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Meanwhile, back to reality...

The list of senior terrorists killed during the Obama presidency is fairly extensive.

There’s Osama bin Laden, of course, killed in May.

Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Anwar al-Awlaki as of today.

Earlier this month officials confirmed that al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.

In August,‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.

In June, one of the group’s most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan. In Yemen that same month, AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed. In Somalia, Al-Qa’ida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.

Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.

Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.

In September of that month, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia, and AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.

Then in December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and ‘Abdallah Sa’id were killed.

In February 2010, in Pakistan, Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured; Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed; and Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.

In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan, while senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings – was killed during a raid in Indonesia.

In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.

In May, al Qaeda’s number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.

In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.

Remember when Rudy Giuliani warned that electing Barack Obama would mean that the U.S. played defense, not offense, against the terrorists?

If this is defense, what does offense look like?

-Jake Tapper

Etch A Sketch wrote:

Meanwhile, back to reality...
The list of senior terrorists killed during the Obama presidency is fairly extensive.
There’s Osama bin Laden, of course, killed in May.
Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Anwar al-Awlaki as of today.
Earlier this month officials confirmed that al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.
In August,‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.
In June, one of the group’s most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan. In Yemen that same month, AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed. In Somalia, Al-Qa’ida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.
Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.
Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.
In September of that month, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia, and AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.
Then in December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and ‘Abdallah Sa’id were killed.
In February 2010, in Pakistan, Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured; Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed; and Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.
In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan, while senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings – was killed during a raid in Indonesia.
In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.
In May, al Qaeda’s number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.
In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.
Remember when Rudy Giuliani warned that electing Barack Obama would mean that the U.S. played defense, not offense, against the terrorists?
If this is defense, what does offense look like?
-Jake Tapper

It was bound to happen as Obama's strategy on the war has been to just continue Bush's policies.

Speaking of reality...the recall in WI failed miserably. What a waste of taxpayer money. You should be proud, Democrats.

Consider this the beginning of Change we can believe in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Important -Search "They Live moment of revelation" on Youtube if the above clip stops working.

If this was real what would you do? If there were really aliens that saw us as dumb expendable animals would you just sit back and take their abuse. Would it make any difference if "they" were a small group of people known as the illuminati?

The movie "They Live" made in the 1980's predicted everything that has happened and will probably come to pass in terms of citizen surveillance, drones, and psychological warfare in America. Watch the whole movie.

The same thing that happened to Nazi Germany when the citizenry embraced Nazism is happening to us. The populace was dumbed down and manipuated by the illuminati and their bought out politicians and media into being a prideful yet mindless war machine. When the illuminati were done with Germany they were left a defeated, bankrupt and villified nation. No one gives a crap today when the German people say they were lead astray by their bought out politicians. The world is simply glad that in the end they got what they deserved.

America is heading down the same path. We used to be the beacon of freedom to the world but now our country has become a modern day Nazi Germany war machine starting unprovoked wars across the globe. Many people now spit at us when we visit their countries like we are villains.

If and when we are weakened internally/financially to the point that we leave ourselves open to military attack by countries like Russia and China people will cheer our demise. We have become the bad guys because we presently ALLOW a psychopathic offshore banking cartel to run our country through bought off politicians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

That Three Stooges clip sums up the illuminatis mindset very well -our last few Presidents have acted just like dictators.

Occupy Wall Street was started by the illuminati to weaken America and take the focus off them when the global economic collapse occurs. It then got out of control because people started focusing in on the private Federal Reserve. Now the illuminati is trying to clamp down on this movement because we are focusing on them and they are extremely nervous.

Wallstreet and the banks are a symptom of a greater problem. There is nothing wrong with capitalism or corporations however what we now have is crony capitalism, not true capitalism. We must swarm Washington DC and the 12 Federal Reserve Bank locations in the U.S. with massive demonstrations if we are going to take our country back. Any Occupy Wallstreet movement outside of Washington DC or the 12 Federal Reserve Bank locations is a distraction designed to keep the movement fractionalized. We must occupy the main problem, not the symptoms.

Never take freedom for granted. If you love America defend it today by getting informed and taking this country back for Americans. We WILL prevail because clearly Americans aren't going to put up with this shit any longer. The time is now.

This one show explains everything going on. It will change your life when you see how the mainstream media is manipulating us like cattle using the political Left Vs Right paradigm. Download the podcasts and listen.

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

This is our reality:

http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-docum...

http://www.infowars.com/pentagon-launches-des...

Here's my take on it. Don't be afraid to speak out as we are all on some type of list by now:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

You have to understand that free speech on the net is about to be clamped down on in America -mainland China style. Get the sunglasses and spread the word before it's too late. Learn to spot/ignore government paid trolls.

Common knowledge wrote:

Speaking of reality...the recall in WI failed miserably. What a waste of taxpayer money. You should be proud, Democrats.
Consider this the beginning of Change we can believe in.

That's OK, let him receive his indictments while in office. What indictments, well, have a look at how much wasted money he is funneling into his defense fund!!!

And he can no longer put midnight law changes in since he lost control of his senate.

He'll have to resign FROM office, that's even better!

Common knowledge wrote:

Speaking of reality...the recall in WI failed miserably. What a waste of taxpayer money. You should be proud, Democrats.
Consider this the beginning of Change we can believe in.

You DO understand the Koch brothers paid $30 million to make sure the election went their way, don't you? It's a brave new world.

Oblame Everyone's excuse for ignoring the Wisconsin recall race was: "I was busy".....

Back in 2007 (while campaigning for the presidency) The Community Agitator spread the welfare candidate told his Wisconsin supporters that if he were the president , he'd be walking in solidarity with workers if unions were threatened. The reason he didn't stop in Wisconsin because he knew that the recall would be defeated and didn't want to be associated with another defeat. He's a coward , amongst being a lot of other negative things. The Tea Party and the Silent (but getting louder daily) Majority of conservatives will kick this usurper out of office . They know it and they are running scared. They are finally under assault by an awakened populace. The end of this disastrous presidency is in sight.

Stamos wrote:

Oblame Everyone's excuse for ignoring the Wisconsin recall race was: "I was busy".....
Back in 2007 (while campaigning for the presidency) The Community Agitator spread the welfare candidate told his Wisconsin supporters that if he were the president , he'd be walking in solidarity with workers if unions were threatened. The reason he didn't stop in Wisconsin because he knew that the recall would be defeated and didn't want to be associated with another defeat. He's a coward , amongst being a lot of other negative things. The Tea Party and the Silent (but getting louder daily) Majority of conservatives will kick this usurper out of office . They know it and they are running scared. They are finally under assault by an awakened populace. The end of this disastrous presidency is in sight.

You DO understand the Koch brothers paid $30 million to make sure the election went their way, don't you? It's a brave new world.

Stamos wrote:

Oblame Everyone's excuse for ignoring the Wisconsin recall race was: "I was busy".....
Back in 2007 (while campaigning for the presidency) The Community Agitator spread the welfare candidate told his Wisconsin supporters that if he were the president , he'd be walking in solidarity with workers if unions were threatened. The reason he didn't stop in Wisconsin because he knew that the recall would be defeated and didn't want to be associated with another defeat. He's a coward , amongst being a lot of other negative things. The Tea Party and the Silent (but getting louder daily) Majority of conservatives will kick this usurper out of office . They know it and they are running scared. They are finally under assault by an awakened populace. The end of this disastrous presidency is in sight.

Hey, Stamos, have you ever been harassed by management? I have. Good thing I had a GOOD union- AFSCME.

You think these things are just going to miraculously work themselves out when all the unions are gone. Because management is always right, correct?

It will just take history repeating itself-maybe two or three or four generations, to see union-busting was a fashionable but ultimately stupid tack to take.

OK, who thinks I'm a lazy, over-paid, no-good federal, state, county, or municipal employee?

I do! I do!

Civil Servant Supporter wrote:

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Hey, Stamos, have you ever been harassed by management? I have. Good thing I had a GOOD union- AFSCME.
You think these things are just going to miraculously work themselves out when all the unions are gone. Because management is always right, correct?
It will just take history repeating itself-maybe two or three or four generations, to see union-busting was a fashionable but ultimately stupid tack to take.
OK, who thinks I'm a lazy, over-paid, no-good federal, state, county, or municipal employee?
I do! I do!

Wow! Do you realize you just swallowed someones bait? Obama must also think you're a lazy, no-good (AFSCME) American, federal, state, county or municipal employee too. Could that be why he didn't show up in support of the multi-million dollar Union recall effort? He promised specific Union support and then went campaigning and golfing when they needed him most. Is that not the point? You seem confused!

He was busy playing golf, vacationing and fundraising you know.

Neighborhood Watch wrote:

<quoted text>Wow! Do you realize you just swallowed someones bait? Obama must also think you're a lazy, no-good (AFSCME) American, federal, state, county or municipal employee too. Could that be why he didn't show up in support of the multi-million dollar Union recall effort? He promised specific Union support and then went campaigning and golfing when they needed him most. Is that not the point? You seem confused!

You think I'm surprised the President is a politician? Where and when did I mention him? I expect lip service from him-no more, no less.

You union bashers ought to be on the receiving end of a sexual or racial harassment (or worse) issue, and then see how you feel. Hang your azz out to dry.

The problem is most of you are on the other end, doing the harassing, or at best implicitly condoning it.

Isn't it time for you too make your neighborhood rounds?

One good thing about the Wisconsin circus is that it exposed public employee unions as the selfish, greedy, petulant, pampered and privileged children they are. Let us hope that the genie is out of the bottle as far as the general public finally understanding how much better these people have it than private sector employees, yet they still demand more.

In a sane world, public sector unions would be illegal. In what other system can people form a union, pool their money to get candidates elected to office who will then be the people they sit down with to negotiate their pay and benefits? These 'representatives" end up being the representatives of the unions. Who represents the people who pay the wages and benefits of the public employee?

Ron Paul

Stamos wrote:

One good thing about the Wisconsin circus is that it exposed public employee unions as the selfish, greedy, petulant, pampered and privileged children they are. Let us hope that the genie is out of the bottle as far as the general public finally understanding how much better these people have it than private sector employees, yet they still demand more.
In a sane world, public sector unions would be illegal. In what other system can people form a union, pool their money to get candidates elected to office who will then be the people they sit down with to negotiate their pay and benefits? These 'representatives" end up being the representatives of the unions. Who represents the people who pay the wages and benefits of the public employee?

Stamos, I swear to god you must get your point of view from sticking your head out the Sundial window, looking around, and then running in to watch Fox news.

How much do you think these joes are making leaning on a shovel and staring at a hole in the street? They're barely above the poverty level in most cases, and you know it. If they're doing better than people in the private sector it's because the private sector employees are being taken advantage of. By owners and management. I'm glad the people who work for me, the public employees aren't stepped on like so many private employees are.

The public sector is exactly where we need unions. Strong unions neutralize the politics that are inherently a negative part of public employment. You know what rolls downhill-unions stop that shite in its tracks.

Who thinks we should privatize public works?(yawn).

Federal labor unions are different from state and local unions in that federal unions do not have the right to collective bargaining. That's why the air traffic controllers were fired by Reagan. They were acting illegally. When the unions in Wisconsin lost the right to bargain collectively, they still had the same rights as the millions of federal employees across the country who are well paid and well treated. This issue was about state unions, but the media convinced the "useful idiots" that all unions are the same and no one should think otherwise.

Did you know that labor unions are categorized as tax-exempt 501(c)5 organizations. In 2010, these organizations together held $32,498,906,714 in assets. This number comes from the combined assets of all labor unions and farm bureaus. After all their expenses, lobbying efforts, and political voter intimidation efforts, these organized labor bosses still have more money than the entire GDP of many countries. "NONE" of it is taxed! Maybe the dummycrats should consider taxing these political activist unions instead of the wealthy 1%?
If that 32 billion were taxed at the corporate tax rate, it could pay for the entire Military Reserve budget and still have 3 billion left over. For those counting on their fingers that's about as much as the we are now losing in the time it takes This Spread the Welfare President to get in a round of golf.

Excuse me Civil! I forgot to cite my source.
http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/PubApps/nonprofi...

Stamos wrote:

Excuse me Civil! I forgot to cite my source.
http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/PubApps/nonprofi...

But Stamos, you and I are just agreeing to disagree again. I'm (and alway will) look at the issue from a person(al) POV, while you look at "the big picture." I've been a card-carrying commie union member for most of my sorry-azz working life.

As far as Wisconsin goes, wait until daughter Suzy's favorite teacher is shit-canned because her boobs aren't big enough.

better than the alternative

Civil Servant Supporter wrote:

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But Stamos, you and I are just agreeing to disagree again. I'm (and alway will) look at the issue from a person(al) POV, while you look at "the big picture." I've been a card-carrying commie union member for most of my sorry-azz working life.
As far as Wisconsin goes, wait until daughter Suzy's favorite teacher is shit-canned because her boobs aren't big enough.

I support Big Boobs!