Civil Unions Debate - Newport, TN

Gay people should have the right to miserable too!

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Has The Socialist Agenda Taken Over Our Schools?

A favorite topic of mine is the shambles representative of our education system. This topic is strictly prohibited by my friends and acquaintances who are school teachers and unionist.
They have been lead to believe whatever the liberal socailist left nut cases think. Look at our crumling society following the footsteps of the Roman empire. Days are shorter now as a nation under God. In God We Trust.

The Civil Union/Same Sex Marriage debate is a distraction away from important issues facing this country today. Let the states decide whether same sex marriage is right for them and let's move on.

Google the NDAA and SOPA acts -just do it and see what comes up. Let's focus on real issues like the importance of the next election, the imploding economy and dollar, and the war being pushed in Iran that will no doubt lead to WWIII.

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Truth vs socialist media wrote:

The Civil Union/Same Sex Marriage debate is a distraction away from important issues facing this country today. Let the states decide whether same sex marriage is right for them and let's move on.

Google the NDAA and SOPA acts -just do it and see what comes up. Let's focus on real issues like the importance of the next election, the imploding economy and dollar, and the war being pushed in Iran that will no doubt lead to WWIII.

Remember, when a mainstream media host says there are no such things as conspiracies -that in itself is a conspiratorial statement. Never mind the fact they don't like losing their audiences to truth based reporting from non mainstream news sources.

Once you have a taste of truthful reporting you never go back to mainstream contrived corporate media.

These hosts bash Republicans and Democrats equally because they know both sides are illuminati bought puppets out to screw us.

Give alternative news sources a chance before you knock them. Download these shows to your MP3 players and listen on your way to work or whatever. All you need from mainstream media is breaking news and traffic/weather.

Exposes US Gov Corruption and Global Wide Illuminati Plots

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

http://video.google.com/videoplay ...#(Skip around -you'll learn something useful)

Exposes Wallstreet and absolutely teaches you how to protect your money from the banksters

http://www.philsgang.com/pgfreeshowarchives.a ...

Often Exposes NASA Disinformation and Possible Offworld Intelligence Coverups (10PM to 2am) Coast To Coast Free Archives

http://www.ksfo.com/Article.asp ...

Exposes Secret/Ancient Knowledge Suppressed In Modern History Books and suppressed medical cures/prevention for diseaseses like cancer, etc. This guy is a medical doctor.

http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/

Connects Bible Predictions/Prophecy to Modern Day Events -How Illuminati uses bible prophecy to plan false flag disasters eg. earthquakes, etc.

http://www.thegospel.com/clients/the-prophecy ...

For a summary of all the topics discussed on these broadcasts this is my take on it

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T ...

These radio hosts should do a show together or at least make guest appearences on each others shows. They all value truth and liberty in their own way.

With that SOPA legislation now passed we don't have a lot of time left to get informed before the net is censored.

Pretty sure you lost me at Illuminati...

Can someone with at least a sliver of reasoning or logic ability explain to me how civil unions are not (morally, ethically, legally, and generally) thinly veiled equivalents to separate-but-equal practices?

Simple. We were made different for a reason. God made Adam and Eve not adam and steve! besides its just gross!!

There you are thump, thump, thump, live and LET LIVE. Narrow minds should accompany closed mouths!

just me wrote:

There you are thump, thump, thump, live and LET LIVE. Narrow minds should accompany closed mouths!

And ignorant people like you should use ur common sense and grow up. the only narrowed mine person in this conversation is you. you can say whatever you want, its not going to hurt my feelings. Last time i checked i have freedom of speech, so ill continue "thumping" as you say bc i can and i will and u can persecute me away...i have my opinion and u have one to. so leave it at that, ur not gonna change me and im not gonna change you..as i said before if you have a problem with what i say take it up with God, u aint gonna win. have a good nite!

KGS wrote:

Simple. We were made different for a reason. God made Adam and Eve not adam and steve! besides its just gross!!

Who then "made" "Steve"?

One Love!

If traditional marriage really worked the divorce rate wouldn't be so high.

KGS wrote:

Simple. We were made different for a reason. God made Adam and Eve not adam and steve! besides its just gross!!

As usual, the weak' because God made it so' response. I could easily justify separate by equal and restricting interracial marriage with religious banter like that but that is not the point.

The challenge was this: provide an ethical, moral, legal, or any form of logical, non-religious argument for the difference between civil unions and separate but equal practices.

Is it really so challenging to justify something you believe in without using antiquated beliefs that a even a large number of Christians would disagree with? Tsk tsk.

Youre only half-right, God made Adam and Eve first, he also created Adam and Steve(gay), Jane and Misty(lesbian), Zeek and Carly(interracial), and Kevin and Molly(athiest). He created all of us, not only that he created us equal, so we shouldnt be judging eachother on old laws that no longer apply with the new covenant.(before you say they do apply, do you eat shellfish, shrimp, use stoning as punishment, or wear any blended fibers clothing?)
Jesus taught love and understanding, not hate an intolerance. Besides, in America not all of the population is Christian, so we cant be conforming them to OUR idea of marriage. It isnt lawfull. Many other religions and beliefs have been having "marriages" long before Christ had been born. We dont have a monopoly on marriage ceremonies.

First off,if u all dont like my opinion dont read it, and dont reply to it. Everyone puts there own opinion on here n so do i. N ur missin my point. god made marriage between a man and a woman. not 2 men and not 2 women. yes he made us all! ur takin what im sayin and breakin it down into something its not. im not here to challenge im here to voice my opinion. There u go again breaking it down. I am not trying to conform anyone to my idea or how i believe, im simply stating what i believe, which is the Bible. If you have a problem with the Bible take it up with God not me! When i mention God, ur crtizize me bt when the person at the top calls them fa*s, u say nothing to him.?? makes no sense...and Brian, i wasnt responding to u or ur challenge, i was responding to the poll! if i had something to discuss with each of u it would be directed to you!

KGS wrote:

First off,if u all dont like my opinion dont read it, and dont reply to it. Everyone puts there own opinion on here n so do i. N ur missin my point. god made marriage between a man and a woman. not 2 men and not 2 women. yes he made us all! ur takin what im sayin and breakin it down into something its not. im not here to challenge im here to voice my opinion. There u go again breaking it down. I am not trying to conform anyone to my idea or how i believe, im simply stating what i believe, which is the Bible. If you have a problem with the Bible take it up with God not me! When i mention God, ur crtizize me bt when the person at the top calls them fa*s, u say nothing to him.?? makes no sense...and Brian, i wasnt responding to u or ur challenge, i was responding to the poll! if i had something to discuss with each of u it would be directed to you!

Another angry Christian- I am not criticizing you, only your argument. I of course agree you are entitled to your opinion, and in fact acknowledging it has no rational basis would be consistent with your faithfulness, so you should take it has a compliment.:)

Quite humble your assertion that you are the authority on the Bible, when many older sects of your religion interpret it differently, but again I have no interest in arguing religion. Your response was not directed at me or applicable to discussion so we have nothing to argue about.

As I said, the old testament laws dont really apply anymore thanks to the new covenant of Christ, if you read the bible you should be aware of that.
My issues is youre holding other people, many who might not share our Christian beliefs, to standards of your own. How does them getting married affect you personally? Should a striaght atheist couple have more right to marry than a homosexual christian couple?
As another poster said its very identical to the seperate but equal treatment many years ago. America has many cultures and religions, to prevent one group from doing something because a particular religion is against it is pretty inconsiderate. I hate to play slipperly slope, but soon after the Hindu-Americans will make eating meat against the law, would you find that fair?

Brian wrote:

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Another angry Christian- I am not criticizing you, only your argument. I of course agree you are entitled to your opinion, and in fact acknowledging it has no rational basis would be consistent with your faithfulness, so you should take it has a compliment.:)
Quite humble your assertion that you are the authority on the Bible, when many older sects of your religion interpret it differently, but again I have no interest in arguing religion. Your response was not directed at me or applicable to discussion so we have nothing to argue about.

I am not a another angry christian. I would appreciate if you wouldnt say that. Look I read the Bible I take it for what it says. Another scripture says a fool couldnt ere within..may not have the exact words but the Bible is easy to understand you dont have to have this great knowledge. I speak on what I know. I have no interest in arguing with you either. I simply wanted to state my opinion and it be left at that.

FreeAgentTrucker wrote:

As I said, the old testament laws dont really apply anymore thanks to the new covenant of Christ, if you read the bible you should be aware of that.
My issues is youre holding other people, many who might not share our Christian beliefs, to standards of your own. How does them getting married affect you personally? Should a striaght atheist couple have more right to marry than a homosexual christian couple?
As another poster said its very identical to the seperate but equal treatment many years ago. America has many cultures and religions, to prevent one group from doing something because a particular religion is against it is pretty inconsiderate. I hate to play slipperly slope, but soon after the Hindu-Americans will make eating meat against the law, would you find that fair?

I am aware of that. Thats hy Jesus came. There are many different religions. But I am not a religion or a denomination, I am a Christian. And true Christians will say the same thing. If your a true Christian, your not homosexual. Many people say they are Christians and are not as you can tell by there actions. The Bible says you will know a Christian by there fruits. n other words how they act , what they do. God made a man and woman to be together. Thus explain how 2 men or 2 women can have a child naturally. they cant, not without adoption or some other procedure. Ihave no intention of furthering this conversation. I have stated my opinion and want it left at that. Im not here to argue with anyone. I simply just wanted to state my opinion and it be left at that. have a good day

FreeAgentTrucker wrote:

As I said, the old testament laws dont really apply anymore thanks to the new covenant of Christ, if you read the bible you should be aware of that.
My issues is youre holding other people, many who might not share our Christian beliefs, to standards of your own. How does them getting married affect you personally? Should a striaght atheist couple have more right to marry than a homosexual christian couple?
As another poster said its very identical to the seperate but equal treatment many years ago. America has many cultures and religions, to prevent one group from doing something because a particular religion is against it is pretty inconsiderate. I hate to play slipperly slope, but soon after the Hindu-Americans will make eating meat against the law, would you find that fair?

You are fighting a lost cause, the angry christian doesn't even realize there are hindu americans. He or she only realizes what I would guess to be baptist. They probably don't realize there are any other religions. They don't even realize such issues as seperation of church and state. because if they did their arguement for not allowing gay marriage would not even be valid.

Im not argueing, Im sorry you fail to see that. If you cannot support your beliefs what good are they? By that logic, what of all the preists and preachers molesting children? How are their fruits? Even more relevant, you try to remove the splinter from the eye of the homosexuals while walking around with a log in your own. If you believe homosexuality can prevent you from being a christian I urge you further to read your bible. Find me verses, support your argument, otherwise you have none.
What if a heterosexual couple cannot naturally have kids? Should they be shunned as well?

get over it wrote:

<quoted text>You are fighting a lost cause, the angry christian doesn't even realize there are hindu americans. He or she only realizes what I would guess to be baptist. They probably don't realize there are any other religions. They don't even realize such issues as seperation of church and state. because if they did their arguement for not allowing gay marriage would not even be valid.

If I can help someone learn, or open them to broader beliefs, I feel its worth it. Im a baptist myself, attend a church in Newport, yet I dont preach hate. Do not judge someone by their apperance or religion, it is their actions that show the real thoughts. The other poster comes off as young to me, I hope that if anyhthing this will brong them to read their bible and interpret it themselves rather than relying on someone else to do so.

That is why protestants arent catholic any longer after all. We know how to read ;)

/badjoke

KGS wrote:

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I am aware of that. Thats hy Jesus came. There are many different religions. But I am not a religion or a denomination, I am a Christian. And true Christians will say the same thing. If your a true Christian, your not homosexual. Many people say they are Christians and are not as you can tell by there actions. The Bible says you will know a Christian by there fruits. n other words how they act , what they do. God made a man and woman to be together. Thus explain how 2 men or 2 women can have a child naturally. they cant, not without adoption or some other procedure. Ihave no intention of furthering this conversation. I have stated my opinion and want it left at that. Im not here to argue with anyone. I simply just wanted to state my opinion and it be left at that. have a good day

So it takes 2men and 2women to have a child naturally?? 4people total? No wonder I am childless I have been doing it all wrong this whole time. I am going to go find 1 more man and 1 more woman to get me a child. Also, if it takes 4people total 2+2=4, gays will remain childless because I don't know 4 of them that could get along long enough to make a baby. How funny.