Civil Unions Debate - New York, NY

Discuss the national Civil Unions debate in New York, NY.

Are Civil Unions Enough?

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#44
Mar 23, 2012
 
Old dogg wrote:
How you mean new Yorkers have too much time on there hands .
You live here ?
I say no civil in NY
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Mar 23, 2012
 
No gay marriage

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Mar 27, 2012
 
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Hear me now,,, NO TWO MAN SHOULD GET MARRIED it's a sin sin sin .and we must stop talking like we are ok with it
Sin? So...this country is a christian nation and NOT one based on freedom of religion, keeping separation of church and state an honored law? You can't force your beliefs on others or use ANY religion as an influence for why laws should or shouldn't exist. Marriage is not a religious ceremony, but a lawful one. Don't like it? Sucks to be you.
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#47
May 14, 2012
 
I support gay marriage because every human being should have the same rights.
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#48
May 16, 2012
 
These people can do whatever the hell they want to do with their bodies but they have no right to define marriage. I see how you all love to come come with your phrases like you on a campaign trail whats the new phrase of the hour now???

"Equality Your rights is my rights" really??? Who says it wont be long before pedophiles start chanting the same sh*it they acquitted a man in NY claiming that him watching child pornography was not a crime really???

Bottom line is this world is f'ed up and fallen and its time for righteous people to stop playing these religious BS games and actually read this freaking book to find out what the creator had to say.

Bottom line is one day all you wannabe homos who are really sinners will have to step out your body and cross over to the after life. You better make sure you have a good report to give to the heavenly father as he pulls all your sh*it up on his high definition screen as he watch all the sh*it you did to the body he gave you!!!

Chanting Its my body!!! Yeah right. if you really owned your body then we shouldn't be having funerals for you. You should be able to transfer it to the afterlife if you own it so much.

And I know some of you don't believe in the Creator or hell because you on your "universe" sh*it but your non belief does not dismiss that he is still there and you will face him!!!
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#49
May 16, 2012
 
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Sin? So...this country is a christian nation and NOT one based on freedom of religion, keeping separation of church and state an honored law? You can't force your beliefs on others or use ANY religion as an influence for why laws should or shouldn't exist. Marriage is not a religious ceremony, but a lawful one. Don't like it? Sucks to be you.
When was the first marriage ceremony last I check it was between a male and a female. That same deity who establish that showed up to the Hebrews and taught this f'ed up world how to live properly. Now you little pea brain humans think you have this all figured out. All I'm saying when you die in your sh*it send me back a memo from the afterlife and tell me what you.
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May 16, 2012
 
Quantum_Locked_Angel_Sami wrote:
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Sin? So...this country is a christian nation and NOT one based on freedom of religion, keeping separation of church and state an honored law? You can't force your beliefs on others or use ANY religion as an influence for why laws should or shouldn't exist. Marriage is not a religious ceremony, but a lawful one. Don't like it? Sucks to be you.
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May 16, 2012
 
Oh and by the way. This went under the radar but the same sex couple who started this marriage equality sh*it in California has gotten a divorce. Isn't that some BS. You fought to get this happen now you walk away from what you fought for. The judge should've denied them a divorce just a waste and simply agents for the destruction of this society!!!

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May 17, 2012
 
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May 17, 2012
 
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When was the first marriage ceremony last I check it was between a male and a female. That same deity who establish that showed up to the Hebrews and taught this f'ed up world how to live properly. Now you little pea brain humans think you have this all figured out. All I'm saying when you die in your sh*it send me back a memo from the afterlife and tell me what you.
Problem with your "memo" plan...THERE IS NO AFTERLIFE!!! And you clearly don't seem to realize that LONG before the Christian/Jewish/Catholic/Musl im god(s) ever existed(as characters. I'm not suggesting they ACTUALLY exist) there were wedding ceremonies. The Greeks had them, the Romans had them(INCLUDING gay weddings...sorry to disappoint you), the Egyptians had them, and ALL Native American tribes had them(ALSO including the occasional same sex wedding), but of course, history is rewritten and censored for public viewing...It's sad, but at least people who actually do the research know better...

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May 17, 2012
 
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Oh and by the way. This went under the radar but the same sex couple who started this marriage equality sh*it in California has gotten a divorce. Isn't that some BS. You fought to get this happen now you walk away from what you fought for. The judge should've denied them a divorce just a waste and simply agents for the destruction of this society!!!
Wow...Okay...So? Are you saying straight couples don't get divorced? Because last time I checked...there were a LOT less gay divorces than straight ones...(mind you that is factoring for the ratio, NOT just leaving the numbers as is.)
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#56
Jun 4, 2012
 
Civil Unions are BS to make the patriarchal folks feel better about being hateful bigots, just give everyone the same rights you have, it's fair AND the right thing to do.
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Jun 4, 2012
 
no
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#58
Jun 4, 2012
 
Yes.
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Jun 4, 2012
 
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Wow...Okay...So? Are you saying straight couples don't get divorced? Because last time I checked...there were a LOT less gay divorces than straight ones...(mind you that is factoring for the ratio, NOT just leaving the numbers as is.)
Oh please give it another decade and you will see divorce amongst homosexual sky rocket. It's the principle of the thing. These two broads were together for all those years. Literally fought to get this legalize then get a divorce shortly thereafter. Don't act like this was just another normal couple decided to get married then had a divorce. These were two people who fought and sacrificed to get this legalize then walk away. That Sir/Mam speaks VOLUMES UPON VOLUMES!!!!

How come all that time they were together and was never legally "married" all was cool right but no they had to get there messy little hands on marriage and twist it and look what happened it backfired right in their face. A man and a woman divorcing is a lesser of two evil compared to same couples divorcing. Same sex is "marriage" is doom to fail it will never work and it will continue to backfire in the faces of all who decided to take their messy lifestyle and corrupt the divine order!!!

And least Man and a Woman have a chance of making it if they learn the art of marriage and learn what it's truly about. But same sex is doom from the gate. It will never be blessed only stress as you will discover that so call 'gay marriage' was never the answer!!!
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Jun 4, 2012
 
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Oh please give it another decade and you will see divorce amongst homosexual sky rocket. It's the principle of the thing. These two broads were together for all those years. Literally fought to get this legalize then get a divorce shortly thereafter. Don't act like this was just another normal couple decided to get married then had a divorce. These were two people who fought and sacrificed to get this legalize then walk away. That Sir/Mam speaks VOLUMES UPON VOLUMES!!!!
How come all that time they were together and was never legally "married" all was cool right but no they had to get there messy little hands on marriage and twist it and look what happened it backfired right in their face. A man and a woman divorcing is a lesser of two evil compared to same couples divorcing. Same sex is "marriage" is doom to fail it will never work and it will continue to backfire in the faces of all who decided to take their messy lifestyle and corrupt the divine order!!!
And least Man and a Woman have a chance of making it if they learn the art of marriage and learn what it's truly about. But same sex is doom from the gate. It will never be blessed only stress as you will discover that so call 'gay marriage' was never the answer!!!
HETEROSEXUAL DIVORCE SKYROCKETED ALREADY A LONG TIME AGO OR MAY BE IS JUST HUMAN NATURE.

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Jun 5, 2012
 
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Oh please give it another decade and you will see divorce amongst homosexual sky rocket. It's the principle of the thing. These two broads were together for all those years. Literally fought to get this legalize then get a divorce shortly thereafter. Don't act like this was just another normal couple decided to get married then had a divorce. These were two people who fought and sacrificed to get this legalize then walk away. That Sir/Mam speaks VOLUMES UPON VOLUMES!!!!
How come all that time they were together and was never legally "married" all was cool right but no they had to get there messy little hands on marriage and twist it and look what happened it backfired right in their face. A man and a woman divorcing is a lesser of two evil compared to same couples divorcing. Same sex is "marriage" is doom to fail it will never work and it will continue to backfire in the faces of all who decided to take their messy lifestyle and corrupt the divine order!!!
And least Man and a Woman have a chance of making it if they learn the art of marriage and learn what it's truly about. But same sex is doom from the gate. It will never be blessed only stress as you will discover that so call 'gay marriage' was never the answer!!!
Put simply saying "gay marriage" or "same sex" marriage as if it's really any different than "interracial marriage" is pathetic. It's not like people today say "Oh hey! I'm getting interracially married this sunday" Why? Because it's JUST marriage. It's the same with "gay marriage" If people would just wake up and realize marriage is NOT about procreation, but about uniting people in love as a legal bond, this world would be FAR better off. You can throw around that pathetic divorce argument all you like, but it's already at HALF of all marriages, and it will either lower with gay marriages, or it will stay the SAME. It won't grow in percentage. Homosexuals are NO different than heterosexuals beyond their NATURAL taste in the same sex...and frankly, that isn't REALLY different at all. Love is love. You can't just CHOOSE who you fall in love with, so why segregate based on gender? It's WRONG.
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Put simply saying "gay marriage" or "same sex" marriage as if it's really any different than "interracial marriage" is pathetic. It's not like people today say "Oh hey! I'm getting interracially married this sunday" Why? Because it's JUST marriage. It's the same with "gay marriage" If people would just wake up and realize marriage is NOT about procreation, but about uniting people in love as a legal bond, this world would be FAR better off. You can throw around that pathetic divorce argument all you like, but it's already at HALF of all marriages, and it will either lower with gay marriages, or it will stay the SAME. It won't grow in percentage. Homosexuals are NO different than heterosexuals beyond their NATURAL taste in the same sex...and frankly, that isn't REALLY different at all. Love is love. You can't just CHOOSE who you fall in love with, so why segregate based on gender? It's WRONG.
"If people would just wake up and realize marriage is NOT about procreation,"<<< <Really says who. Says you you little human here today gone tomorrow because you think you have this figured out. Procreation is a part of marriage. The fact that a man who is enslaved to the homosexual lifestyle can't procreate with another man and vice verse with women says it all. What are you doing. You are wasting time. The anus my friend is not a reproductive organ. It does not produce. Once again you will never convince me that two men abusing each other anuses is love. You have that messy lifestyle confuse with LUST. What you think is LOVE in reality is actually enslavement to a lifestyle that you have no divine power to break free from so you settle.

As I said before you will one day have to exit this body that you are abusing through this unhealthy lifestyle that some of you are trying to market and front as if it's normal. All I'm saying is the Creator will replay all your sh*t on his Hi-Def screen in-front of all humanity and the angels.

You're so caught up in the here and now that you forget you have another appointment call Judgement day. I hope you leave out prepared and ready that's all I'm saying!

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"If people would just wake up and realize marriage is NOT about procreation,"<<< <Really says who. Says you you little human here today gone tomorrow because you think you have this figured out. Procreation is a part of marriage. The fact that a man who is enslaved to the homosexual lifestyle can't procreate with another man and vice verse with women says it all. What are you doing. You are wasting time. The anus my friend is not a reproductive organ. It does not produce. Once again you will never convince me that two men abusing each other anuses is love. You have that messy lifestyle confuse with LUST. What you think is LOVE in reality is actually enslavement to a lifestyle that you have no divine power to break free from so you settle.
As I said before you will one day have to exit this body that you are abusing through this unhealthy lifestyle that some of you are trying to market and front as if it's normal. All I'm saying is the Creator will replay all your sh*t on his Hi-Def screen in-front of all humanity and the angels.
You're so caught up in the here and now that you forget you have another appointment call Judgement day. I hope you leave out prepared and ready that's all I'm saying!
Oh, you poor, ignorant person, you...I'm in full control of who I am...I am FREE of such foolish faith is something that has NEVER existed. I'm not saying there is 100% NO god, but none of the ones people know of do exist. THAT much I know without question. When I die, that is IT. There's no eternal ANYTHING waiting for me. You may ask me why I bother living a good, moral life then?(Not counting my apparently "evil" sexuality, which has NOTHING to do with right or wrong in fact, but whatever...) The answer is simple. Hurting others is wrong. I don't need some petty reward or threat of punishment to do good to others. I am honest, I help others in need, and unlike you, who probably just sits on your knees and /prays/ for those in need, I actually get up and WORK to help them. I give money and food to the homeless, I sponsor people in third-world countries, I have payed money to rescue people of other beliefs in countries that kill people for believing otherwise from a horrible fate, and I've paid money to save LGBT or straight people who are pro-gay from being hanged in Uganda. I've saved lives, helped build homes, and actually DONE something for my fellow man. Why? Because it's what's right. Not because of some false hope I'll go to paradise when I die(if I'm good), and not out of fear of eternal suffering. THAT is selfish and petty thinking. Yes, I do have pride in that, but the truth is, it is minor. I am boasting to you because ANY form of judgement or hatred is FAR beneath me, unless I am hated first. You SHOULD treat me as you would want me to treat you. Well, I'm bisexual NOT by choice or some "evil outer force" but by NATURAL means. I was born this way, and there's nothing ANYONE can do to change it. One can change their beliefs. One can NOT change their sexuality. It's not possible...not without HORRIBLE consequences, mostly involving signs of insanity.
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Oh, you poor, ignorant person, you...I'm in full control of who I am...I am FREE of such foolish faith is something that has NEVER existed. I'm not saying there is 100% NO god, but none of the ones people know of do exist. THAT much I know without question. When I die, that is IT. There's no eternal ANYTHING waiting for me. You may ask me why I bother living a good, moral life then?(Not counting my apparently "evil" sexuality, which has NOTHING to do with right or wrong in fact, but whatever...) The answer is simple. Hurting others is wrong. I don't need some petty reward or threat of punishment to do good to others. I am honest, I help others in need, and unlike you, who probably just sits on your knees and /prays/ for those in need, I actually get up and WORK to help them. I give money and food to the homeless, I sponsor people in third-world countries, I have payed money to rescue people of other beliefs in countries that kill people for believing otherwise from a horrible fate, and I've paid money to save LGBT or straight people who are pro-gay from being hanged in Uganda. I've saved lives, helped build homes, and actually DONE something for my fellow man. Why? Because it's what's right. Not because of some false hope I'll go to paradise when I die(if I'm good), and not out of fear of eternal suffering. THAT is selfish and petty thinking. Yes, I do have pride in that, but the truth is, it is minor. I am boasting to you because ANY form of judgement or hatred is FAR beneath me, unless I am hated first. You SHOULD treat me as you would want me to treat you. Well, I'm bisexual NOT by choice or some "evil outer force" but by NATURAL means. I was born this way, and there's nothing ANYONE can do to change it. One can change their beliefs. One can NOT change their sexuality. It's not possible...not without HORRIBLE consequences, mostly involving signs of insanity.
"unlike you, who probably just sits on your knees and /prays/ for those in need"

Ummm see there you go with your assumptions. I have been heavily involved with my community specifically the Alfred E. Smith projects on the lower east side not to far from Pace University, Been involved with that community for years doing out reach, so I forgive you cause you obviously know no better. And your BELIEF or NON BELIEF of the after life is irrelevant. You can convince your self all you want to that "this is it". It still does not dismiss the afterlife. And no God does not send people to hades(hell). People like you send there OWN SELVES to hell when they do what you do. Live and pretend that the afterlife doesn't exist and refuse to address the spiritual filth that's in their spirit.

This whole "this is it" theory only applies to animals. Unless you are an animal which obviously you are not then the "this is it" theory does not apply to you.

And if you know anything about scripture. There are lots of people that will send themselves to hell for other reason aside from homosexuality. What you think is natural is really very unnatural to Humanity. You ARE DEALING WITH A SPIRITUAL ISSUE that you are enslaved to until you humble yourself and acknowledge who you truly are which is a fallen soul. Then you will forever be enslaved. Your sexual behavior is not natural you are ENSLAVED TO A SPIRITUAL ISSUE that is controlling you. I bet you if you decided today that you no longer wanted to be a Bisexual you wouldn't last a day of course not because you have no power to BREAK FREE.

And its good all the outreach you've done. that's great but it will never be enough. You're like a sick doctor trying to help others in need. Get your spirit clean and you'll be even more affective in your outreach. Its not about QUANTITY it's about Quality.

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