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Cool Hand Luke

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Sep 21, 2012
 
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Male Homosexual Sex Fuelling Spread of HIV in Asia, Warns World Health Organization

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HONG KONG,- Male homosexual sex is "fueling" the rapid rise in HIV/AIDS infections in Asia, according to a recent report by the Western Pacific Branch of the World Health Organization (WHO). The WHO warned today that the HIV/AIDS epidemic may take a major turn for the worse in Asia.

The central role of male homosexual sex in the HIV spread has prompted WHO’s Western Pacific office, in collaboration with the United Nations Development Program, UNAIDS and the Hong Kong Department of Health, to implement AIDS prevention programs in light of the unique vulnerability of people with same-sex attractions.

"Studies show that at present, the proportion of HIV infections being transmitted among men who have sex with men is larger and more significant than we had originally believed," said Dr Massimo Ghidinelli, WHO Regional Adviser in HIV/AIDS and Sexually Transmitted Infections. "Action needs to be taken now if a major increase in HIV/AIDS cases is to be averted. We need to target HIV prevention strategies, together with better access to health services, for men who have sex with men (MSM)."

The release cites a 2007 report showing an increase in AIDS infections across Asia, and mentions China in particular, where the risk of infection by active homosexual men is 45 times higher than for men in general. The WHO noted that Asia is thought to have the world’s largest number of actively homosexual men, estimated at 10 million.

China’s official news agency Xinhua also announced today that AIDS took more Chinese lives than any other deadly infectious disease last year. Xinhua said there were a total of 264,302 HIV/AIDS cases by the end of September last year. The United Nations estimates 700,000 Chinese were HIV positive by the end of 2007.

The organizers will meet with HIV/AIDS specialists from Asian governments, regional experts and representatives from nongovernmental organizations from 18 to 20 February, when they will consider strategies to deliver better services to MSM communities.
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Sep 21, 2012
 
FDA: Gay Men Still Banned from Donating Blood Over Documented Risk Concerns

WASHINGTON, D.C.,– Despite attempts by pro-homosexual advocates to paint the homosexual lifestyle as just another, normal, and healthy lifestyle choice, the FDA has renewed its 1983 policy that gay men cannot donate blood, due to the high-risk nature of living an active homosexual lifestyle.

This past Wednesday the FDA stated that, despite mounting opposition to the policy, it will for medical reasons continue to uphold its ban on men who live or who have lived an active homosexual life from donating blood.

According to the FDA, the ban is in place because,“A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.”

The FDA policy relating to homosexual men is unique in its severity. While there is a lengthy list of criteria by which a potential donor may be deferred from donating blood (such as visiting particular African countries), such bans usually expire after a certain period of time. The ban on homosexual men, however, applies to any man who has ever had sex with another man, even once, subsequent to 1977.

The Administration, however, argues that the strictness of the ban is justified, pointing out that the “policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.”

Some, however, are arguing that the FDA’s policy is discriminatory against homosexual men. Arthur Caplan, in an editorial for NBC6 argues that new testing technologies alleviate any fear that patients may contract AIDS by receiving a tainted transfusion.“At one time, long ago, the gay-blood ban may have made sense. But it no longer does,” he said.

“If a man has sex with a high risk woman, he’s allowed back into the donation pool after 12 months,” complained Joel Ginsberg, the executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.“If he has safe sex with another man, he’s banned for life.”

Recognizing that the area of homosexuality is a controversial realm, however, with pro-homosexual activists on the watch for any signs of discrimination, the FDA responded to accusations of discrimination in its updated official policy in the matter. The “deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donor’s sexual orientation,” reads the FDA’s policy.

“Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA.”

Dr. Robertson Davenport, who is an associate professor of pathology at the University of Michigan Hospital, agrees with the decision of the FDA.“The data are clear that men who engage in sexual contact with other men, as a whole, have a significantly higher risk of HIV,” he said.“Given our testing is not perfect, we will increase the risk to patients.”

A number of European countries have similar bans pertaining to homosexual man. Canada also forbids homosexual men from donating blood, due to similar concerns.

Read the full text of “FDA Policy on Blood Donations from Men Who Have Sex with Other Men”:
http://www.fda.gov/cber/faq/msmdonor.htm
no big O

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Sep 21, 2012
 
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
No homosexuality is a world wide problem.
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Homosexuality Triggering HIV Escalation
WASHINGTON, While the rates for new cases of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, have been on the decline among heterosexuals and intravenous drug users, US health officials are expressing alarm at an eight percent increase in HIV rates in homosexual and bisexual men in one year.
Measuring the increase in prevalence of the virus at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that the 8% rise in cases among men who commit sodomy with men,“was statistically significant” for the 33 states that reported on HIV cases, according to the CDC’s publication, Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report.
In addition, the CDC reported that the majority of HIV infections in women were a result of what the organization terms “high risk” sexual behavior, which includes sex with bisexual men, while an estimated 25% of persons living with HIV do not know they are infected.
The CDC cautioned that the increasing HIV rate may be a true reflection of increases in the disease, particularly as the transmission rates are heightened by concurrent infections with sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis – which is also skyrocketing among homosexual men – but “might also reflect increases in HIV testing among [men who have sex with men].” Statistics Canada revealed last year that the rate of syphilis among homosexual men had almost doubled. According to the CDC, people with syphilis are two to five times more likely to transmit or contract HIV than individuals not infected with a sexually transmitted disease.
The CDC also warned that a survey of 15-29-year-old men who engaged in sodomy “reported that the proportion of unrecognized HIV infection was as high as 77%.”
The CDC estimated that, in the 33 US states that reported on HIV incidence, 157,252 persons were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS between, 71% of whom were male. The CDC also noted that the majority of men who contracted the disease were affected through the act of sodomy, 17% through “high-risk” heterosexual contact, and 16% through injection-drug use.
See the CDC’s report:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm54 ...
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You do realize cdc is united states... not world wide

Globally, 85% of HIV transmission is through heterosexual intercourse.
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/hivaids/articl...

And still the fact that married people do not sleep around nearly as much as single people means that ssm will make the rate decline in the u.s..... so down with aids let them get married
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#382
Sep 23, 2012
 
LOL that's because 98% of men are not homosexual.

In the USA, the vast majority of new HIV infections come from men who have sex with men, despite the fact that they represent a tiny portion of the population. A VERY telling statistic.
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Sep 23, 2012
 
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LOL that's because 98% of men are not homosexual.
In the USA, the vast majority of new HIV infections come from men who have sex with men, despite the fact that they represent a tiny portion of the population. A VERY telling statistic.
Which again is a strong point for ssm... As a general rule, married people do not sleep around (at least not to the extent that non married people do) so less sleeping around less spread of aids... yea for ssm
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#384
Sep 24, 2012
 
What happened to all those "committed, loving relationships" I keep hearing about?

Was it all just another lie??

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Sep 24, 2012
 
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What happened to all those "committed, loving relationships" I keep hearing about?
Was it all just another lie??
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what are you speaking about. By allowing them to marry, they enter into the committed loving relationship which percludes, for most people, sleeping around. Less partners, less spread of Aids, yea for ssm
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#386
Sep 24, 2012
 
What I am speaking about is the constant claims that two homosexuals in a committed and loving relationship should be allowed to marry. If that were true, they wouldn't be sleeping around, would they?
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Sep 24, 2012
 
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What I am speaking about is the constant claims that two homosexuals in a committed and loving relationship should be allowed to marry. If that were true, they wouldn't be sleeping around, would they?
No more than two hetero living together but not married. The difference is the hetero couple can get married and enjoy the privledges both monetary and legal that comes with it. The ssc in a long term can not. Both sets are U.S. citizens... yet one has a chance at more government granted rights than the other... Tell me how this is fair?
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#388
Sep 24, 2012
 
Romans Chapter 1. Get a KJV and read it.
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Sep 24, 2012
 
Daniel wrote:
Romans Chapter 1. Get a KJV and read it.
Constitution... separation of church and state... read it
Cool Hand Luke

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Sep 24, 2012
 
There's nothing in the Constitution that supports your cause. The drug dealers and the pedophiles have used that same reasoning. I would argue that drugs present less of a threat to the public than homosexual's and I would be right!

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Cool Hand Luke

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Sep 24, 2012
 
Doctors Say Same-Sex Marriage Will Give False Impression Gay Sex is Safe

Illinois– The looming legalization of same-sex marriage has pushed several doctors to begin speaking out on the harmful medical consequences of homosexual sex. In addition to the group of physicians who presented their findings to Parliament in a referenced brief last week , two other doctors presented evidence but requested anonymity based on fear of retribution from homosexual activists. The doctors noted that they are concerned for individuals practicing dangerous homosexual sex practices but also for society in that the normalization of such sex practices through same sex ‘marriage’ legislation will result in a major added burden on health care.“Legalization of same sex marriage by the government would give the false message that homosexual sex practices, such as anal intercourse, as long as ‘practiced safely’, are not endangering the health of the partners,” said Dr. C. Providing rather explicit details which she felt the public must be aware of, she explained,“Anal intercourse causes abrasions of the relatively fragile rectal wall, especially in the receptive partner. The penetration of E.coli, always present in the stool, and other bacteria, viruses and parasites penetrate through such lesions into the deeper body tissues. This leads to the suppression of the immune system of such individuals even if there is no exposure to HIV. The immune suppression increases the risk to develop certain cancers, opportunistic infections, to which otherwise one would be resistant, and other health problems including the risk of premature death.” Information on the health risks of gay sex is available from the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association (GLMA). A survey by members of the GLMA released in August 2002 listed the main health problems affecting homosexual men. According to Christopher E. Harris, MD, GLMA President and Vincent M.B. Silenzio, MD, MPH, there are increased health risks for homosexual men. The most common health problems in homosexual men are:

1. Increased incidence of infectious diseases - HIV/AIDS*- syphilis - gonorrhea - chlamydia - pubic lice - hepatitis A - hepatitis B - hepatitis C - anal papilloma 2. Increased incidence of cancer especially - colon/rectal - prostate - testicular 3. Increased incidence of eating disorders - bulimia - anorexia nervosa - obesity 4. Increased incidences of other psychological problems - anxiety - depression - suicide 5. Increased incidence of addiction problems especially - tobacco - alcohol - street drugs - amyl nitrates (poppers) See also Physician Says Science of Medical Consequences of Homosexual Behavior is Being Trumped by Political Agenda
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Sep 24, 2012
 
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
There's nothing in the Constitution that supports your cause. The drug dealers and the pedophiles have used that same reasoning. I would argue that drugs present less of a threat to the public than homosexual's and I would be right!
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Really... so there is nothing in the constitution regarding separation of church and state?... there is nothing that basically says that just as the State can not mandate religion, like wise religion can not man date state laws and actions... really?... were you asleep that day in civics class?
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Sep 24, 2012
 
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Doctors Say Same-Sex Marriage Will Give False Impression Gay Sex is Safe
Illinois– The looming legalization of same-sex marriage has pushed several doctors to begin speaking out on the harmful medical consequences of homosexual sex. In addition to the group of physicians who presented their findings to Parliament in a referenced brief last week , two other doctors presented evidence but requested anonymity based on fear of retribution from homosexual activists. The doctors noted that they are concerned for individuals practicing dangerous homosexual sex practices but also for society in that the normalization of such sex practices through same sex ‘marriage’ legislation will result in a major added burden on health care.“Legalization of same sex marriage by the government would give the false message that homosexual sex practices, such as anal intercourse, as long as ‘practiced safely’, are not endangering the health of the partners,” said Dr. C. Providing rather explicit details which she felt the public must be aware of, she explained,“Anal intercourse causes abrasions of the relatively fragile rectal wall, especially in the receptive partner. The penetration of E.coli, always present in the stool, and other bacteria, viruses and parasites penetrate through such lesions into the deeper body tissues. This leads to the suppression of the immune system of such individuals even if there is no exposure to HIV. The immune suppression increases the risk to develop certain cancers, opportunistic infections, to which otherwise one would be resistant, and other health problems including the risk of premature death.” Information on the health risks of gay sex is available from the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association (GLMA). A survey by members of the GLMA released in August 2002 listed the main health problems affecting homosexual men. According to Christopher E. Harris, MD, GLMA President and Vincent M.B. Silenzio, MD, MPH, there are increased health risks for homosexual men. The most common health problems in homosexual men are:
1. Increased incidence of infectious diseases - HIV/AIDS*- syphilis - gonorrhea - chlamydia - pubic lice - hepatitis A - hepatitis B - hepatitis C - anal papilloma 2. Increased incidence of cancer especially - colon/rectal - prostate - testicular 3. Increased incidence of eating disorders - bulimia - anorexia nervosa - obesity 4. Increased incidences of other psychological problems - anxiety - depression - suicide 5. Increased incidence of addiction problems especially - tobacco - alcohol - street drugs - amyl nitrates (poppers) See also Physician Says Science of Medical Consequences of Homosexual Behavior is Being Trumped by Political Agenda
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yada yada... still not a reason to deny rights to u.s. citizens given to others. It may happen according to doctors... several doctors... with no scientific evidence to back it up.... wow there is a study to believe in if ever there was one.
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Sep 26, 2012
 
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No more than two hetero living together but not married. The difference is the hetero couple can get married and enjoy the privledges both monetary and legal that comes with it. The ssc in a long term can not. Both sets are U.S. citizens... yet one has a chance at more government granted rights than the other... Tell me how this is fair?
So now it's down to the money, Thanks!

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Sep 26, 2012
 
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So now it's down to the money, Thanks!
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No not just the money and legal benifits... However, those are measurable things denied to the two u.s. citizens. If there were no incentives to marriage it still would no be right to deny it...
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#396
Sep 26, 2012
 
5 out of every 10 married women commit adultery, 7 out of every 10 married men commit adultery. Why do we even have marriage? 50% of marriages end in divorce. Would it not make more sense to do away with marriage?
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#398
Sep 27, 2012
 
It would be better to do away with marriage than to pervert it.
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Dec 23, 2013
 
Fully support gay marriage love is love

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