Gay Marriage Debate - Russell Springs, KY

uktena wrote:

<quoted text>harlotry and prostitution are often associated with idolatry and temple prostitution.
what most christian don't realize is that they are committing idolatry; which is covered constantly throughout the old and new testament.

i am anxious to know what you mean when you say Christians are comitting idolatry... how so?

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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UH NO, you atheists had religion and prayer removed from schools and business thru years of complaining and screaming discrimination remember?

Oh B.S. You can pull out your bible and read it anywhere you want to read it. You can openly pray anywhere...in a school or at a business. Just because it isn't organized does not mean that it is not there or doesn't happen.
I am going to tell you this one last time. I am not an atheist. If you continue to call me an atheist then you cannot complain when people call you things that you do not like. Last time...I am not atheist. I am not a christian. You whine and tattletale when people 'insult' you but it's perfectly fine when you do it to others. As I keep saying...you are a hypocrite.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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you are the one who posted and brought up Deut 22.

BS. You don't even know who i am.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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we have FREE WILL .......
God tells you to CHOOSE whom you will serve.

Exactly. We have free will and God tells us to choose who we serve. Not everyone chooses to serve and no man can force someone to do so.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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yes i see it as immorality because GOD see's it as immorality.
when He tells you clearly and plainly
YOU SHALL NOT LIE WITH A MALE AS YOU WOULD LIE WITH A WOMAN, IT IS AN ABOMINATION. Lev

I see you're a cafeteria Christian; you pick and choose which verses to live by. Stop quoting the OT because it is the OLD LAW. I'm sure you don't follow all the other laws of the OT so stick to quoting the NT.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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please show me some 'tangible' evidence of your being judged at the "GATES". where do you get your knowledge of what is suppose to be and how it will be? yourself?

if you wait til you die, you won't stand at a gate, you will stand at the great judgement.

Make up your mind. Are you going to judge me for discussing judgement at the gates or are you claiming that we will be judged at the gates? Show me *your* tangible evidence.

And you still haven't responded to my question about whether or not you would want to have laws made based on someone else's religion that would directly affect you? Because that is what you're suggesting should happen to other people.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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i am anxious to know what you mean when you say Christians are comitting idolatry... how so?

deuteronomy ch4

no similitude = no form

same thing in romans ch 1:21-25 regarding the worshiping of formed things, or created things.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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UH NO, you atheists had religion and prayer removed from schools and business thru years of complaining and screaming discrimination remember?

No it was removed because it was an unconstitutional government endorsement of a particular religion which violated the the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion for ALL citizens, to just those of the majority religion.

Learn history and quit lying, you uneducated moron.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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sorry but the moral code that SUPERCEEDS your man made philosphies (Hammurbi) LOL was the 10 commandemnts given to Moses by God.
nothing superceeds Genesis.
IN THE BEGINING GOD CREATED......
as for IF everyone believed in the same God then........ is a absurd and ridiculous statment........because OF COURSE not everyone is going to believe in God.
we have FREE WILL .......
and the ancient scriptures tell you many will be on the broad path that leads to distruction but FEW will find the narrow path (truth) that leads to everlasting life.
God tells you to CHOOSE whom you will serve.

Your personal religious beliefs don't supersede the US constitution and neither do your religiously derived standards of morality. Deal with it; if that's a burden to you, move to a theocracy.

Lily the aborter wrote:

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Oh B.S. You can pull out your bible and read it anywhere you want to read it. You can openly pray anywhere...in a school or at a business. Just because it isn't organized does not mean that it is not there or doesn't happen.
I am going to tell you this one last time. I am not an atheist. If you continue to call me an atheist then you cannot complain when people call you things that you do not like. Last time...I am not atheist. I am not a christian. You whine and tattletale when people 'insult' you but it's perfectly fine when you do it to others. As I keep saying...you are a hypocrite.

you must be VERY young.

Madlyn Murray O'Hare the queen bee of the Atheists, HAD prayer removed from the schools.
thats a fact.

yes a student can pray to him or herself. but no longer can a class pray as one body like they use to.

now let me ask you ONE question.
you are peeved because i refer to you as an atheistic person...
based on the FACT you deny the Creator God.
you deny the truth of His written word.
you deny all the history and prophecy the bible has proven out over time
and you deny the archaeology evidences that SUPPORT the scriptures as truth.

and in the word of God it tells me that anyone who opperates their life OUTSIDE the law and will of God is a child of the world, a child of satan and not 'OF' God.
so you tell me, who should i trust more
YOU or GOD?

if He says in His word that people who reject Him and His laws and satatues are truth, are His enemy and not 'OF' Him, then don't you think HE WOULD KNOW better than you or I who is an atheist in their heart when it comes to HIS view point of our hearts intent?

get over it wrote:

<quoted text> BS. You don't even know who i am.

i said,
you are the one who first brought up Deut 22
and you replied
oh bs you don't even know who i am

would you please explain how your reply has ANYthing at all to do with what i said?

i don't WANT to know you.
thats not the purpose of discussing issues on topix.

Dont judge wrote:

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Exactly. We have free will and God tells us to choose who we serve. Not everyone chooses to serve and no man can force someone to do so.

I totally agree

so who is 'forcing' you to do anything you don't want to do?

Dont judge wrote:

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I see you're a cafeteria Christian; you pick and choose which verses to live by. Stop quoting the OT because it is the OLD LAW. I'm sure you don't follow all the other laws of the OT so stick to quoting the NT.

I see you like to ASSUME things you have no knowledge of.

i don't pick and choose what i live by.
EVERY jot and tittle in the bible from Gen to Revelations is equally important.

and to be taken serious because it ALL serves God's purpose.

how about you stop hunting excuses here.....

Dont judge wrote:

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Make up your mind. Are you going to judge me for discussing judgement at the gates or are you claiming that we will be judged at the gates? Show me *your* tangible evidence.
And you still haven't responded to my question about whether or not you would want to have laws made based on someone else's religion that would directly affect you? Because that is what you're suggesting should happen to other people.

I sent you scripture to back up what i said about the judgement.
would help a great deal if you would actually read what send.

the bible says it is appointed unto all men to die once and then the judgement.

Hebrews 9:27

Matthew 7:13 Jesus tells you about the wide gate and the narrow gate.

Matthew 7:23 Jesus tells us that one of two things will be said to us at the judgment.
welcome my good and faithful servant
or
depart from me you worker of iniquity i never knew you.

it is not about 'religion' it is about personal relationship.

in the begining GOD structured mankind and society upon HIS law
and it was a personal relationship between GOD and man
as time progressed forward, man grew more rebellous and wicked.
and you see where we are today.

As in the days of Noah so shall it be again ....

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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I see you like to ASSUME things you have no knowledge of.
i don't pick and choose what i live by.
EVERY jot and tittle in the bible from Gen to Revelations is equally important.
and to be taken serious because it ALL serves God's purpose.
how about you stop hunting excuses here.....

Quit lying; you do pick and choose what laws you live by. We've been through this already and you've admitted you don't follow all 613 mitzvot of Hebrew scripture. Calling them "important' is not the same as abiding by them.

Passing Through wrote:

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No it was removed because it was an unconstitutional government endorsement of a particular religion which violated the the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion for ALL citizens, to just those of the majority religion.
Learn history and quit lying, you uneducated moron.

LOL, wow, are you ever deceived.

i lived it.
i was in school during that time.
you probley were not even born yet.

it was removed because GOD HATERS HAVE THEIR AGENDA.

how can you be so BLIND?

removing anything that has to do with GOD or the bible or prayer is a DEMONIC move.

fact is fact.

Passing Through wrote:

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Your personal religious beliefs don't supersede the US constitution and neither do your religiously derived standards of morality. Deal with it; if that's a burden to you, move to a theocracy.

my religious beliefs and exercise of it, ARE PROTECTED under the constitution. so you deal with that.

your right to turn a moral wrong into a legal right isn't even mentioned in the federal constitution.
and it will NEVER make it right either.

the fact GOD always has had, and always will have the last word is what puts YOU on the loosing side.

Passing Through wrote:

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Quit lying; you do pick and choose what laws you live by. We've been through this already and you've admitted you don't follow all 613 mitzvot of Hebrew scripture. Calling them "important' is not the same as abiding by them.

you quit lying... the 613 Mitzvots are not all OT laws, some have been added by jews from their HUMAN perspective.

remember your pal Golem, who was a homosexual, and tried to make everyone think he was 'right' with GOD? and one of those mitzvot laws FORBIDDED samesex.

fact is, i respect EVERY SINGLE OT law.......and do my best to adhere to the statutes of the OT
but i also have enough knowledge and sence to KNOW i am under the New covenant of God's GRACE granted to me thru the redeptive power of His Son Christ who paid my sin debt on the cross...as He paid yours to.

when it comes to food, hygene, celebrating OT holy days, the sabbath, sexual purity, i don't blaspheme God, or curse.......
i strive to abide in the laws of God.

and FYI....... in your mitzvot list there was sacrifices on the alters of the temple......show me one jew today who sacrifices
animals on any alters?

we don't do that since Christ made the last sacrifice ever required by God.

otherwise your jews would still be practicing it.
and they do not.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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my religious beliefs and exercise of it, ARE PROTECTED under the constitution. so you deal with that.
your right to turn a moral wrong into a legal right isn't even mentioned in the federal constitution.
and it will NEVER make it right either.
the fact GOD always has had, and always will have the last word is what puts YOU on the loosing side.

the constitution protects the right of "everyone" and not just the majority, or minority. that is why we are a repulic and not a theocracy.

Pattiecake58 wrote:

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God gets to send messengers to cross your path in life.
what you do with the truth is YOUR decision.

then why are directly trying to interfere with someone else's direct choice that has no direct consequences to you?

have you not heard, thou shalt not covet what is they neighbor's?