Gay Marriage Debate - Russell Springs, KY

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starbright

United States

#10324 Jun 19, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
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do you ever listen? or do you just run your mouth 24/7 while your brain is on pause?
how many times must you be told something before you understand it?
you can wallow in what ever sick perversions you want to in the privacy of your home.
i don't care
NO ONE cares
but when you walk up and down streets naked or half naked in parades shouting obcentites into camars about 'gayism' and making wild threats to those who oppose it,
you make it PUBLIC.
when you want to take a MORAL WRONG and legalize it and call it right, YOU make it PUBLIC.
when you cram it down childrens throats in school against the parents wishes YOU MAKE IT PUBLIC.
and when MY government leaders tell the people to vote on it,
IT IS A PUBLIC issue.
do you understand that?
YOU are making it public.
no one cares what you do in the privacy of your home.
no one.
but you take it to the streets and the world will take issue with it.
when you surround churches with demands they abandon the scriptures to accomidate something the bible calls an abomination
YOU make it everyones business.
when you sue people who won't hire you because you are a freakish transexual you make it the worlds business.
deal with it.
there you go pattienuts, insulting me when you have previously said you never insult anyone, you just proved yourself wrong once again, when did i ever state i was a freakish transexual? Tell me when? You just say anything that doesn't support your version when you feel you been caught in your already usual lies, nothing new .
Idiot Hater

Russell Springs, KY

#10325 Jun 19, 2012
"you are begging but not for the answer"

Why doesn't god heal amputees is the only answer I'm asking for.

you are like booots, you don't want to know GOD no matter what.
-Not your god, no.
you want to push your agenda of silencing the faith all together.
-I would love to see ALL world religions silenced.
yes you are an atheist.
-No, I believe in a different concept of god. I'm a SECULARIST. Can I call you a catholic, then?

anyone who makes themself an enemy of God as you have, is the same as an atheist.
as far as God is concerned.
-There you go again. Professing to know the mind of god when it suits you.

you are a 'filthy' dirty liar
because you lie on GOD.
thats the worst of the worst.
-jesus would not approve of your venomous tounge.

i have seen God heala brain tumor, cervical cancer, other diseases, depression and i have experienced His healing touch in my own life as well.
-Afflictions you couldn't actually see.

so everything you say to me, are the EMPTY words of a God hater who has no first hand experience with God.
-Hate your version of god? Absolutely.

i do pray for you and every poster on here.
i ask God to convict your heart to the point you have to turn to Him.
-And yet, he hasn't answered any of those prayers, just like amputees. Maybe you ain't holding your mouth right when you pray.

and you know what.
while i will never know the outcome, i know this for certain,
you can't out run God or out smart God or out manuver God.
no matter where you go in life, HE WILL BE THERE...poking your conscience, making you MISERABLE in yourself, you won't have a moments peace until you stop running from God and get honest with yourself and right with God.
-Aaabooga-booga-booga-booga. I'm neither scared nor impressed Pattycakes. Your god is a limp d*ck.

and if you are ever wise enough to do that, you will be happy like you have never known happy.
-I'm happier now than I've ever been.:)

if you don't, you will go to your grave miserable, doubting, uncertanin, unblessed, and lost.
and then the real awakening will begin.......eternity in hell.
-Again, not scared. hell is no more real than anything else in that fairy-tale book of lies.

but it doesn't have to be that way.
you choose it in the here and now.
-And be cool like you? Pass.

you need to be healed by God.
-He can't even re-grow a big toe. I'll take my chances with modern medicine.

and if you ever cease with all this self centered foolishness long enough to genuinely seek God you will be glad you did.
-Except I'm seeking a figment of everyone's imagination. Like a heroine addict chasing the magic dragons.

i am NOT going to argue with you.
-You can't help yourself Patty. Your personality disorder won't allow you to stop.

you know the truth......what you do with it is YOUR consequence to own.
-The truth is I have intelligence and reason. You have superstitions and that's all you have. You're terrified to give up that illusion out of fear that there is nothing else.

Seek out The One True God, Patty. That's me and that you and boooots and everyone else.
Idiot Hater

Russell Springs, KY

#10326 Jun 19, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
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there is a man (can't remember his name) he is well known, a young man, born without ANY arms or legs... from austrailla i think
he travels the world and gives talks.
you don't think he spent many a night saying'WHY GOD?'
then He decided to 'seek God' and trust God.
and God revealed to this man with no arms or legs, that his life was more valuable and useful without limbs than with limbs.
how so you ask?
God is using this man to show the world that the same God on the mountain is the same God in the valley.
God is using this man to show the world what real faith is.
faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for and the evidence of things not 'YET' seen.
God is using this man to do a MIGHTY work to further the kingdom of God.
do you know how many people (like yourself) whine and bellyache and complain all the time when they DO HAVE their limbs and abilities....they do NOTHING with there life but complain and wallow in self pity .... and here you have a man who has learned what it means to HUMBLY live with limitations and cope, get by, survive and do as much for himself as someone with limbs.
he can feed and dress himself with his 'stubs'....
and he has overcome obstacles you and i would faulter under.
and he puts people like yourself TO SHAME.
God has saved that mans soul and promised him an eternal life and blessings you can't comprehend.
he has a smile on his face and is happy in the Lord in spite of his inflictions.
THATS the real testimony of God's power thru a sustaining faith.
That's a real warm and fuzzy story. This "man" (whom you can't remember the name) is happy god discrimates against his prayers just because he's an amputee. Sounds like this "man" needs to realize he's wasting his life fearing a god that can't heal him. Hmmmmph.
You and your god got NOTHING--NOTHING.
tired of hypocrites

United States

#10327 Jun 19, 2012
"All men are created equal". check your Constitution
tired of hypocrites

United States

#10328 Jun 19, 2012
did any of you men marry a woman who was not a virgin on your wedding day? if so, then you should have stoned her to death. that is also written in the same book of the OT that you hypocrites love to quote. eating shellfish is also an abomination. any of you eat shrimp, crab, lobster, oysters, mussels, clams, crawfish, etc? guess you won't be making it to Heaven either.
starbright

United States

#10329 Jun 19, 2012
tired of hypocrites wrote:
did any of you men marry a woman who was not a virgin on your wedding day? if so, then you should have stoned her to death. that is also written in the same book of the OT that you hypocrites love to quote. eating shellfish is also an abomination. any of you eat shrimp, crab, lobster, oysters, mussels, clams, crawfish, etc? guess you won't be making it to Heaven either.
yes, it says on "Deuteronomy" 23 ,24 or something like that, but pattie will ignore that "OF COURSE".

“Psalms 27:14 HOPE! ”

Since: Dec 11

Cincinnati, Ohio

#10330 Jun 19, 2012
starbright wrote:
<quoted text> your nosey big mouth is where the gay agenda is, that's a fact and the real issue.
the bible is SO true ... tells us that the light always offends the darkness.

“Psalms 27:14 HOPE! ”

Since: Dec 11

Cincinnati, Ohio

#10331 Jun 19, 2012
Pattys Worst Nightmare wrote:
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You sound a little pi$$ed Pattycakes. Am I getting to you? I know I am. I throw your lord's words at you and mock his impotence to even be able to keep them. When my heart stops beating, my shard will break The Net and I'll rejoin the rest of Us and yes, even you Patty are The One, just like me and all the other souls in this world. Religion traps you and keeps you from seeing the truth. we don't need god, we ARE god. I'm ready for it. I can't wait. Your religion will keep you under The Net because its a trap, not salvation.
you are no match for my faith.

and what i feel is 'pity' for you.

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows that he will reap. Galatians 6:7

how stupid of you to think God opperates by your clock.

“Psalms 27:14 HOPE! ”

Since: Dec 11

Cincinnati, Ohio

#10332 Jun 19, 2012
starbright wrote:
<quoted text> there you go pattienuts, insulting me when you have previously said you never insult anyone, you just proved yourself wrong once again, when did i ever state i was a freakish transexual? Tell me when? You just say anything that doesn't support your version when you feel you been caught in your already usual lies, nothing new .
learn to read.

i wasn't calling "YOU" personally a freakish transexual, i was making a statement that WHEN freakish transexuals sue companys who won't hire them that is making it public.

learn to read.

“Psalms 27:14 HOPE! ”

Since: Dec 11

Cincinnati, Ohio

#10333 Jun 19, 2012
Idiot Hater wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a real warm and fuzzy story. This "man" (whom you can't remember the name) is happy god discrimates against his prayers just because he's an amputee. Sounds like this "man" needs to realize he's wasting his life fearing a god that can't heal him. Hmmmmph.
You and your god got NOTHING--NOTHING.
his name is Nick Vujicic

heaven forbid you should actually have to get off your lazy rump and research anything for yourself.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/man-without...

and it is a warm and fuzzy story because it is true.
and that man has more integritiy than you could ever hope to achieve.
he can do more with his life with no limbs than you are doing with your life WITH limbs.
you should be so ashamed of yourself.

but that requires having a conscience.
you don't.
Dont judge

Russell Springs, KY

#10334 Jun 19, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
<quoted text>
and what exactly is your message?
you can't sway me from what i know is right.
God never lies to us.
as for kaitlin, she works for the devil.
her language is proof of that.
*My* message is that you are entitled to your beliefs on SSM but that unless you are participating in a marriage, you ultimately have no say. You have every right to claim that it's wrong and express yourself about the topic. But you have just as much of a right to interfere with their ability to marry as they do in your marriage(s).

And I am aware that no one, including myself, can sway you from your faith; it is clearly strong. But your faith is limited to controlling *your* life, not the lives of others.

I will also never resort to name calling or vulgar language and I will respect that you, as you say, "agree to disagree."

Since: Jan 12

Western Hemisphere

#10335 Jun 19, 2012
Idiot Hater wrote:
<quoted text>
"Nothin's changin'"? The 1960s Civil Rights Movement? 50 years later, a black man is president. By that rule of thumb, the current Gay Rights Movement should play out similarly 50 years from now. There are many other examples, but that one pops to mind first.
As I said, and YES, Nothin's Changin.
Laws may change, etc., but the way straights feel about gays hasn't really changed. They may appear to be more tolerant of the little deviants, but when they are with their OWN, they snicker - always will. So, hate to burst your little bubble, but it's still the same. Integration didn't really change anything either. The other side will always be on the other side and 2nd rate; not a true part of the mainstream.
Dont judge

Russell Springs, KY

#10336 Jun 19, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
<quoted text>
but when you walk up and down streets naked or half naked in parades shouting obcentites into camars about 'gayism' and making wild threats to those who oppose it,
you make it PUBLIC.
when you want to take a MORAL WRONG and legalize it and call it right, YOU make it PUBLIC.
I'm sure you're aware that there is a little place known as New Orleans. They have this special event called "Mardi Gras" every year where HETEROSEXUAL people parade down the street naked, shouting obscenities, and doing many other immoral acts. Those kinds of acts are not limited to the gay community. Nor is that kind of behavior something that every gay person participates in. They wouldn't fight so hard to be able to marry if they weren't interested in settling down and having loving, monogamous relationships, just like hetero couple. And straight people commit plenty of "immoral" acts in their own bedrooms. If they were prevented by law to do what they wanted to do in the privacy of their own homes or be able to marry whomever they want, they would be doing protests and campaigning for their rights, as well. Fortunately for us straight people, we don't have to do all of that work/fighting.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
<quoted text>
when you cram it down childrens throats in school against the parents wishes YOU MAKE IT PUBLIC.
Who's teaching SSM in schools? I've not heard about that happening, and if it is happening, it's not appropriate. But I'd like to know more specifics on this topic, please.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
<quoted text>
and when MY government leaders tell the people to vote on it,
IT IS A PUBLIC issue.
do you understand that?
YOU are making it public.
no one cares what you do in the privacy of your home.
no one.
but you take it to the streets and the world will take issue with it.
when you surround churches with demands they abandon the scriptures to accomidate something the bible calls an abomination
I'm glad you brought this up because it's not appropriate to bring up a CIVIL RIGHTS issue for a vote. I cannot express how completely wrong it is to even offer a RIGHTS issue up as a public vote. Why will people not understand that they are responsible for themselves and have no right to control what other people do with their lives? As I've said before, you have oodles of rights to express your disagreement based on religious beliefs but those beliefs are only responsible for what YOU do with YOUR life. They are not the beliefs of others. People "take it to the streets" because they will never receive equal rights unless they express how much they want them. Nothing changes unless change is asked for.

And who's is surrounding churches demanding anyone to abandon the scriptures? I have never heard of any gay person specifically going to a church and demanding that the congregation abandon their beliefs. Gay people don't care if you accept them, they just want equal rights. They will continue to be gay, even if they aren't accepted by churches or they don't get marriage equality but they will never expect churches to change.
Dont judge

Russell Springs, KY

#10337 Jun 19, 2012
GlobeStar wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said, and YES, Nothin's Changin.
Laws may change, etc., but the way straights feel about gays hasn't really changed. They may appear to be more tolerant of the little deviants, but when they are with their OWN, they snicker - always will. So, hate to burst your little bubble, but it's still the same. Integration didn't really change anything either. The other side will always be on the other side and 2nd rate; not a true part of the mainstream.
I really dislike calling people names so I'm just going to say that what you said is RACIST. People on "the other side" are 2nd rate? I can't even discuss that comment any more, it's so offensive.

And straight people *can* change the way they feel about SS topics. I know because I did. I grew up in a conservative Christian family and continue to live a Christian life, the way I interpret the Bible (which is to love, not hate). I support equal rights to all citizens, not just those who are like me.
starbright

United States

#10338 Jun 19, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
<quoted text>
learn to read.
i wasn't calling "YOU" personally a freakish transexual, i was making a statement that WHEN freakish transexuals sue companys who won't hire them that is making it public.
learn to read.
that automatically brings the issue of discrimination because what they do in their private life is nobody's business,and gay people have the right to survive and work for a living, just like everybody else,they also have the right to sue,since most states now include sexual orientation in their hiring process.
starbright

United States

#10339 Jun 19, 2012
GlobeStar wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said, and YES, Nothin's Changin.
Laws may change, etc., but the way straights feel about gays hasn't really changed. They may appear to be more tolerant of the little deviants, but when they are with their OWN, they snicker - always will. So, hate to burst your little bubble, but it's still the same. Integration didn't really change anything either. The other side will always be on the other side and 2nd rate; not a true part of the mainstream.
we are discussing gay marriage here not acceptance from straight people, most gay people seem to care less about who accepts them and who doesn't, unacceptance does little on someone ones sexual orientation.
Idiot Hater

Jamestown, KY

#10340 Jun 19, 2012
GlobeStar wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said, and YES, Nothin's Changin.
Laws may change, etc., but the way straights feel about gays hasn't really changed. They may appear to be more tolerant of the little deviants, but when they are with their OWN, they snicker - always will. So, hate to burst your little bubble, but it's still the same. Integration didn't really change anything either. The other side will always be on the other side and 2nd rate; not a true part of the mainstream.
Oh, I get it. You hate gays. Ahhhh. Makes sense now. I agree prejudice is alive and well. But intolerance is on the decline. While zealots like you will remain long after modern society is gone, they are thankfully, a shrinking minority. News Flash! The rich, straight, white, Republican, WASP monopoly is coming to an end.
I myself am straight. A pure heterosexual. I'm in love with same woman I was in love with 20 years ago. But I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH GAYS OR LESBIANS OR BLACKS OR HISPANICS, ECT. I judge people on their merits not skin color or creed. That's the identifying mark of a narrow mind, hence idiocy.
Why should I care if a man lies to blow the flesh flute? It's nothing to me. I can't blame lesbians for liking women. I can certainly relate.
So, you wring your hands and hope everyone rallys to your cause and out-dated way of thinking.
Me? I'll just enjoy being alive.
Believer

Jamestown, KY

#10342 Jun 19, 2012
tired of hypocrites wrote:
did any of you men marry a woman who was not a virgin on your wedding day? if so, then you should have stoned her to death. that is also written in the same book of the OT that you hypocrites love to quote. eating shellfish is also an abomination. any of you eat shrimp, crab, lobster, oysters, mussels, clams, crawfish, etc? guess you won't be making it to Heaven either.
But you keep sinning.

“Hello Darlings!”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#10343 Jun 19, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
She has made her choice; the die has been cast, and now she now has to live with it. For all I care, she can fuck off and die. Maybe she'll be reincarnated as a better person.
<quoted text>
I don't see death as an end, I see it as a change. It is the opening of a door to another life beyond this one. You forget; I'm a Pagan. I do not share your atheistic beliefs, nor those of most other atheists on Topix.
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>....(snipped for brevity....)I think you were suggesting she die more to get rid of her than to send her on to a better next step, whatever that might be.
Then you didn't read the post very carefully.
boooots wrote:
<quoted text> I was just saying that I think you are above making those kinds of statements. You are too intelligent to be threatening anyway, as you can easily win this debate simply by using your superior intelligence.
I. Don't. Care.

It wasn't a threat, it was a hope.

And when it comes to dealing with something like her, all the intelligence in the world cannot penetrate her shield of stupidity, hate and superstition. She is *proudly* immune to learning anything. Her entire philosophy, if one can call it that, is, "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." Period. There is no reasoning with that.

She should be flushed away, with the rest of the toilet's contents.
Believer

Jamestown, KY

#10344 Jun 19, 2012
Dont judge wrote:
<quoted text>
*My* message is that you are entitled to your beliefs on SSM but that unless you are participating in a marriage, you ultimately have no say. You have every right to claim that it's wrong and express yourself about the topic. But you have just as much of a right to interfere with their ability to marry as they do in your marriage(s).
And I am aware that no one, including myself, can sway you from your faith; it is clearly strong. But your faith is limited to controlling *your* life, not the lives of others.
I will also never resort to name calling or vulgar language and I will respect that you, as you say, "agree to disagree."
I do like your last paragraph, but everyone should speak out against sin.
2Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine.

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