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Jul 22, 2011
 
It's not natural in any means...sorry gays..but keep it to yourselves..our churches shouldn't be used nor our vows...Why don't you make up your marriage like you do your personalities?
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Sep 22, 2011
 
if they love each other, let em do it. stop getting involved in other peoples lifes
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Sep 23, 2011
 
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“Gay” Sex Kills

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Commentary by J. Matt Barber

April 21, 2008 ( LifeSiteNews.com )- Can you imagine officials at a middle school, junior high or high school setting aside a day to promote "tolerance" for heavy smoking and drinking among children? How about a day where teachers encourage kids to "embrace who they are," pick up that crack pipe and give it a stiff toke?

Neither can I. The public would go ballistic, and for good reason.

But that hasn’t stopped officials in thousands of schools across the country from promoting other politically correct and socially "in-vogue" behaviors that - both statistically and manifestly - are every bit as dangerous as the aforementioned frowned-upon behaviors.

That’s exactly what the homosexual activist "Day of Silence" is all about - advancing, through clever, feel-good propaganda, full acceptance among children of the homosexual lifestyle.

Just the Facts Ma’am

By recently admitting that "HIV is a gay disease," Matt Foreman, outgoing Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, acknowledged what the medical community has known for decades: the homosexual lifestyle is extremely high-risk and often leads to disease and even death.

In fact, multiple studies have established that homosexual conduct, especially among males, is considerably more hazardous to one’s health than a lifetime of chain smoking.

To the consternation of "gay" activist flat-earthers and homosexual AIDS holocaust deniers everywhere, one such study - conducted by pro-"gay" researchers in Canada - was published in the International Journal of Epidemiology (IJE) in 1997.(see the study here: http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/26/ ...)

While the medical consensus is that smoking knocks from two to 10 years off an individual’s life expectancy, the IJE study found that homosexual conduct shortens the lifespan of "gays" by an astounding "8 to 20 years" - more than twice that of smoking.

"[U]nder even the most liberal assumptions," concluded the study, "gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.…[L]ife expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men."

This morose reality makes a strong case for a fitting redefinition of so-called "homophobia," that being "Homophobia: The rational fear that ‘gay sex’ will kill you!"

The fact that we don’t have mandatory surgeon general warnings on the side of condom wrappers is a testament to the power and influence wielded by the radical homosexual lobby.(Warning: Male-male anal sodomy has been proven to shorten your lifespan by up to 20 years.)

Not surprisingly, that same homosexual lobby and its codependent enablers in the mainstream media moved quickly to sweep the IJE study under the rug. Under tremendous pressure, the researchers who conducted the study even jumped into the political damage control fray issuing a statement which read, "[W]e do not condone the use of our research in a manner that restricts the political or human rights of gay and bisexual men or any other group."

Yeah, so?

Of course, that’s all just worthless fluff. All the political spin in the world doesn’t change reality, nor does it eliminate the study’s disturbing conclusions or practical implications. The research left ZERO wiggle room for anyone who would argue that homosexuality is a "perfectly normal and healthy alternative sexual orientation."
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Sep 23, 2011
 
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“Gay” Sex Kills

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Commentary by J. Matt Barber

April 21, 2008 ( LifeSiteNews.com )- Can you imagine officials at a middle school, junior high or high school setting aside a day to promote "tolerance" for heavy smoking and drinking among children? How about a day where teachers encourage kids to "embrace who they are," pick up that crack pipe and give it a stiff toke?

Neither can I. The public would go ballistic, and for good reason.

But that hasn’t stopped officials in thousands of schools across the country from promoting other politically correct and socially "in-vogue" behaviors that - both statistically and manifestly - are every bit as dangerous as the aforementioned frowned-upon behaviors.

That’s exactly what the homosexual activist "Day of Silence" is all about - advancing, through clever, feel-good propaganda, full acceptance among children of the homosexual lifestyle.

Just the Facts Ma’am

By recently admitting that "HIV is a gay disease," Matt Foreman, outgoing Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, acknowledged what the medical community has known for decades: the homosexual lifestyle is extremely high-risk and often leads to disease and even death.

In fact, multiple studies have established that homosexual conduct, especially among males, is considerably more hazardous to one’s health than a lifetime of chain smoking.

To the consternation of "gay" activist flat-earthers and homosexual AIDS holocaust deniers everywhere, one such study - conducted by pro-"gay" researchers in Canada - was published in the International Journal of Epidemiology (IJE) in 1997.(see the study here: http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/26/ ...)

While the medical consensus is that smoking knocks from two to 10 years off an individual’s life expectancy, the IJE study found that homosexual conduct shortens the lifespan of "gays" by an astounding "8 to 20 years" - more than twice that of smoking.

"[U]nder even the most liberal assumptions," concluded the study, "gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.…[L]ife expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men."

This morose reality makes a strong case for a fitting redefinition of so-called "homophobia," that being "Homophobia: The rational fear that ‘gay sex’ will kill you!"

The fact that we don’t have mandatory surgeon general warnings on the side of condom wrappers is a testament to the power and influence wielded by the radical homosexual lobby.(Warning: Male-male anal sodomy has been proven to shorten your lifespan by up to 20 years.)

Not surprisingly, that same homosexual lobby and its codependent enablers in the mainstream media moved quickly to sweep the IJE study under the rug. Under tremendous pressure, the researchers who conducted the study even jumped into the political damage control fray issuing a statement which read, "[W]e do not condone the use of our research in a manner that restricts the political or human rights of gay and bisexual men or any other group.
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Sep 23, 2011
 
Find Homosexual Republicans @
Google; Log Cabin Republicans. Org
Search; Log Cabin Republicans - Defense of Marraige Act
Search; Log Cabin Republicans - "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
Search; Log Cabin Republicans - Bob Barr(R)GA
Search; Log Cabin Rerpublicans - Count Us In
Search; the Secret Inner Life of Laura Bush, video
The former first lady is being interviewed by Larry King
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Sep 23, 2011
 
This is do stupid hiv is not a gay disease yes gay men are at a high risk because anal sex makes it easier to contract and lesbians are the lowest risk of all to contract. I know several people living with hiv and a person that died from aids all straight people do get over yourselves.
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Sep 23, 2011
 
An official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced the CDC's estimate Monday that in the United States AIDS is fifty times more prevalent among men who have sex with men ('MSM') than the rest of the population. Dr. Amy Lansky revealed this statistic during a plenary session at the 2009 HIV Prevention Conference in Atlanta.
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Sep 23, 2011
 
CDC says 1.2 million Americans are living with AIDS, and each year 40,000 new cases arise. This is still an epidemic.
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Sep 24, 2011
 
Homosexuality is a crime against nature. The Bible condemns it, therefore no man has a formidable argument for it.
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Sep 24, 2011
 
Gay press promotes sex with children

Baldwin says his research not only "confirms that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals," but it found that "the mainstream homosexual culture" even "commonly promotes sex with children."
"The editorial board of the leading pedophile academic journal, Paidika, is dominated by prominent homosexual scholars such as San Francisco State University professor John DeCecco, who happens to edit the Journal of Homosexuality," Baldwin wrote.
During his research, he also found:
The Journal of Homosexuality recently published a special double-issue entitled, "Male Intergenerational Intimacy," containing many articles portraying sex between men and minor boys as loving relationships. One article said parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son "not as a rival or competitor, not as a theft of their property, but as a partner in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home."
In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose.…" The article went onto say: "Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality … we must do it for the children's sake."
Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it."
In a study of advertisements in the influential homosexual newspaper, The Advocate, Reisman found ads for a "Penetrable Boy Doll … available in three provocative positions. She also found that the number of erotic boy images in each issue of The Advocate averaged 14.
Homosexual newspapers and travel publications advertise prominently for countries where boy prostitution is heavy, such as Burma, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Thailand.
Homosexuality 'youth-oriented'?
"Research on the homosexual lifestyle confirms it is almost exclusively a youth-oriented culture," Baldwin wrote. "Very few gays exhibit preference for older men."
"Some admit to focus on teenage boys," he said, "some on prepubescent boys, and many cross over between categories."
A 1988 study detailed in Baldwin's report found that most pedophiles even consider themselves to be "gay." According to the study, "Archives of Sexual Behavior," some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Also, the study found, the number of teenage male prostitutes who identify as homosexuals has risen from 10 percent to 60 percent in the past 15 years.
When asked what he thought about critics who attempt to debunk his research, Baldwin said the results speak for themselves.
"For them to say this theory is false is to call many of the homosexual movement's leaders liars," he said. "Most of my evidence comes right from the gay community."
Lonnie

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Sep 24, 2011
 
Lesbian Couple Guilty of Gruesome Murder

4-year old killed for refusing to call his mother's lesbian lover "daddy"

Four-year-old Jandre Botha refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "daddy" - and paid with his life.

Jandre's father, Jan Botha, was in the Vereeniging regional court's public gallery on Wednesday when his former wife, Hanelie Botha, 31, and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guilty of the gruesome murder of his son.

He sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, and listened attentively to magistrate Rita Willemse, who, in her judgment, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "daddy".

The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "daddy".
'His mother should have been aware of this'

Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed to intervene or protect him. Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

Delivering judgment, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy obtained his injuries after he had slipped in the bath.

The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen. The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.
'She did nothing to protect her own child'

Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there was substantial medical evidence before her about the nature of the injuries suffered by Jandre.

"I accept the evidence of the medical personnel who are experts in their fields. There were substantial documents placed before me. Most of them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years.

"All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and were unanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period of time.

"It is unthinkable that the mother of the child could not have known about these fatal injuries. The deceased also had broken legs, and his mother should have been aware of this."

The magistrate criticised Hanelie for failing to report Jandre's abuse at the hands of her lover to the social workers monitoring Jandre's progress, after she had gained custody of him during a lengthy court battle with her ex-husband. She also failed to report the abuse to her ex-husband.

The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of his death, June 12, 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre had fallen earlier in the day and had died.

Willemse criticised Hanelie's fitness to be a mother, saying her parents later approached her ex-husband and gave him financial help to fight for the custody of his child.

Rebuking Hanelie, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She was well aware of Engeline's violent outburst.

"She could have called the child's father for help but she failed to do so. She did nothing to protect her own child."

The magistrate labelled Engeline a liar and a hopeless witness who had contradicted herself in testimony.

Hanelie and De Nysschen were further convicted of assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide or seek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.
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Sep 25, 2011
 
is a gay queer straight?
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Chattanooga, TN

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Sep 29, 2011
 
i am a gay man with 19 1/2 years with my partner and we seen so many straight couples get married and devorced so many times .this is sad that some one whom loves each other cant have the same benifits as the straights
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Sep 29, 2011
 
Anonomous Citizen wrote:
It's not natural in any means...sorry gays..but keep it to yourselves..our churches shouldn't be used nor our vows...Why don't you make up your marriage like you do your personalities?
i sorry but just wanted to let u know that it it christians like u that have killed and caused so much false pain with all ur lies and bigatry. please learn ur bible it said not to place judgment or yet ye be judged. that is all i can and will say to some one miss informed.
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Sep 29, 2011
 
i am also sorry but just wanted to let u know that it it christians like u that have killed and caused so much false pain with all ur lies and bigatry. please learn ur bible it said not to place judgment or yet ye be judged. that is all i can and will say to some one miss informed.
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Oct 1, 2011
 
ashton wrote:
i am also sorry but just wanted to let u know that it it christians like u that have killed and caused so much false pain with all ur lies and bigatry. please learn ur bible it said not to place judgment or yet ye be judged. that is all i can and will say to some one miss informed.
exactly thank you for saying that
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Chattanooga, TN

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Oct 3, 2011
 
Anonomous Citizen wrote:
It's not natural in any means...sorry gays..but keep it to yourselves..our churches shouldn't be used nor our vows...Why don't you make up your marriage like you do your personalities?
Sorry idiotic bigot but your Church will never be forced to marry gay people. Gay people get married all the time in TN and always have been allowed to marry. Marriage is nothing more than a religious ceremony which is not legal for ANYONE.

The constitution is the most secular on the planet and marriage is not in it. That document people get to be legally married comes from the courthouse and is a civil document.

Gays have just as much right to that civil union as anyone else and they will in fact have it in TN under Federal Law in the near future even if the National Guard has to come in to enforce it like it did when blacks got civil rights!

There is no such thing as a traditional marriage unless you go by a bible based marriage which is one man and as many wives at any age he wants.

The Baptist Church, Catholic Church and others are protected and will never be forced to marry anyone they do not want to marry.

Gay marriage takes nothing away from heterosexual marriage and in fact, it is a wonderful thing that people should be encouraging gays into!

As it is now in TN, a gay person can be refused a job, housing, food and just about everything else based on sexual orientation legally.

Because I know this fact, I own apartments and many homes that I rent out and I use the law in reverse. If a heterosexual couple shows up, I tell them that I do not rent to heterosexuals. There is nothing they can do about it legally and I will continue to do this until gays have civil rights. We gays have more money than you because we are a whole lot smarter and a whole lot more educated! We earn many times as much money as you and we often do it by starting our own businesses. I will NOT hire heterosexuals until gays cannot be turned down a job based on sexual orientation.

If you came around, you would get nothing from me and I would not even speak to you because you are worse than a bad dog. Whatever you do, DO NOT BREED! The last thing we need are more ignorant homophobic kids that go in direct contrast to science like hick parents.
Gays can be married in all these Churches in each State and many more so start educating yourself you foolish freak teabagger.

http://www.gaychurch.org/Find_a_Church/united...
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Chattanooga, TN

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Oct 3, 2011
 
ashton wrote:
i am a gay man with 19 1/2 years with my partner and we seen so many straight couples get married and devorced so many times .this is sad that some one whom loves each other cant have the same benifits as the straights
Don't worry. Civil Union is coming soon on the Federal level. People that have voted on this on both sides are wrong because it is unconstitutional to have a public vote on civil rights. Those votes will be thrown out and once Federal Law passes there will be a few States like TN that will not like it and might need to be forced by the National Guard at first but you can get married right here in TN now. The legal part is coming within four years so don't you worry. We older gay people have been fighting for this since the 60s and the time is almost here. You younger people have been fighting for civil rights too and you will be the ones that will have them.

Just ignore the homophobes. They think everyone was born bi sexual and that they made a choice to be heterosexual. That is the only way they can think if they say gays make a choice because if gays do then so does everyone but science proves them wrong. Do a Google search on the gay brain and see for sure how normal sexual orientation is.

Pedophilia btw, is NOT a sexual orientation and heterosexual males are the most likely to suffer from that devastating illness that harms society but gays get thrown in there with pedophilia by bigots all the time and especially here in TN where College graduation rates are amongst the lowest in the nation insofar as Master’s Degrees.

Just hold on and do not give up hope. If you are a gay Christian then pray on the topic. Jesus himself was a gay man who was fully man and fully God at the same time. Gays are the chosen people.

Homophobes go to Hell unless they repent. Jerry Falwell is there now.
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Oct 3, 2011
 
Mjh this Lonnie guy is probably freaked out because he has gay feelings why else would he be so obsessive over the topic? He isn't getting to me with his posts that hiv is a gay disease and we that are gay are all child monsters. He is an idiot. I'm a proud gay Christian.
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Chattanooga, TN

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Oct 3, 2011
 
Let God sort them out.

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