Farm Chores Debate - Troy, MO

Lets make a deal wrote:

How about we do away with all the farmers tax breaks and tax paid price supports?
You get government money, you get government regulations.

County Gal wrote:

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Really,
Our family has a beef cattle operations I do not get any goverment money or support and this would effect me and my family and my grandchildren. No more watching a calf being born, helping put hay out for the cattle to eat, no more helping and learning what it take to raise a calf and show them. All of this teaches kids responsibility. Why should this be taken from them. AS i said. I DO NOT TAKE ANY GOVERMENT MONEY AND MY CATTLE PRICES ARE NOT FIXED. You need to get your facts straight.

Not so wrote:

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Yes you do take government money. You gladly take tax credits and reduced property tax rates which are compensated by higher personal and residential property taxes. On your income tax form, you take farm credits. You operate the family farm as a business do you not? My employer doesn't get tax breaks like you do...in fact pays 3 times the taxes as you do.
And the prices we charge have to be competitive, and are not supported by government funds and price support.
You get your facts straight...go look at your tax return.

Not so wrote:

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Yes you do take government money. You gladly take tax credits and reduced property tax rates which are compensated by higher personal and residential property taxes. On your income tax form, you take farm credits. You operate the family farm as a business do you not? My employer doesn't get tax breaks like you do...in fact pays 3 times the taxes as you do.
And the prices we charge have to be competitive, and are not supported by government funds and price support.
You get your facts straight...go look at your tax return.

carbon wrote:

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NEVER EVER EVER gripe about a farmer if you have cloth clothes on your back or food in your belly. If you or your children ate ANYTHING today, say Thank YOU American Farmer. Thank them for your life, because without farms and the back breaking, sweaty, heart-aching work that farmers and their WHOLE families do, everyone in the wide whole world would be in some serious trouble.
Farming is a job that should be given the utmost respect and farmers deserve to be treated with dignity. A farmer can work all season, 16 hour days, in the heat and cold and rain and mud. fighting with 1300 lb steers. slopping through the beyond belief stench of a hog floor. The lung crushing density of a chicken house. the stingy, sweaty, sticky residue of soybeans, the sharp leftovers of wheat chaff and milo, and in maybe 5 minutes have ll his work and sweat and heart and soul destroyed by a hail storm, or locusts, or shattercane. or God forbid, no rain, or too much rain. They do this because the land is part of their soul, They hold that dirt in the palm of their hand and KNOW what nature intended. They watch the crops grow and know that they are providing a future and life and sustenance for not only their own families, but others. There is no modern civilization without agriculture.
I dare you to spend one week without utilizing ANYTHING that any farmer has provided you. Look at your clothes and your food and even your medications and your toiletries.
Don't cuss a farmer, Thank one.

Not so wrote:

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I don't cuss a farmer, I thank one each time I pay the bill at the grocery store.....just like you should thank me each time you go to the bank and see that your money is safe, and each time you use a credit or debit card and your transaction is secure, and each time you turn on the lights and electricity flows, and each time you watch tv or listen to the radio or play your cd player or use your computer. Why? Because I am a mathemetician and my job is to see that all the digital items you take for granted work.

carbon wrote:

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NEVER EVER EVER gripe about a farmer if you have cloth clothes on your back or food in your belly. If you or your children ate ANYTHING today, say Thank YOU American Farmer. Thank them for your life, because without farms and the back breaking, sweaty, heart-aching work that farmers and their WHOLE families do, everyone in the wide whole world would be in some serious trouble.
Farming is a job that should be given the utmost respect and farmers deserve to be treated with dignity. A farmer can work all season, 16 hour days, in the heat and cold and rain and mud. fighting with 1300 lb steers. slopping through the beyond belief stench of a hog floor. The lung crushing density of a chicken house. the stingy, sweaty, sticky residue of soybeans, the sharp leftovers of wheat chaff and milo, and in maybe 5 minutes have ll his work and sweat and heart and soul destroyed by a hail storm, or locusts, or shattercane. or God forbid, no rain, or too much rain. They do this because the land is part of their soul, They hold that dirt in the palm of their hand and KNOW what nature intended. They watch the crops grow and know that they are providing a future and life and sustenance for not only their own families, but others. There is no modern civilization without agriculture.
I dare you to spend one week without utilizing ANYTHING that any farmer has provided you. Look at your clothes and your food and even your medications and your toiletries.
Don't cuss a farmer, Thank one.