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Farm Chores Debate - Ashland, KY

Discuss the national Farm Chores debate in Ashland, KY.

Should we regulate farm chores as child labor, or should it be up to the parents?

Ashland wants to let parents decide.
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reform

Greenup, KY

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#1
Apr 27, 2012
 
gov.control from womb to tomb!a communist,marxis socialist utopia!they already endoctrinate in public schools!

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Since: Jun 11

Kurya, Altai region, Russia

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#2
Apr 28, 2012
 
Make the little tikes labor like slaves...
LibertarianToo

Ashland, KY

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Apr 28, 2012
 
The fact that our officials are bold enough to attempt such a thing tells me that we desperately need a cleansing. Pathetic.
Concerned

Ashland, KY

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#4
Apr 29, 2012
 
Its called teaching responsibility, accountability and building character! Pretty much everything many kids are missing now a days!!!
love

Ashland, KY

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#5
May 1, 2012
 
i worked on a farm
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Ashland, KY

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#6
May 1, 2012
 
Put a shovel or a set of post hole diggers or basically any tool that requires an effort in these kids hands today and the damn look on their face says it all:(
Kid joe

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May 1, 2012
 
If you can hire someone to mow your lawn, wash your clothes, do your dishes, and help you fix your engine, you should have to pay your kids a competitive wage and benefits.
LibertarianToo

Ashland, KY

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May 2, 2012
 
Kid joe wrote:
If you can hire someone to mow your lawn, wash your clothes, do your dishes, and help you fix your engine, you should have to pay your kids a competitive wage and benefits.
Seriously? A competitive wage and benefits? I gues the last time my kid went to the doctor it was pretty tough on him trying to pay that medical bill. Oh wait, I pay my kids medical bills. Still though, they have to eat and be sheltered and have clothes to wear. Oh wait, I provide all of that for my kids too. You do realize that there is a benefit to instiling values in your children, right?
well

Chesapeake, OH

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May 2, 2012
 
Kid joe wrote:
If you can hire someone to mow your lawn, wash your clothes, do your dishes, and help you fix your engine, you should have to pay your kids a competitive wage and benefits.
You're a moron. Don't ever expect to make more than minimum wage.
Kid Joe

Ashland, KY

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May 3, 2012
 
LibertarianToo wrote:
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I pay my kids medical bills. Still though, they have to eat and be sheltered and have clothes to wear. Oh wait, I provide all of that for my kids too.
The threat of starvation forces those without property to work for wages?

Your children have the most terrible, the most imperious of masters, that is, need. They must therefore find someone to hire them, or die of hunger, sickness, or exposure, a system of slavery as absolute if not as degrading as that which existed in the South!
The only difference is that they are hired slaves instead of block slaves!

The wage slave must sell himself daily and hourly. The individual slave, sold once and for all, property of one master, is assured an existence, however miserable it may be, because of the master's interest. The individual wage slave, property as it were of the entire upper class which buys his labor only when someone has need of it, has no secure existence.
Since slavery was abolished, human earning power is forbidden by law to be capitalized. A man is not even free to sell himself; he must rent himself at a wage!

whatever does not spring from a man's free choice, or is only the result of instruction and guidance, does not enter into his very nature; he does not identify with it, or respect it or perform it with truly human energies, but merely with insincere, mechanical exactness, and so when the laborer works under external control, we may admire what he does, but we despise what he is.

Wage slavery implies erosion of the human personality because some men submit to the will of others, arousing in these instincts which predispose them to cruelty and indifference in the face of the suffering of their fellows!

Those who work in the mills should own them.
LibertarianToo

Monson, MA

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May 3, 2012
 
Kid Joe wrote:
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The threat of starvation forces those without property to work for wages?
Your children have the most terrible, the most imperious of masters, that is, need. They must therefore find someone to hire them, or die of hunger, sickness, or exposure, a system of slavery as absolute if not as degrading as that which existed in the South!
The only difference is that they are hired slaves instead of block slaves!
The wage slave must sell himself daily and hourly. The individual slave, sold once and for all, property of one master, is assured an existence, however miserable it may be, because of the master's interest. The individual wage slave, property as it were of the entire upper class which buys his labor only when someone has need of it, has no secure existence.
Since slavery was abolished, human earning power is forbidden by law to be capitalized. A man is not even free to sell himself; he must rent himself at a wage!
whatever does not spring from a man's free choice, or is only the result of instruction and guidance, does not enter into his very nature; he does not identify with it, or respect it or perform it with truly human energies, but merely with insincere, mechanical exactness, and so when the laborer works under external control, we may admire what he does, but we despise what he is.
Wage slavery implies erosion of the human personality because some men submit to the will of others, arousing in these instincts which predispose them to cruelty and indifference in the face of the suffering of their fellows!
Those who work in the mills should own them.
Congratulations on this very philosophical argument. I don't disagree with you entirely; however, within your argument lies a fairly obvious fallacy: man and child are not "one and the same".

Children are very impressionable creatures unlike man. So while I believe you are correct In your assessment that "whatever does not spring from a man's free choice, or is only the result of instruction and guidance, does not enter into his very nature; he does not identify with it, or respect it or perform it with truly human energies, but merely with insincere, mechanical exactness". It does not apply to children. Nice try though.
well

Chesapeake, OH

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May 3, 2012
 
Kid Joe wrote:
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The threat of starvation forces those without property to work for wages?
Your children have the most terrible, the most imperious of masters, that is, need. They must therefore find someone to hire them, or die of hunger, sickness, or exposure, a system of slavery as absolute if not as degrading as that which existed in the South!
The only difference is that they are hired slaves instead of block slaves!
The wage slave must sell himself daily and hourly. The individual slave, sold once and for all, property of one master, is assured an existence, however miserable it may be, because of the master's interest. The individual wage slave, property as it were of the entire upper class which buys his labor only when someone has need of it, has no secure existence.
Since slavery was abolished, human earning power is forbidden by law to be capitalized. A man is not even free to sell himself; he must rent himself at a wage!
whatever does not spring from a man's free choice, or is only the result of instruction and guidance, does not enter into his very nature; he does not identify with it, or respect it or perform it with truly human energies, but merely with insincere, mechanical exactness, and so when the laborer works under external control, we may admire what he does, but we despise what he is.
Wage slavery implies erosion of the human personality because some men submit to the will of others, arousing in these instincts which predispose them to cruelty and indifference in the face of the suffering of their fellows!
Those who work in the mills should own them.
It's called "LIFE" and you're still a moron.
cj

Chesapeake, OH

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#13
May 8, 2012
 
It should be up to the parents along with Kids. And as long as the parents don't abuse it. abuse it. Kids need to know how to do farm work.
Reese

Ashland, KY

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#14
May 10, 2012
 
thats why kids are lazy now paretns dont make them do anything! and if they do...??? then they are not allowed??
Dr Bob

Ashland, KY

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#15
May 10, 2012
 
I believe if you are in poverty, or are convicted criminals, or test positive for illegal drugs or supplements, or are unemployed, or have no family or church, your child should be placed into a State home, until he/she becomes old enough to join the military, or completes a period of incarceration in a Christian juvenile work facility like the Ramey Home, and completes some community service.
If the child cannot conform by the time they become an adult, they should be moved directly to a private prison work camp where they can help support society through labor, until such time as they earn their freedom and citizenship.
LibertarianToo

Ashland, KY

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#17
May 10, 2012
 
Dr Bob wrote:
I believe if you are in poverty, or are convicted criminals, or test positive for illegal drugs or supplements, or are unemployed, or have no family or church, your child should be placed into a State home, until he/she becomes old enough to join the military, or completes a period of incarceration in a Christian juvenile work facility like the Ramey Home, and completes some community service.
If the child cannot conform by the time they become an adult, they should be moved directly to a private prison work camp where they can help support society through labor, until such time as they earn their freedom and citizenship.
I believe you have every right to think that way but I am thankful that there aren't enough idiots like you to make this a reality.

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