Gun Control Debate - Moberly, MO

The Earl of Hump wrote:

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Lighten up Francis!

The Earl of Hump wrote:

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Lighten up Francis!

Law wrote:

<quoted text>What's that you say, Oxburger.

cards252 wrote:

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Hey, look at this guy!

Bear wrote:

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Yeah, that happens so often. More likely scenario is I'm at a gas station when a robbery goes down, rather than just shut up and get through the situation, Billy Bob CCW decides his untrained .45 wielding butt is going to be a freaking hero, but...shooting a person in a pressure situation is a bit different than shooting a squirrel off your front porch, so Billy Bob shoots the cashier, then bullets are flying all over and people get hurt over what money is in their pockets and whatever was in the cash drawer. No thanks...as Johnny Cash sang "Don't take your guns to town.."

Sucks wrote:

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Actually, during the CCW class you are taught that you can be held liable if this situation insures as you describe. There is a very fine line one has to straddle to legally use a firearm. When you pull your gun, there only one step left. I mean once a bullet is fired there is no turning back. I have a CCW permit and welcome all responsible citizens to get it as well. It's funny, I am only assuming here. But I bet if you were at a gas station and saw some cracked out fella was robbin the place and shot the cashier. You would turn coat in a heartbeat if you or your buddy had a firearm. Same as if you had to watch a loved one get raped and murdered. You liberals are all the same, want the best of both worlds.

Bear wrote:

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You know what they say about assumption right? In those situations if I had the means to stop the problem I would do so, in the case of my family I would use whatever weapon of opportunity to stop any action against them. But I forgot that since I disagree with you on one point it must make me a skirt wearing pansy. I primarily vote republican, and I am a veteran and a VFW member. I've been in harms way and I can tell you that even some of the best trained people sometimes do some real dumb stuff when big situations come up. The danger in people having guns, is that there are very few instances where they are going to remember the minimal amount of training they get when it's time to use deadly force. That's my primary issue with CCW, and with many of the assumed freedoms associated with the 2nd amendment. Why is Trayvon Martin dead? He's dead because some dumbass with a gun shot an unarmed teenager walking down the street. Was he killed in a drug deal, a robbery..no. Joe the plumber shot him and then claimed he was scared. The British aren't coming anymore, and if you fear our government, vote.

Bear wrote:

Rest in peace Trayvon.

Bear wrote:

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I think what he's getting at is that that provision in the constitution was intended for the formation of a militia, using muzzle loading weapons of limited range. What has changed, is the number of people, the technology of guns, the formation of municipal police and the 911 system. Not many people live in the wild frontier now, and generally the gun loving folks who are also "anty-gubbermint" are looked upon as nutjobs. If you morons want to play with guns so bad, sack up and join the army.

Bear wrote:

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You know what they say about assumption right? In those situations if I had the means to stop the problem I would do so, in the case of my family I would use whatever weapon of opportunity to stop any action against them. But I forgot that since I disagree with you on one point it must make me a skirt wearing pansy. I primarily vote republican, and I am a veteran and a VFW member. I've been in harms way and I can tell you that even some of the best trained people sometimes do some real dumb stuff when big situations come up. The danger in people having guns, is that there are very few instances where they are going to remember the minimal amount of training they get when it's time to use deadly force. That's my primary issue with CCW, and with many of the assumed freedoms associated with the 2nd amendment. Why is Trayvon Martin dead? He's dead because some dumbass with a gun shot an unarmed teenager walking down the street. Was he killed in a drug deal, a robbery..no. Joe the plumber shot him and then claimed he was scared. The British aren't coming anymore, and if you fear our government, vote.