Gay Marriage Debate - El Paso, TX

Old arguments are gOOd tOO
refuting the oldest bad argument is the best argument.

chief22 wrote:

The sanctity of Marriage does not need to be fundamentally redefined to make a few individules feel better about themselves

The "sanctity" of marriage, which is rooted in religion and spirituality, does not magically change when you alter the general definition of marriage, which is rooted in terms of law and civil rights.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-743653

It is a sin

MarleneBomer wrote:

Sorry Brian... separate but equal is unconstitutional! The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth prohibits it!

If the bond of man and woman were equal to the lust of man and man then you might have a point,

Truth wrote:

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The "sanctity" of marriage, which is rooted in religion and spirituality, does not magically change when you alter the general definition of marriage, which is rooted in terms of law and civil rights.

wether you do it by law or by the Word of God you are still fundamentally redifining the institution of marriage, and there is no civil rights issues as it relates to marriage in 2012

No Equality wrote:

As soon as gay marriage is legal. I am going to petition to marry my sister. Don't you gays dare judge me. If you can marry each other, I should be allowed to marry my sister.

if marriage equality is the "goal" of homosexuals, they must respect and support ALL types of marriages whether it be insetuous or polygamist unions, ALL must be allowed.

Chief -- You are stupid as well as ignorant.

Due Process deems that one must have a *compelling* reason to deny equal rights. inscestuous and polygamous unions are both inherently unequal, and thus illegal.

You morons from the religious have been spewing that bile ever since Loving in '67.... why don't you try some other lame excuse, because those are as stale and moldy as year-old bread!

Heterosexuality is labeled on marriage by husband and wife.

love is love

But that's no reason to ignore law, biology, culture or reason. Pity is pity, but we can't write law based on pure emotion unless we want to destroy ourselves.

MarleneBomer wrote:

Chief -- You are stupid as well as ignorant.
Due Process deems that one must have a *compelling* reason to deny equal rights. inscestuous and polygamous unions are both inherently unequal, and thus illegal.
You morons from the religious have been spewing that bile ever since Loving in '67.... why don't you try some other lame excuse, because those are as stale and moldy as year-old bread!

no rights are involved when we talk of marriage, not to mention marriage laws apply equally to you as they do me.

nick wrote:

love is love

you confuse love with lust

Chiefie -- The bigots and racists trying to justify the ban on interracial marriage tried to use that same excuse, my darling... the SCOTUS squashed that lame excuse as easily as swatting a fly!

I am a *lesbian*, you dimbulb. I'm no more attracted to men as YOU are! You sound like Henry Ford when he told customers "You can have any color car you want, as long as it's black."

Equality is NOT "one size fits all" dearest!Grow up for a change and realize that none of the states which have legalized marriage equality haven't seen an increase in divorce, the Plagues of Egypt haven't visited them (unless you want to call the invasion of fanatical religious bigots a plague!), nor has the state become one huge orgy, either!

But racial differences are so unlike gender differences. SCOTUS knows there is no right to gender equality.

Equality is a limited right.

MarleneBomer wrote:

Chiefie -- The bigots and racists trying to justify the ban on interracial marriage tried to use that same excuse, my darling... the SCOTUS squashed that lame excuse as easily as swatting a fly!
I am a *lesbian*, you dimbulb. I'm no more attracted to men as YOU are! You sound like Henry Ford when he told customers "You can have any color car you want, as long as it's black."
Equality is NOT "one size fits all" dearest!Grow up for a change and realize that none of the states which have legalized marriage equality haven't seen an increase in divorce, the Plagues of Egypt haven't visited them (unless you want to call the invasion of fanatical religious bigots a plague!), nor has the state become one huge orgy, either!

first off skin color is not a lifestyle choice.

you arent looking for equality you want you lifestyle choice accepted by law.

equality is one size fits all, since the law is written you can't bend it to fit your agenda, you can just change the laws, and the only homosexuals can do it is by judicial fiat, never at the balot box

The Great Petro wrote:

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Hi there Chief22 you big hunk of a man, you think I could join the boy scouts and be assigned to your scout unit?
I am forty 4 years old pedophile Mexican, but I can pass as a 14 year old.

pass as a 14 year old what??

chief22 wrote:

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first off skin color is not a lifestyle choice.
you arent looking for equality you want you lifestyle choice accepted by law.
equality is one size fits all, since the law is written you can't bend it to fit your agenda, you can just change the laws, and the only homosexuals can do it is by judicial fiat, never at the balot box

But marrying someone of another race is a lifestyle choice -- one that people made the exact same arguments about that you are making.

Chiefie must have *never* heard of the phrase "passing for white". Shoes his utter ignorance, doesn't it?

Chiefie, back in the bad old days of Jim Crow, there were laws on the books called the "one-drop rule". No matter how Caucasian a child looked, if there was enough African ancestry, that child was considered black and faced the full fury of segregation.

When they left the state, those folks when moving to another state facing segregation or up north, when getting a new drivers' license, registered as white!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_for_whit...

So don't go spewing something you know *nothing* about!

Same sex marriage is gender equality, but marriage has always been between husband and wife. There is no gender equality in nature or in law. Sorry.