Faith & Politics Debate - Indianapolis, IN

not an issue.

It is obvious Ron Paul was robbed in Iowa with the secret ballot counting at an undiclosed location. Where did this Rick Santorum vote split come from all of a sudden, this guy was in last place till a few days ago -what a fraud!

Like Obama, Mitt Romney supports the NDAA and SOPA; since he's dodging questions about it he obvioulsy supports it. The NDAA states Americans can now be rounded up and taken to detention centers indefinitely without trial for criticizing the government or banking ellites.

SOPA is a mainland China style censorship of internet free speech. For instance not allowing people to post anything with a link to a youtube clip or news article exposing the government or ellites. This will be very convenient when the government finally starts rounding up people.

We need to get this slimey worm Romney to give a thumbs up or thumbs down on the Natinal Defense Authorization Act since he'll never do it willingly. The banker establishment knows Romney is another easy win for Obama just like McCain was. That's why they need Romney to stay in the race -they know he will loose.

The ellite establishment and their mainstream media puppets are so threatened by Ron Paul they are often not even allowed to mention him by name. Ron Paul is Lord Voldemort to the Nazi ellites. These mainstream media zombie clowns are so transparant now in their deliberate avoidance of Ron Paul it would be comical if it wasn't so scary.

This staged Iowa farce was a beta test for stealing the national election if Ron Paul is forced to run third party. He will be forced to run third party if Iowa remains uncontested.

This is a repeat of how the international bankers transformed a prosperous normal Germany into Nazi Germany. The ellites are completely out of touch with reality to be trying to pull this off in America while we have the internet and the second ammendmant still in place.

Please bookmark/listen to Alex Jones just once -Download a podcast and just listen. Nazi Germany would have been averted if this guy had been around back then broadcasting over the internet and airwaves.

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

If you love America defend it from the offshore funded revolutionaries trying to overthrow us presently. We must take back America non-violently so our banker bought illegitimate federal government is not given a reason to declare martial law.

Remember the international banking ellites call the shots now, not the government. That's how they continue to get away with all their flagrant crime and corruption without facing any jail time.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

This is my humble opinion on today's events -I'm doing my small part to get the word out on the net so I can tell my grandkids I didn't just sit back when the offshore ellites tried to weaken and destroy America from within. I am not religious, but this whole situation is starting to make me believe there is a hell as the people destroying America are acting like demonic devils.

If we wait much longer we won't be able to kick the offshore ellites out without force. The U.S. military may start a revolution before we do -they know what is going on and are no longer putting up with this.

Many of my posts are now being censored by Topix. I always have to wonder which link triggered the deletion of the post. Topix is great, but the government is destroying it because people will lose interest in Topix if it is obviously censored. Maybe that's the plan.

This is how the tyranny slowly spreads and takes over -boiling that frog a little at a time.

President Obama has more integrity in his little finger than any of the rest have in their whole body.

Banker Red Dawn Is Here wrote:

It is obvious Ron Paul was robbed in Iowa with the secret ballot counting at an undiclosed location. Where did this Rick Santorum vote split come from all of a sudden, this guy was in last place till a few days ago -what a fraud!
Like Obama, Mitt Romney supports the NDAA and SOPA; since he's dodging questions about it he obvioulsy supports it. The NDAA states Americans can now be rounded up and taken to detention centers indefinitely without trial for criticizing the government or banking ellites.
SOPA is a mainland China style censorship of internet free speech. For instance not allowing people to post anything with a link to a youtube clip or news article exposing the government or ellites. This will be very convenient when the government finally starts rounding up people.
We need to get this slimey worm Romney to give a thumbs up or thumbs down on the Natinal Defense Authorization Act since he'll never do it willingly. The banker establishment knows Romney is another easy win for Obama just like McCain was. That's why they need Romney to stay in the race -they know he will loose.
The ellite establishment and their mainstream media puppets are so threatened by Ron Paul they are often not even allowed to mention him by name. Ron Paul is Lord Voldemort to the Nazi ellites. These mainstream media zombie clowns are so transparant now in their deliberate avoidance of Ron Paul it would be comical if it wasn't so scary.
This staged Iowa farce was a beta test for stealing the national election if Ron Paul is forced to run third party. He will be forced to run third party if Iowa remains uncontested.
This is a repeat of how the international bankers transformed a prosperous normal Germany into Nazi Germany. The ellites are completely out of touch with reality to be trying to pull this off in America while we have the internet and the second ammendmant still in place.
Please bookmark/listen to Alex Jones just once -Download a podcast and just listen. Nazi Germany would have been averted if this guy had been around back then broadcasting over the internet and airwaves.
http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss
If you love America defend it from the offshore funded revolutionaries trying to overthrow us presently. We must take back America non-violently so our banker bought illegitimate federal government is not given a reason to declare martial law.
Remember the international banking ellites call the shots now, not the government. That's how they continue to get away with all their flagrant crime and corruption without facing any jail time.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
This is my humble opinion on today's events -I'm doing my small part to get the word out on the net so I can tell my grandkids I didn't just sit back when the offshore ellites tried to weaken and destroy America from within. I am not religious, but this whole situation is starting to make me believe there is a hell as the people destroying America are acting like demonic devils.
If we wait much longer we won't be able to kick the offshore ellites out without force. The U.S. military may start a revolution before we do -they know what is going on and are no longer putting up with this.
Many of my posts are now being censored by Topix. I always have to wonder which link triggered the deletion of the post. Topix is great, but the government is destroying it because people will lose interest in Topix if it is obviously censored. Maybe that's the plan.
This is how the tyranny slowly spreads and takes over -boiling that frog a little at a time.

I don't understand why people out of touch with reality have so much say in the lives of intelligent, grounded realistic people. People who have to have a fantasy to get through life have way to much say in politics in this country. The day will come when those people will no longer be able to impose their will on rational Americans and I can't wait!

Banker Red Dawn Is Here wrote:

It is obvious Ron Paul was robbed in Iowa with the secret ballot counting at an undiclosed location. Where did this Rick Santorum vote split come from all of a sudden, this guy was in last place till a few days ago -what a fraud!
Like Obama, Mitt Romney supports the NDAA and SOPA; since he's dodging questions about it he obvioulsy supports it. The NDAA states Americans can now be rounded up and taken to detention centers indefinitely without trial for criticizing the government or banking ellites.
SOPA is a mainland China style censorship of internet free speech. For instance not allowing people to post anything with a link to a youtube clip or news article exposing the government or ellites. This will be very convenient when the government finally starts rounding up people.
We need to get this slimey worm Romney to give a thumbs up or thumbs down on the Natinal Defense Authorization Act since he'll never do it willingly. The banker establishment knows Romney is another easy win for Obama just like McCain was. That's why they need Romney to stay in the race -they know he will loose.
The ellite establishment and their mainstream media puppets are so threatened by Ron Paul they are often not even allowed to mention him by name. Ron Paul is Lord Voldemort to the Nazi ellites. These mainstream media zombie clowns are so transparant now in their deliberate avoidance of Ron Paul it would be comical if it wasn't so scary.
This staged Iowa farce was a beta test for stealing the national election if Ron Paul is forced to run third party. He will be forced to run third party if Iowa remains uncontested.
This is a repeat of how the international bankers transformed a prosperous normal Germany into Nazi Germany. The ellites are completely out of touch with reality to be trying to pull this off in America while we have the internet and the second ammendmant still in place.
Please bookmark/listen to Alex Jones just once -Download a podcast and just listen. Nazi Germany would have been averted if this guy had been around back then broadcasting over the internet and airwaves.
http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss
If you love America defend it from the offshore funded revolutionaries trying to overthrow us presently. We must take back America non-violently so our banker bought illegitimate federal government is not given a reason to declare martial law.
Remember the international banking ellites call the shots now, not the government. That's how they continue to get away with all their flagrant crime and corruption without facing any jail time.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
This is my humble opinion on today's events -I'm doing my small part to get the word out on the net so I can tell my grandkids I that frog a little at a time.

I don't understand why people out of touch with reality have so much say in the lives of intelligent, grounded realistic people. People who have to have a fantasy to get through life have way to much say in politics in this country. The day will come when those people will no longer be able to impose their will on rational Americans and I can't wait!

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Grey-Haired Brigade
They like to refer to us as senior citizens, old fogies, geezers, and in some cases dinosaurs. Some of us are "Baby Boomers" getting ready to retire. Others have been retired for some time. We walk a little slower these days and our eyes and hearing are not what they once were. We have worked hard, raised our children, worshiped our God and grown old together. Yes, we are the ones some refer to as being over the hill, and that is probably true. But before writing us off completely, there are a few things that need to be taken into consideration.
In school we studied English, history, math, and science which enabled us to lead America into the technological age. Most of us remember what outhouses were, many of us with firsthand experience. We remember the days of telephone party-lines, 25 cent gasoline, and milk and ice being delivered to our homes. For those of you who don't know what an icebox is, today they are electric and referred to as refrigerators. A few even remember when cars were started with a crank. Yes, we lived those days.
We are probably considered old fashioned and out-dated by many. But there are a few things you need to remember before completely writing us off. We won World War II, fought in Korea and Viet Nam . We can quote The Pledge of Allegiance, and know where to place our hand while doing so. We wore the uniform of our country with pride and lost many friends on the battlefield. We didn't fight for the Socialist States of America , we fought for the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave." We wore different uniforms but carried the same flag. We know the words to the Star Spangled Banner, America ,and America the Beautiful by heart, and you may even see some tears running down our cheeks as we sing. We have lived what many of you have only read about in history books and we feel no obligation to apologize to anyone for America .
Yes, we are old and slow these days but rest assured, we have at least one good fight left in us. We have loved this country, fought for it, and died for it, and now we are going to save it. It is our country and nobody is going to take it away from us. We took oaths to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that is an oath we plan to keep. There are those who want to destroy this land we love but, like our founders, there is no way we are going to remain silent.
It was mostly the young people of this nation who elected Obama and the Democratic Congress. You fell for the "Hope and Change" which in reality was nothing but "Hype and Lies." You have tasted socialism and seen evil face to face, and have found you don't like it after all. You make a lot of noise, but most are all too interested in their careers or "Climbing the Social Ladder" to be involved in such mundane things as patriotism and voting. Many of those who fell for the "Great Lie" in 2008 are now having buyer's remorse. With all the education we gave you, you didn't have sense enough to see through the lies and instead drank the 'Cool-Aid.' Now you're paying the price and complaining about it. No jobs, lost mortgages, higher taxes, and less freedom. This is what you voted for and this is what you got. We entrusted you with the Torch of Liberty and you traded it for a paycheck and a fancy house.
Well, don't worry youngsters, the Grey-Haired Brigade is here, and in 2012 we are going to take back our nation. We may drive a little slower than you would like but we get where we're going, and in 2012 we're going to the polls by the millions. This land does not belong to the man in the White House nor to the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. It belongs to "We the People" and "We the People" plan to reclaim our land and our freedom. We hope this time you will do a better job of preserving it and passing it along to our grandchildren.

My goodness! Such yelling!

Not one worth voting for.

"If you believe in judgement day I have to seriously question your judgement."

Bill Maher

The easiest way to lose my vote is to answer the question of "Why should I vote for you" with a statement about your religion.
Touting a religion does not make a person moral or ethical, not professing a religion does not make a person unethical or immoral.
Not one of the GOP candidates come close to representing what the United States needs.

It’s either Romney or The Dictator a.k.a (Blank check Barry Obama)
It’s a 2 man race now so get over the PRIMAY.

Repost from another city forum:

None of the polls mean s**t right now. Once people realize that Ron Paul and the others have no chance; the real race begins. People who are deciding on a candidate based on religion or other bull**t; are as out-of-touch as the Jew hating Obama is. We have no time to focus on little bits and pieces of the social issues like birth control. If we don’t turn this ship around soon people (millions more) will be begging for food and birth control won’t taste very good. Romney is the only person running who know’s how to fix the economy and isn’t filled with Washington Lobbyists in his pocket. He also is the only one with balls to speak out on China raping us. Romney has made mistakes but he is true to his word and will help this country 1000% more than Obama.

Mitt earned all his money and didn’t get it from his father. Look this up…. Romney donated all his inheritance from his father!!Obama gave 1% of his income before becoming POTUS. So a lib didn’t redistribute very much of his money but writes blank checks with ours. That says a lot about a man‘s character.

Mitt also wants us to keep are military strong while others are trying to strip it. That’s the reason why Ron Paul has failed because most people realize that N. Korea, China, and the mid east countries are hell bent on power. Any of those countries would try to take us over if we get weak. They all have nukes and Iran is very close. The people who think Iran won’t use them and start WW3 are f**king insane. If the 911 hijackers would have had the Nuke bombs in suit cases, New York would be gone. We and a few other countries have portable nukes that size and within 50 years, the mid east countries will to. Ron Paul is great for protecting our rights but he is on another planet with defense.

Santorum lost his own state running for the Senate. He also is a career Washington Tool and said at a debate that he voted to support the team. Even though he didn’t agree with a bill he still caved to Washington Insider pressure. He’s a fake joke and is only running because he doesn’t want to go back to being a lawyer and have to work hard.

Obama didn’t just throw his father figure ( Jew&white hater Rev. Wright) under the bus, he threw half his supporters under the bus. So, most Independents and some Dems will jump ship. Now is the time to except the fact that Romney is the nominee based on the numbers and we have to unite.

By the way, I have always been an independent before the radical libs brought a Jihad upon our rights and economy.

No More Primary Gossip wrote:

Propaganda Spammed from another forum

Lies dismissed.

We need a hitler...instead of jews should be blacks...republican party is the closest to hitler so im voting republican....organised religion is a farce, the largest cult of crazies the world has seen

shove religion

Dogen wrote:

not an issue.

as long as they are christian

shalom.

tennesseevolsfan wrote:

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as long as they are christian

Nope. That doesn't matter in the least to any EDUCATED voter.