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Gay Marriage Debate - Rowlett, TX

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#22
Jul 4, 2012
 
Can we just call their union something besides marriage. I don't care if they want to be together and have the legal tenets that they want..just call it something a little less sacred.. Love is wonderful and if we all had more things would be better!
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#23
Jul 19, 2012
 
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The divorce rate is sky high, and so many commit adultery. If you look up adultery in the dictionary, it is an extramarital affair between a married couple. So both of these have not been statistically supported by gays but ONLY by straight, married couples.
ROTFLMAO !!!

That's because homoze can't get married, dimwit. Every study ever taken has revealed that homoze are notorious for having many sexual partners.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
heartandmind wrote:
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try again. only before you do, try reading what leading medical researchers and psychological professional organizations across america have said with regards to homosexuality.
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientat...
"Is sexual orientation a choice?No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed."
"What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?There are numerous theories about the origins of a person's sexual orientation. Most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors. In most people, sexual orientation is shaped at an early age. There is also considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality.
It's important to recognize that there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation, and the reasons may be different for different people."
Professor Michael King states: "The conclusion reached by scientists who have investigated the origins and stability of sexual orientation is that it is a human characteristic that is formed early in life, and is resistant to change. Scientific evidence on the origins of homosexuality is considered relevant to theological and social debate because it undermines suggestions that sexual orientation is a choice."
http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp...
"The authors of a 2008 study stated "there is considerable evidence that human sexual orientation is genetically influenced, so it is not known how homosexuality, which tends to lower reproductive success, is maintained in the population at a relatively high frequency". They hypothesized that "while genes predisposing to homosexuality reduce homosexuals' reproductive success, they may confer some advantage in heterosexuals who carry them". Their results suggested that "genes predisposing to homosexuality may confer a mating advantage in heterosexuals, which could help explain the evolution and maintenance of homosexuality in the population"."
genepi.qimr.edu .au/.../p/.../ZietschetalNGM59 7Evol&HumBeh424-433.pdf
Nonsense.

If homosexuality were indeed genetic, then it would show itself in identical twins since identical twins have the same DNA. This is not the case.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
Hannah wrote:
Love is Love!
Queer is Queer!
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Jul 19, 2012
 
Sarah wrote:
laws should not be based on biblical imperatives.
Tell that to the 235 million Christian Americans.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
Correction Please wrote:
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Tell that to the 235 million Christian Americans.
You do realize we the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA are not a theocacy...
You do realize that notall of the 235 mill. are in agreement with you on ssm
You do realize that IT DOESNT MATTER if all of them were as we do not base our rights and laws on someones belief of what their holy book says.... we are not the taliban... well people like you are... but our nation is not
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#28
Jul 20, 2012
 
This is not the way God would have it. He created us for man and women. Gay marriage is against nature and the God of the Holy Bible!
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Jul 20, 2012
 
Truth wrote:
This is not the way God would have it. He created us for man and women. Gay marriage is against nature and the God of the Holy Bible!
First
marriage in itself is against nature....
There are far more speicies which have homosexuals in it than species that mate for life
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It doesnt matter if you believe it is against God... because the united states of america is not a theocracy. What you believe your holy book says has nothign to do with thelaw and equal rights and legal coverage for ALL citizens.
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#30
Jul 20, 2012
 
NoBama wrote:
Can we just call their union something besides marriage. I don't care if they want to be together and have the legal tenets that they want..just call it something a little less sacred.. Love is wonderful and if we all had more things would be better!
the term marriage, legally speaking, is a legal term and as such give certain priviliges to those that are legally married. a church or religious institution may decide for itself whether or not to marry a couple, whether based up on their sexuality (same sex, for example) or upon their religous choices. some religious leaders choose to not marry a couple made up of different denominational faiths, for example. there is no law at present forcing these religious leaders to perform marriage rights on people they don't think should be married right now - and that's not changing.
what is at stake is the legalities involved. the secular laws, not biblical laws are affected.
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Jul 20, 2012
 
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Nonsense.
If homosexuality were indeed genetic, then it would show itself in identical twins since identical twins have the same DNA. This is not the case.
sorry pal...the medical and psychological experts disagree with you. if you don't understand what's written in the previous posting you quoted, go back and re-read it until you DO understand what they're talking about. once you understand it, check back with us.
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Jul 20, 2012
 
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Tell that to the 235 million Christian Americans.
american public is secular and not biblical. this is not a theocracy.
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Jul 20, 2012
 
heartandmind wrote:
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the term marriage, legally speaking, is a legal term and as such give certain priviliges to those that are legally married. a church or religious institution may decide for itself whether or not to marry a couple, whether based up on their sexuality (same sex, for example) or upon their religous choices. some religious leaders choose to not marry a couple made up of different denominational faiths, for example. there is no law at present forcing these religious leaders to perform marriage rights on people they don't think should be married right now - and that's not changing.
what is at stake is the legalities involved. the secular laws, not biblical laws are affected.
Well stated. In fact many churches (mine included) will not marry you if you are currently living together. They require you live in seperate domociles at least 1 month before the marriage.

The easiest thing to do is change the legal name of all marriages to something else. That way the "churches" could say what marriage is to them, while legally, anyone be it ssc or osc could get legally joined. But that is wishful thinking at best
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Jul 20, 2012
 
no big O wrote:
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Well stated. In fact many churches (mine included) will not marry you if you are currently living together. They require you live in seperate domociles at least 1 month before the marriage.
The easiest thing to do is change the legal name of all marriages to something else. That way the "churches" could say what marriage is to them, while legally, anyone be it ssc or osc could get legally joined. But that is wishful thinking at best
thank you.
i would agree with you except for the fact that would require much legislative change - many laws would need to be re-written to accomodate the change in legal term in lieu of "marriage". and humans being humans, there are apt to errors or ommissions made (for this sake, i'll say innocently ommitted) which could cause disastrous results. our legislatures (state & federal) are bogged down enough & spend enough of our tax payer's money on nonsense legislation as it is and to add to that long list just because some folks are offended by the terminology is a little too expensive to appease those.

equally so, there are many churches and religious organizations (read : other than churches) that will marry a same sex couple. the laws, as they are written, fly in the face of their religious freedoms to express their faith as they see fit. additional thought here, if someone's afraid that a church will be forced to perform a marriage ceremony against their will or their beliefs, we can point to the churches that currently perform same sex marriages as well as those churches that won't marry a couple on reasons you stated (or any other religious reason to deny a couple a marriage ceremony).

the government does need to step out and stop deciding for churches what they can and can't do, and likewise, the churches need to step back and not dictate to government what it should or shouldn't do and leave all those types of decisions up to the individual. for example, churches shouldn't dictate to the government that it should spend more tax payer's money on helping the poor than the government spends on, say, military spending. and likewise, the government needs to butt out of churches & not tell them how to express their faith in some manner.
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Aug 1, 2012
 
heartandmind wrote:
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But I must admit that the American public should be biblical and obedient to God, lest they burn in Hades. Homosexuality is a sin as discussed in the Bible. It is listed as an abomination twice in the New Testament.
The fact that your holy book calls it an abomination does not make a difference. We are not a theocracy. What you believe your holy book to say on this or any other subject does not matter in regards to rights of an american citizen..... You say the public should be.... What about those of another religion whose ideas may not be in sync with your holy book... who do we go by then?... easy answer, no one because we are not bound by theology, but by a concept of all men being equal.

Now tell me why a couple together for 15 years and happen to be a ssc should enjoy less rights and legal coverage than a couple married 15 minutes.....

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