Election Poll, June 2012 Debate - Columbus, OH

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If this was real what would you do? If there were really aliens that saw us as dumb expendable animals would you just sit back and take their abuse. Would it make any difference if "they" were a small group of people known as the illuminati?

The movie "They Live" made in the 1980's predicted everything that has happened and will probably come to pass in terms of citizen surveillance, drones, and pyschological warfare in America. Watch the whole movie.

The same thing that happened to Nazi Germany when the citizenry embraced Nazism is happening to us. The populace was dumbed down and manipuated by the illuminati and their bought out politicians and media into being a prideful yet mindless war machine. When the illuminati were done with Germany they were left a defeated, bankrupt and villified nation. No one gives a crap today when the German people say they were lead astray by their bought out politicians. The world is simply glad that in the end they got what they deserved.

America is heading down the same path. We used to be the beacon of freedom to the world but now our country has become a modern day Nazi Germany war machine starting unprovoked wars across the globe. Many people now spit at us when we visit their countries like we are villains.

If and when we are weakened internally/financially to the point that we leave ourselves open to military attack by countries like Russia and China people will cheer our demise. We have become the bad guys because we presently ALLOW a psychopathic offshore banking cartel to run our country through bought off politicians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

That Three Stooges clip sums up the illuminatis mindset very well -our last few Presidents have acted just like dictators.

Occupy Wall Street was started by the illuminati to weaken America and take the focus off them when the global economic collapse occurs. It then got out of control because people started focusing in on the private Federal Reserve. Now the illuminati is trying to clamp down on this movement because we are focusing on them and they are extremely nervous.

Wallstreet and the banks are a symptom of a greater problem. There is nothing wrong with capitalism or corporations however what we now have is crony capitalism, not true capitalism. We must swarm Washington DC and the 12 Federal Reserve Bank locations in the U.S. with massive demonstrations if we are going to take our country back. Any Occupy Wallstreet movement outside of Washington DC or the 12 Federal Reserve Bank locations is a distraction designed to keep the movement fractionalized. We must occupy the main problem, not the symptoms.

Never take freedom for granted. If you love America defend it today by getting informed and taking this country back for Americans. We WILL prevail because clearly Americans aren't going to put up with this shit any longer. The time is now.

This one show explains everything going on. It will change your life when you see how the mainstream media is manipulating us like cattle using the political Left Vs Right paradigm. Download the podcasts and listen.

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

This is our reality:

http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-docum...

http://www.infowars.com/pentagon-launches-des...

Here's my take on it. Don't be afraid to speak out as we are all on some type of list by now:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

You have to understand that free speech on the net is about to be clamped down on in America -mainland China style. Get the sunglasses and spread the word before it's too late. Learn to spot/ignore government paid trolls.

They Live wrote:

You have to understand that free speech on the net is about to be clamped down on in America -mainland China style. Get the sunglasses and spread the word before it's too late. Learn to spot/ignore government paid trolls.

That just begs the question--who's paying you, troll?

FKA Reader wrote:

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That just begs the question--who's paying you, troll?

Still mad about getting your ass handed to you in Wisconsin, Reader?

Obama has proven he's not up to the task, Romney is not different. We need to take a new direction and fast.

Spookneverdies wrote:

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Long time no read. Hopefully Mittens wins by the retain walker margin or better yet same for all house races as well as Senate. If it is Brown flush it down.

Hi Spook. It's been incredibly dull on the boards lately, hasn't it?

Kramers Attorney wrote:

<quoted text>Hi Spook. It's been incredibly dull on the boards lately, hasn't it?

Georgie Porgie pudding pie, left the boards and may them cry, when Georgie Porgie came out to play all the posters said Hooray!

Spookneverdies wrote:

Because I don't vote for Marxist trash

You vote for the gayest candidate.

Spookneverdies wrote:

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Wrong I didn't vote for Barry the fistee Obama nor Ted Stricklan

Sure you didn't. Whatever you say.

Kramers Attorney wrote:

<quoted text>Still mad about getting your ass handed to you in Wisconsin, Reader?

I've wondered where you've been. Good to see you back.

FKA Reader wrote:

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That just begs the question--who's paying you, troll?

My consceince is compeling me to "troll" because looking around I know what's next if we don't speak up. And don't worry my conscience pays me in peace of mind.

In case you are wondering, I don't endorse any candidates as of now -Ron Paul is turning out to be a disappointment for not stepping up to run third party.

Anybody but Obama!

I dislike both candidates because they are both full of crap. Walker did not get recalled because he was the best governor money could buy and the lemmings fell for the advertisement sponsored by the Koch Brothers. If Romney wins it will be for the same reason. Romney's only qualification like W was that he was born in the "lucky sperm" club. Huntsman was the only candidate with a brain and he got nowhere. The rest of them are nothing more than bought and paid for parasites for sale to the highest bidder which also includes all the clowns in both houses of Congress. With the outdated electoral college an individual's vote means nothing exept perhaps in a "tossup" state. Whoever wins should be decided by popular votes nationwide. A lot of the material in the constitution is obsolete and should be updated to modern times. When the constitution was written it was a different world."The founding fathers"did what they had to do in regard to their time. It does not apply today. Another fact is that the Supreme court has become politicized with the Citizens United decision creating an olygarchy by the 5 bought and paid for"conservative" justices. The new "nobility" are the wealthiest 1% and the corporations. It is not about average people anymore it is for the all mighty dollar. When I see that obnoxious Puke Trump and all of his brown nosers it sickens me that this obnoxious buffoon with a ferrett haido wants to be the "kingmaker" of the Republican party. Whatever happens in the future, its going to get ugly. When half the nation lives below the poverty rate politicians should read up about the French and Russian revolutions and what caused them.

anonymous wrote:

I dislike both candidates because they are both full of crap. Walker did not get recalled because he was the best governor money could buy and the lemmings fell for the advertisement sponsored by the Koch Brothers. If Romney wins it will be for the same reason. Romney's only qualification like W was that he was born in the "lucky sperm" club. Huntsman was the only candidate with a brain and he got nowhere. The rest of them are nothing more than bought and paid for parasites for sale to the highest bidder which also includes all the clowns in both houses of Congress. With the outdated electoral college an individual's vote means nothing exept perhaps in a "tossup" state. Whoever wins should be decided by popular votes nationwide. A lot of the material in the constitution is obsolete and should be updated to modern times. When the constitution was written it was a different world."The founding fathers"did what they had to do in regard to their time. It does not apply today. Another fact is that the Supreme court has become politicized with the Citizens United decision creating an olygarchy by the 5 bought and paid for"conservative" justices. The new "nobility" are the wealthiest 1% and the corporations. It is not about average people anymore it is for the all mighty dollar. When I see that obnoxious Puke Trump and all of his brown nosers it sickens me that this obnoxious buffoon with a ferrett haido wants to be the "kingmaker" of the Republican party. Whatever happens in the future, its going to get ugly. When half the nation lives below the poverty rate politicians should read up about the French and Russian revolutions and what caused them.

I agree with you on some points (like the role of dollars in determining the outcome of elections) and disagree on others. I have always found the cynicism of "they're all bums" to be a cop out. End of the day, the only choices we have are people--and their available choices will largely be determined by the overall system.

I disagree that much of the Constitution is obsolete. But then, I am among those who have always seen it as a living document rather than a static set of does and don'ts. Many people fail to appreciate that the Constitution is not only the words originally set to paper, but Constitutionality as determined by the Supreme Court has taken on meaning in an ever-changing world. This is not, as some claim, "judicial activism," but rather the appropriate role of these decision-makers in maintaining both consistency and relevance.

It's no secret that I remain an Obama backer. I think Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby have both made the point that he is a far better President than anyone knows at this point. Certainly I would wish that he had more success in unifying Congress. But then, I don't know if the current Congress is of a mind to be unified. I do count the passage of health care reform (warts and all) to be significant, along with foreign policy work that can never be forecast adequately by the electorate, or even any candidates lacking in the knowledge available to the President.

I don't view Romney as either evil or stupid. However, I also see little to convince me that he has the makings of a more than merely adequate President. And his party is not in a position to be supportive. Romney--under his chameleon coat--is most likely a moderate. But moderates are a rare breed among Republicans these days and the pressures from the far right, and from inexperienced politicians, are not likely to allow him much room for movement.

FKA Reader wrote:

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That just begs the question--who's paying you, troll?

It's not a done deal yet but a treaty so to speak would place the internet under U.N. Control. I don't think it will get any support but that hasn't stopped them from doing dumber things.

What in the Constitution is outdated? The limits on the authority of the Federal Government.

The Constitution sets limits on the Federal Government. The States are free to each deide what they want or don't want as long as it does not violate the Constitution.

The Supreme Court in spite of what has occurred does not have the Authority of Judicial Review. Read the authority given to the Supreme Court.

The essentially took that power and it has never been challenged.

Article III of the Constitution provides for the establishment of a Judicial branch of the federal government and Section 2 of that article enumerates the powers of the Supreme Court. Here is Section 2, in part:

Section 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;

to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;
to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;
to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;

to Controversies between two or more States;

between a State and Citizens of another State;

between Citizens of different States;

between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States,

and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

FKA Reader wrote:

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I agree with you on some points (like the role of dollars in determining the outcome of elections) and disagree on others. I have always found the cynicism of "they're all bums" to be a cop out. End of the day, the only choices we have are people--and their available choices will largely be determined by the overall system.
I disagree that much of the Constitution is obsolete. But then, I am among those who have always seen it as a living document rather than a static set of does and don'ts. Many people fail to appreciate that the Constitution is not only the words originally set to paper, but Constitutionality as determined by the Supreme Court has taken on meaning in an ever-changing world. This is not, as some claim, "judicial activism," but rather the appropriate role of these decision-makers in maintaining both consistency and relevance.
It's no secret that I remain an Obama backer. I think Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby have both made the point that he is a far better President than anyone knows at this point. Certainly I would wish that he had more success in unifying Congress. But then, I don't know if the current Congress is of a mind to be unified. I do count the passage of health care reform (warts and all) to be significant, along with foreign policy work that can never be forecast adequately by the electorate, or even any candidates lacking in the knowledge available to the President.
I don't view Romney as either evil or stupid. However, I also see little to convince me that he has the makings of a more than merely adequate President. And his party is not in a position to be supportive. Romney--under his chameleon coat--is most likely a moderate. But moderates are a rare breed among Republicans these days and the pressures from the far right, and from inexperienced politicians, are not likely to allow him much room for movement.

you want campaign finance, because as the majority becomes dependant on the govt for a check, those with money can teach the truth to the masses.

Conservative wrote:

What in the Constitution is outdated? The limits on the authority of the Federal Government.

The electoral college for one thing. and the fact that at the time the US was a small agrarian country with few states. The United States is not 50 separate nations it is one nation. The powers of the states should be limited to very local issues. Education, infrastructure, and many other factors should be centralized. The constitution is simply a piece of paper written by individuals for their own times. It has been so bastardized over the years due to politics that at the present time it is nothing more than an anachronism that was almost copied word for word by Jefferson from the Edicts of Rights of Men written during the French Revolution.

GlitterSucks wrote:

<quoted text>Georgie Porgie pudding pie, left the boards and may them cry, when Georgie Porgie came out to play all the posters said Hooray!

That's my girl Glitter!!

anonymous wrote:

<quoted text> The electoral college for one thing. and the fact that at the time the US was a small agrarian country with few states. The United States is not 50 separate nations it is one nation. The powers of the states should be limited to very local issues. Education, infrastructure, and many other factors should be centralized. The constitution is simply a piece of paper written by individuals for their own times. It has been so bastardized over the years due to politics that at the present time it is nothing more than an anachronism that was almost copied word for word by Jefferson from the Edicts of Rights of Men written during the French Revolution.

Thank God the Founders made the Constitution so hard to amend.
I don't want to be ruled by New York, California and Illinois the same way you don't want to live under the the dictates of Texas, Alabama and Alaska. Thank God for the wisdom of the Founders to try to prevent either scenario.