pissed if a company that i invested in was to be turned non profit. The shares would all become worthless and in that fact, all the money invested by me would be lost/stolen. The fact that most people don't choose to properly educate themselves on such important issues completely baffles me. I by far am no expert on this, but I do know as most of America does that this plan is solely a government takeover of 1/6 of the American economy. And as we all know, although some may choose to be ignorant of the facts, government has yet to produce a program that is efficient or sustainable. For all you bleeding hearts out there, if you want to provide for everyone else, that's your business, but for those that are already strapped, this will end up being the straw that breaks the camel's back.

LLL wrote:

Sometimes I don't agree with some of the things that ANON says, he is absolutely correct in this exchange. There is no way to take a publicly traded company and turn it into a non profit without adequate payments to the shareholders for fair market value. I for one would be pissed if a company that i invested in was to be turned non profit. The shares would all become worthless and in that fact, all the money invested by me would be lost/stolen. The fact that most people don't choose to properly educate themselves on such important issues completely baffles me. I by far am no expert on this, but I do know as most of America does that this plan is solely a government takeover of 1/6 of the American economy. And as we all know, although some may choose to be ignorant of the facts, government has yet to produce a program that is efficient or sustainable. For all you bleeding hearts out there, if you want to provide for everyone else, that's your business, but for those that are already strapped, this will end up being the straw that breaks the camel's back.

And those wishing to belly up to the trough will find it empty.

LLL wrote:

Sometimes I don't agree with some of the things that ANON says, he is absolutely correct in this exchange. There is no way to take a publicly traded company and turn it into a non profit without adequate payments to the shareholders for fair market value. I for one would be pissed if a company that i invested in was to be turned non profit. The shares would all become worthless and in that fact, all the money invested by me would be lost/stolen. The fact that most people don't choose to properly educate themselves on such important issues completely baffles me. I by far am no expert on this, but I do know as most of America does that this plan is solely a government takeover of 1/6 of the American economy. And as we all know, although some may choose to be ignorant of the facts, government has yet to produce a program that is efficient or sustainable. For all you bleeding hearts out there, if you want to provide for everyone else, that's your business, but for those that are already strapped, this will end up being the straw that breaks the camel's back.

The ignorance/stupidity of the average person out there is astounding.

During Presidential election a couple years ago, Howard Stern went to traditionally Democratic and traditionally Republican areas, and asked them questions like "What do you think of John McCain wanting to get out of Iraq as soon as possible?" and "What do you think of Barack Obama being against health care reform?"

Overwhelmingly the responses were something to the effect of "oh yeah, I totally agree with him, that's why I'm voting for him"

"The ignorance/stupidity of the average person out there is astounding."
Ignorance and stupidity are not the same.The ignorance is due media monopoly.You get your information from what is readily available.they have limited the discussion to two questions never touching at the meat of the issue.6 HUGE corp own all of the media ,tv radio,magazines,publishers,.Wh ile we are talked to death with the talking heads somehow they never get around to asking we the people what we want.Famous quotes from Hitler
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
“How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

Obama has now traded amnesty for health care votes, that's how desperate that pathetic traitorous commie is. I hope someone offs him and soon, as a lesson to all treasonous SOBs not to screw over the American people.

Read about the treasonous backroom dealings here: might want to have your vomit bag handy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_immigration

Everyone deserves the care they need.

veritas wrote:

"The ignorance/stupidity of the average person out there is astounding."
Ignorance and stupidity are not the same.The ignorance is due media monopoly.You get your information from what is readily available.they have limited the discussion to two questions never touching at the meat of the issue.6 HUGE corp own all of the media ,tv radio,magazines,publishers,.Wh ile we are talked to death with the talking heads somehow they never get around to asking we the people what we want.Famous quotes from Hitler
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
“How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.”
“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

It's you that's being fooled, not me. I pay very little attention to the opinons of either side. I only follow results, and postive trends. Results don't lie. You're losing based on the fact you expect fairness. There is no fairness. To expect it, is stupid, like you. Stop the Hitler slang, it's not popular or vogue anymore. You're a day late and a dollar short. Go back to your Bunker.