Civil Unions Debate - Minneapolis, MN

Equal right, period.

If not, ban all marriage.

What makes America great are the ideas of "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" "Liberty and justice for all" and "Equal protection under the law" and that these ideals apply to all citizens. I really see people that aren't for marriage equality as un-American as you can get.

Marriage is not a right. Homosexists already have the right to pursue marriage with a member of the opposite sex, just like normal heterosexual citizens do.

The anti-commie wrote:

Marriage is not a right. Homosexists already have the right to pursue marriage with a member of the opposite sex, just like normal heterosexual citizens do.

And you wouldn't care if your son or daughter had to endure an eternal marriage as one of those heterosexuals marrried to a homosexual because you don't love them.

The anti-commie wrote:

Marriage is not a right. Homosexists already have the right to pursue marriage with a member of the opposite sex, just like normal heterosexual citizens do.

marriage is, in fact, a right. The Supreme Court has ruled so on several occasions.

Everyone should have the right!!!!

Pat wrote:

Gays can already pretend to be married. No one cares. However, what they REALLY seek is government spousal benefits. They seek money.
The benefits were setup to assist traditional marriages where the woman stayed home to take care of children and didn't accrue any benefits of her own.
Since gays can't have children (biology 101), it doesn't make sense to extend benefits to them.
Sorry to shine hard code reality on your rainbow colored parade.

Following your train of thought would also mean that hetero couples that choose not to or are incapable of having children should also not have spousal benefits. Same for couples that both work outside the home.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Our Constitution does not designate "Creator" as the Christian concept of God, nor does it end with anything resembling... "...pursuit of happiness, as long as you are a Christian."
The bottom line is that if you don't want to recognize gay marriage in your Church or as a human being who disagrees with it, then don't. But trying to force a nation of people to worship in the same way that you do is not only impossible, but will inevitably lead to hypocrisy at best and, at the very worst, encourage oppression.
The Government is not here to make sure that we follow the rules of the Christian faith. It is here to ensure that our citizens are protected against violence, force or fraud. Be a good example for men to follow and they will follow.
And, please, try to refrain from using obtuse arguments involving children or creatures incapable of making informed decisions.

Pat wrote:

Gays can already pretend to be married. No one cares. However, what they REALLY seek is government spousal benefits. They seek money.
The benefits were setup to assist traditional marriages where the woman stayed home to take care of children and didn't accrue any benefits of her own.
Since gays can't have children (biology 101), it doesn't make sense to extend benefits to them.
Sorry to shine hard code reality on your rainbow colored parade.

i do not recall seeing proof of procreation on the SS spousal benefits application...

Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, even in the animal world. It should be taught in our public schools that it's abnormal.

Jody wrote:

Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, even in the animal world. It should be taught in our public schools that it's abnormal.

So is staying in a relationship for life, same sex or not. Very few of Gods creatures are monogamous. to use the only man or to refer to man as other than the baseic animal is wrong. God selected us as the rulers of the earth.

One day that will change, man will die out. so it will not be a Against normal or against God.

You will be gone so who cares.

It looks like the folks who think they have the "right" to change society for the advantage of 5% of the population are losing by more than 3/1.
Just an observation.

The Civil Union/Same Sex Marriage debate is a distraction away from important issues facing this country today. Let the states decide whether same sex marriage is right for them and let's move on.

Google the NDAA and SOPA acts -just do it and see what comes up. Let's focus on real issues like the importance of the next election, the imploding economy and dollar, and the war being pushed in Iran that will no doubt lead to WWIII.

Remember, when a mainstream media host says there are no such things as conspiracies -that in itself is a conspiratorial statement. Never mind the fact they don't like losing their audiences to truth based reporting from non mainstream news sources.

Once you have a taste of truthful reporting you never go back to mainstream contrived corporate media.

These hosts bash Republicans and Democrats equally because they know both sides are illuminati bought puppets out to screw us.

Give alternative news sources a chance before you knock them. Download these shows to your MP3 players and listen on your way to work or whatever. All you need from mainstream media is breaking news and traffic/weather.

Exposes US Gov Corruption and Global Wide Illuminati Plots

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

http://video.google.com/videoplay... #(Skip around and you'll learn)

Exposes Wallstreet and absolutely teaches you how to protect your money from banksters

http://www.philsgang.com/pgfreeshowarchives.a...

Often Exposes NASA Disinformation and Possible Offworld Intelligence Coverups (10PM to 2am) Coast To Coast Free Archives

http://www.ksfo.com/Article.asp...

Exposes Secret/Ancient Knowledge Suppressed In Modern History Books and suppressed medical cures/prevention for diseaseses like cancer, etc. This guy is a medical doctor.

http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/

Connects Bible Predictions/Prophecy to Modern Day Events -How Illuminati uses bible prophecy to plan false flag disasters eg. earthquakes, etc.

http://www.thegospel.com/clients/the-prophecy...

For a summary of all the topics discussed on these broadcasts this is my take on it

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

These radio hosts should do a show together or at least make guest appearences on each others shows. They all value truth and liberty in their own way.

With that SOPA legislation now passed we don't have a lot of time left to get informed before the net is censored.

Ron Paul 2012.

The Truth wrote:

<quoted text>
Following your train of thought would also mean that hetero couples that choose not to or are incapable of having children should also not have spousal benefits. Same for couples that both work outside the home.

So you deny that it's about the money? It's the ONLY reason, and if your all for it, finance it yourself.

"gay marriage" is an oxymoron.

digger wrote:

"gay marriage" is an oxymoron.

They say in physics that opposites attract, no union is civil.Hence a same sex marriage will be without sex. Which will make it no different than a opposite sex marriage.

Now any moron who can not tell an ox from a spouse is a moron.

How long have you and the ox been married?

Is it a happy marriage?

An ox and a moron can never be separated, your stuck for life. iF THINGS GET TOO TOUGH YOU CAN SELL YOU OX, HAVE YOUR NEIGHBOR GORE YOUR OX OR EVEN EAT YOUR OX. sEE IT DOES HAVE AN UP SIDE.(Cat hopped on keyboard).

If any of this made sense tell explain to tot he others here, I have no idea what its about.

Truth Media Vs Fiction wrote:

Gays should be poisoned!!

If that was true, where would you get Waiters?

Remember to tip them, it could be you that gets poisoned.

You Know Who wrote:

<quoted text>
So you deny that it's about the money? It's the ONLY reason, and if your all for it, finance it yourself.

You agree spousal benefits should be limited to couples that pro-create or have a stay at home mother? That was my point. Sorry you missed it.

I do agree money, of course, is part of it. Maybe gays are sick of paying for hetero benefits.

Exntending special rights to whatever
'new' group of categorized subspecies that may be brainfarted into existence is ludicrous.
Safe, effective treatment should be in order.

Pedro Peccadillo wrote:

It looks like the folks who think they have the "right" to change society for the advantage of 5% of the population are losing by more than 3/1.
Just an observation.

Hmm