Election Poll, June 2012 Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

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Important -Search "They Live moment of revelation" on Youtube if the above clip stops working.

If this was real what would you do? If there were really aliens that saw us as dumb expendable animals would you just sit back and take their abuse. Would it make any difference if "they" were a small group of people known as the illuminati?

The movie "They Live" made in the 1980's predicted everything that has happened and will probably come to pass in terms of citizen surveillance, drones, and pyschological warfare in America. Watch the whole movie.

The same thing that happened to Nazi Germany when the citizenry embraced Nazism is happening to us. The populace was dumbed down and manipuated by the illuminati and their bought out politicians and media into being a prideful yet mindless war machine. When the illuminati were done with Germany they were left a defeated, bankrupt and villified nation. No one gives a crap today when the German people say they were lead astray by their bought out politicians. The world is simply glad that in the end they got what they deserved.

America is heading down the same path. We used to be the beacon of freedom to the world but now our country has become a modern day Nazi Germany war machine starting unprovoked wars across the globe. Many people now spit at us when we visit their countries like we are villains.

If and when we are weakened internally/financially to the point that we leave ourselves open to military attack by countries like Russia and China people will cheer our demise. We have become the bad guys because we presently ALLOW a psychopathic offshore banking cartel to run our country through bought off politicians.

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That Three Stooges clip sums up the illuminatis mindset very well -our last few Presidents have acted just like dictators.

Occupy Wall Street was started by the illuminati to weaken America and take the focus off them when the global economic collapse occurs. It then got out of control because people started focusing in on the private Federal Reserve. Now the illuminati is trying to clamp down on this movement because we are focusing on them and they are extremely nervous.

Wallstreet and the banks are a symptom of a greater problem. There is nothing wrong with capitalism or corporations however what we now have is crony capitalism, not true capitalism. We must swarm Washington DC and the 12 Federal Reserve Bank locations in the U.S. with massive demonstrations if we are going to take our country back. Any Occupy Wallstreet movement outside of Washington DC or the 12 Federal Reserve Bank locations is a distraction designed to keep the movement fractionalized. We must occupy the main problem, not the symptoms.

Never take freedom for granted. If you love America defend it today by getting informed and taking this country back for Americans. We WILL prevail because clearly Americans aren't going to put up with this shit any longer. The time is now.

This one show explains everything going on. It will change your life when you see how the mainstream media is manipulating us like cattle using the political Left Vs Right paradigm. Download the podcasts and listen.

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

This is our reality:

http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-docum...

http://www.infowars.com/pentagon-launches-des...

Here's my take on it. Don't be afraid to speak out as we are all on some type of list by now:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

You have to understand that free speech on the net is about to be clamped down on in America -mainland China style. Get the sunglasses and spread the word before it's too late. Learn to spot/ignore government paid trolls.

Obama '12. 2 years from now I if Romney ends up in office I'm going to be saying I told you so.

Here are my reasons why:

This is Why I support Obama:

1)For 30 years I've heard politicans talking about health care reform, hes the first one to do something about it. The Affordable health care act removes restrictions on pre-existing conditions, makes health care more affordable for small businesses, raises the age at which children can be on their parent's policies, removes lifetime caps, and more. With the possible exception of insurance executives, who would not want these changes?
2) He ended the war in Iraq, and is drawing the war in Afghanistan to a close. Like he said he would.

3) He thinks women should have access to free preventative health care. Why is this still an issue?
4) He believes in equality for all people and signed the Lilly Led Better Fair Pay Act to help women get equal pay for equal work and the repeal of the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
5) He is promoting and investing in clean energy jobs. Finally.
6) He supports education by giving more flexibility to No Child Left Behind (thank you!) and by making college aid more available.
7) He thinks millionaires and billionaires should pay their fair share of taxes like the rest of us. Really this is a no brainer.
8) Despite inheriting one of the worst economic messes since the Great Depression, he added 2.6 million private sector jobs to our economy, and indications are that the economy is slowly improving. To anyone who thinks it's been too slow-don't you know you can't turn the Titanic around in a day?

I voted for him before and I will vote for him again.

Barack is a socialist communist, Romney is not, end of story

So you are about entitlements and what Obama can give you instead of staying free. Most of his supporters are like that.

By the way, turning your womb into a death chamber is not a woman's "right".

asdf wrote:

So you are about entitlements and what Obama can give you instead of staying free. Most of his supporters are like that.
By the way, turning your womb into a death chamber is not a woman's "right".

Its not about what Obama can give but what he has done. He has done what he said he was going to do. And whats it to you and my opinion about abortion thats a different topic. My main point is that it shouldn't be illegal but they can make exceptions but at the same time it is in our right since it is our bodies to decide what is best.

asdf wrote:

Barack is a socialist communist, Romney is not, end of story

Bingo!

Murder is not your right or your choice, we have laws against it.

Obama has done what he said he was going to do??? LOL!!!!!! Which time and which side of his face on what day?

BROvahqueen wrote:

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Its not about what Obama can give but what he has done. He has done what he said he was going to do. And whats it to you and my opinion about abortion thats a different topic. My main point is that it shouldn't be illegal but they can make exceptions but at the same time it is in our right since it is our bodies to decide what is best.

He needs to have cooperation from the Senate, and they aren't in any way supporting him right now....as a matter of fact, there are many people who are not either......he's President, so we should respect that.

I think you might mean the House, not the Senate. I'm glad they don't support his communist ways. They are the only thing keeping him from completely running this country into the ground.
What does it matter if they support him? If they don't do what he wants, he turns into King Obama and starts signing executive orders. He has made Congress irrelevant.

asdf wrote:

I think you might mean the House, not the Senate. I'm glad they don't support his communist ways. They are the only thing keeping him from completely running this country into the ground.
What does it matter if they support him? If they don't do what he wants, he turns into King Obama and starts signing executive orders. He has made Congress irrelevant.

I'm not too political,but even I can see this president has been a disaster.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he have a democratic majority in both the house and senate until the elections of 2010? That's how Obama care was passed, although by a slim margin?

That is correct. Then the people spoke in 2010, but not good enough. We should have taken the Senate too so Obama wouldn't keep pitting them against each other. The people we voted in in 2010 can't get anything done because we don't clean the Senate out too. Although, I do blame the House right now for not even discussing impeaching the Communist occupying our White House. There are probably 25 different impeachable offenses he has committed.

By the way, when Congress tells the President no, it means NO. It's called Checks and Balances. Our Constitution was written this way. It doesn't mean, hey, I don't like your answer, you can't tell me no, I'm just going to sign an executive order and do it without you. He has said those words himself several times that what Congress won't let him do, he will do it himself and he has done it. At least one executive order every week. That is a dictator, not a US President. He is not supposed to have the power to go around Congress or the Supreme Court.

asdf wrote:

By the way, when Congress tells the President no, it means NO. It's called Checks and Balances. Our Constitution was written this way. It doesn't mean, hey, I don't like your answer, you can't tell me no, I'm just going to sign an executive order and do it without you. He has said those words himself several times that what Congress won't let him do, he will do it himself and he has done it. At least one executive order every week. That is a dictator, not a US President. He is not supposed to have the power to go around Congress or the Supreme Court.

Thank you. I thought the GOP had the house. They'll regain the senate too. The country is hurting so badly, they will take any change that might equal a chance.
My point was, if I was correct, Obama had all of 2009 & a part of 2010 that he cannot blame on republican gridlock. Is that correct?
Now Bush II, and even Bush I, didn't they have a democratically controlled both house and senate? And that's why Bush II could not get the banks re-regulated after Clinton deregulated them during his second term? I'm not sure.
I understand the constitution and that the president cannot trump Congress or the Supreme Court. But the judges are presidential appointees, right? And I suspect the make up of congress may change also.
I love my country and I do believe it will reemerge as the world power and center of respect again.
The allegiance between Russia and parts of the mideast seem to be strengthening, and it just seems to me that if that continues it will take fortitude and funding that we don't have now to withstand their combined force.
But I don't receive newspapers and only watch the news once or twice a day. I enjoy the History and Discovery channel a bit too much probably.
I look around my neighborhood and the struggle all families are having, and I just know many will fail if the employment picture doesn't change. Too many pick ups in the drives on weekdays. Five years ago those men all were gone to work before sun up.
You are kind to enlighten me without condensation or insult. Sincerely.
Too much of that on here and you don't get intelligent answers.

Sorry. My lecture on the Constitution & Congress up there was not meant to be condescending to you lol It was basically for the next person that comes out and says "Well Obama HAD to sign executive orders. Congress isn't doing anything". Congress had done something. They told him NO and he has to accept it, not turn into King Obama and sign executive orders.

Yes, he had everything until 2010. That's how we ended up with socialist healthcare and a list of other things. Funny, it only took 2 years of this man in office to screw things up so badly that millions of voters showed up and "No more".

As for Republican Gridlock. These are buzz words Obama uses to blame Republicans for nothing getting done. We could also call it Democratic Gridlock since they won't do what the Republicans want. It goes both ways. Interesting picture of what the Senate is NOT doing http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

We have no one to blame but ourselves for this because we didn't give either side enough power.

Yep, his judges are appointed. That makes no sense that he gets to appoint them since they are supposed to be a checks and a balances system.

Interesting that almost everyone that he appoints has communist, socialist and/or terrorist ties.

Let's take a look at Obama's Obama Convicted Murdering Domestic Terrorist for his PR Work http://www.theblaze.com/stories/readymeet-sor...

Proof Barack Obama’s Ties to the Marxist Led New Party and “Progressive Chicago” http://www.trevorloudon.com/2012/06/barack-ob...

The proof is there, no one can argue it as a conspiracy theory.

The fiction and non-fiction of Obama http://www.theblaze.com/stories/part-one-the-...
and part 2 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/part-two-the-...

How anyone can read this and see who he puts around him and still votes for him, I have to question their sanity.

And you are welcome. I realize that a lot of people don't know the REAL things that are going on, only what media wants them to believe. You are actually way more informed than most! I would rather converse with people than argue needlessly with someone bc no one is listening.

Bystander wrote:

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Thank you. I thought the GOP had the house. They'll regain the senate too. The country is hurting so badly, they will take any change that might equal a chance.
My point was, if I was correct, Obama had all of 2009 & a part of 2010 that he cannot blame on republican gridlock. Is that correct?
Now Bush II, and even Bush I, didn't they have a democratically controlled both house and senate? And that's why Bush II could not get the banks re-regulated after Clinton deregulated them during his second term? I'm not sure.
I understand the constitution and that the president cannot trump Congress or the Supreme Court. But the judges are presidential appointees, right? And I suspect the make up of congress may change also.
I love my country and I do believe it will reemerge as the world power and center of respect again.
The allegiance between Russia and parts of the mideast seem to be strengthening, and it just seems to me that if that continues it will take fortitude and funding that we don't have now to withstand their combined force.
But I don't receive newspapers and only watch the news once or twice a day. I enjoy the History and Discovery channel a bit too much probably.
I look around my neighborhood and the struggle all families are having, and I just know many will fail if the employment picture doesn't change. Too many pick ups in the drives on weekdays. Five years ago those men all were gone to work before sun up.
You are kind to enlighten me without condensation or insult. Sincerely.
Too much of that on here and you don't get intelligent answers.

Interesting. I typed an entire post about Obama and have tried to post it 3 times and it will not post. Censor much Topix?

Hmm, it's there now.

asdf wrote:

Murder is not your right or your choice, we have laws against it.
Obama has done what he said he was going to do??? LOL!!!!!! Which time and which side of his face on what day?
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You make think its murder and it took you a century to reply. We don't have laws against abortion. In some states but not all. Laugh all you want at the president I'm not allowed to talk negatively about him or the future one. So I could care less what you think of them.

A century to reply? I don't sit on the internet all day waiting to jump on people. I have a life. You'll have to deal with it.

We have laws against murder. Abortion = murder. Uterus' are not death chambers.

I am not laughing at this president. There's nothing funny going on. It is so far past Obamacare and women's health care by now that those are tiny issues. This administration is downright scarey. You go ahead and vote him in for another 4 years and we'll see how you like "Change" Queen. Go ahead and give him a green light to finish what he has started. He won't need to worry about lying every day about it after that because he won't be trying to win another re-election. THE MAN HAS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD WORKING IN OUR HOMELAND SECURITY. DOES THAT SEND OFF ANY BELLS IN ANYONE'S HEAD? That is like the fox watching the hen house!

Queen I don't know you so I have to ask this. Are you a homosexual male? Is that what your name means or am I just misinterpreting? I don't care whether you are or not, I'm just curious, bc if you are, do you know what Muslims do to homosexuals?

Take a look at the people in this administration.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/want-to-know-...

asdf wrote:

Sorry. My lecture on the Constitution & Congress up there was not meant to be condescending to you lol It was basically for the next person that comes out and says "Well Obama HAD to sign executive orders. Congress isn't doing anything". Congress had done something. They told him NO and he has to accept it, not turn into King Obama and sign executive orders.
Yes, he had everything until 2010. That's how we ended up with socialist healthcare and a list of other things. Funny, it only took 2 years of this man in office to screw things up so badly that millions of voters showed up and "No more".
As for Republican Gridlock. These are buzz words Obama uses to blame Republicans for nothing getting done. We could also call it Democratic Gridlock since they won't do what the Republicans want. It goes both ways. Interesting picture of what the Senate is NOT doing http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/
We have no one to blame but ourselves for this because we didn't give either side enough power.
Yep, his judges are appointed. That makes no sense that he gets to appoint them since they are supposed to be a checks and a balances system.
Interesting that almost everyone that he appoints has communist, socialist and/or terrorist ties.
Let's take a look at Obama's Obama Convicted Murdering Domestic Terrorist for his PR Work http://www.theblaze.com/stories/readymeet-sor...
Proof Barack Obama’s Ties to the Marxist Led New Party and “Progressive Chicago” http://www.trevorloudon.com/2012/06/barack-ob...
The proof is there, no one can argue it as a conspiracy theory.
The fiction and non-fiction of Obama http://www.theblaze.com/stories/part-one-the-...
and part 2 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/part-two-the-...
How anyone can read this and see who he puts around him and still votes for him, I have to question their sanity.
And you are welcome. I realize that a lot of people don't know the REAL things that are going on, only what media wants them to believe. You are actually way more informed than most! I would rather converse with people than argue needlessly with someone bc no one is listening.
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No need to apologize, and you do not come across as condesending. I appreciate the opportunity to get answers to my questions and have verified what I do, or do not know.

I will look at the links you provided today.

In the meantime, it is refreshing to make a post and not have it met with insults and distain, but an actual discussion.

I may not agree with someone's opinion, but I respect their right to state it 100%. Just do it civilly or you'll lose me immediately. You don't fit that mold,asdf.