Civil Unions Debate - Marion, NC

Discuss the national Civil Unions debate in Marion, NC.

Are Civil Unions Enough?

Marion thinks marriage is between a man and a woman
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StoneMonkey

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Jan 14, 2012
 
It's fine to have a civil union but shouldn't call it a marrage as that's for a man and wife. If you're going to insist it's the same than every couple, both straight and gay, should be a union under the law, and marriage reserved as an extra non-legal religious ceremony having no basis or rights under the law.
StoneMonkey

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Jan 14, 2012
 
My caps lock is not on. Don't know why it has my post in all uppercase. I wasn't shouting... HeeHee.
AM

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#3
Jan 16, 2012
 
Separate is never equal.
Lucretia Haynes

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Jan 17, 2012
 
When you get married you can save on car ins, medical ins, and on your taxes. Why should everyone not be able to save money including gay couple. I know a lot of people who get married because of medical insurance and being able to get approved for a loan for a home, I think everyone should have this opportunity. If they are not hurting anyone else, why should it be anyone else's business. You don't approve of gay marriage, then don't do it.
Ruger-Man

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#6
Jan 17, 2012
 
Just whaqt it says, Marrage is between man and woman, Not Queers
Old Patriot

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Jan 18, 2012
 
gay marriage is unconstitutional as it would be impeading on ones right or religion while a civil union is not doing this while allowing the same benefits without invading others rightsmaking

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Jan 18, 2012
 
Old Patriot wrote:
gay marriage is unconstitutional as it would be impeading on ones right or religion....
um..no
lyn

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Jan 18, 2012
 
Lucretia Haynes wrote:
When you get married you can save on car ins, medical ins, and on your taxes. Why should everyone not be able to save money including gay couple. I know a lot of people who get married because of medical insurance and being able to get approved for a loan for a home, I think everyone should have this opportunity. If they are not hurting anyone else, why should it be anyone else's business. You don't approve of gay marriage, then don't do it.
Uuhhhh.....anyone who gets married to get a loan or insurance has the wrong idea about the whole thing anyway....it's not a business merger....

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Jan 18, 2012
 
oh, but it is

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Jan 19, 2012
 
Gay is not blessed by God!

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Jan 19, 2012
 
nor is gossip

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Jan 19, 2012
 
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Gay is not blessed by God!
yeah, like 7 out of 10 of your posts are gossip....you tell me how that's blessed by God. Bible speaks a lot more about controlling your tongue than it does gay sex, so why don't you STFU?

(I still think gay is wrong)
Old Patriot

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Jan 19, 2012
 
AM wrote:
Separate is never equal.
Exactly right seperate is never equal but in this case the seperation is not a definition of equal but of a definition of terms. marriage is a religous sanction not a state sanction the state gives the so called tax breaks to married couples that is the states fault since they seperated church and state not the churches fault. However to force a corruption of a tradition in america and the world of marriage for tax breaks i have a better idea why dont we seperate and have married couples and civil unions marriage defined by the church civil unions defined by the state in other words if you are married and want the tax breaks of a civil union then you then must goto the courthouse and obtain that union. but marriage would be a strict domain of religion.....Thats my solution seperate the terms but understand that infringing on religious organization is just as wrong as infringment of Gay rights. So seperate is never equal but who in this world is equal we are all unique and all different but we should all stand together and apprreciate and RESPECT those differances.
Old Patriot

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Jan 19, 2012
 
GOD says to love all as if they was your brother or sister.....also he says to judge not lest you be judge honestly i am judged all the time and honestly i turn a deaf ear to it I believe in God but do not condone radical religion but i reserve the right of those people to speak no matter how stupid they sound because well lets face it if they are truly following their Christian beliefs then you will see from thier words who is the true christian and isnt.
according to the Bible Homosexuality is not natural nor is it condoned by God but at the same time we are not to judge those who are but accept them into our fellowship and pray that they can improve themselves in the eyes of God but lets face it None of us are perfect how many of us have had premarital sex or done drugs or commited adultury or a huge one in this country gluttony so understanding that dont point your finger at the gays and say they are wrong becuase there is three finger pointing back at you for your vices and flaws that you may have.
Old Patriot

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Jan 19, 2012
 
Old Patriot wrote:
gay marriage is unconstitutional as it would be impeading on ones right or religion....
um..no
UMM yes!!! read your constitution and then read the orgins of marriage!
Old Patriot

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Jan 19, 2012
 
I will tell you something about myself I am not married in the eyes of the state but in my heart and in the fact that I have been with the same woman and only that woman for the last ten years i look at her as my wife and I am sure gods does also many religious zealots tell me i am wrong and the state dont care honestly i do not think it is anyones business but mine my wifes and God. and yes i call her my wife and i have never had an issue with her seeing me in the hospital or either of us talking to state officals about confidential information of the other because most people the hospital the local state pofficals and even the federal government knows that she is my Signifigant other or my wife so to be bluntly honest what is the debate about.....and by the way if we got "married " in the eyes of the government it would cost us more in taxes more in car insurance (i can not go anylower than what i am now in my car insurance premiums ) and insurance cost would kill us.We are also a one income household that are able to flourish on that paycheck.

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Jan 19, 2012
 
OP....if gay marriage were legalized no one who doesn't want to be involved in gay marriage would be forced to gay marry.

Some people say drinking impedes on their religion....so they don't have to drink, but that doesn't mean that their neighbor can't drink.

Some say working on Sundays (or Saturdays) impedes on their religion...so they don't have to work those days, doesn't mean others have to stay home.

See the point?.....you want to tell me it's immoral, gross, against biblical teaching, ok I can get with that, but you cannot say it is unconstitutional because it impedes on someone's religion. Satanism impedes on my religion, but if an individual wants to worship satan, he should have that right.

I am against gay marriage (CUs are ok with me) just so you know.
Old Patriot

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Jan 19, 2012
 
Freedom of religion....the institution of marriage...Gays say they want the rights of a married couple ok give them the rights but call it state union or civil union and make every one switch it to that marriage is a religious institution like communition or babtism So what you have here is an easy fix call the state benefits package you get from being "married" now civil union or domestic partnership seperate church and state as the government says it has and then you wont have any issues that is what i am saying give them those rights if they want em but not the institution under religion because honestly marriage is not the states to give away it is God's and the churches.
oh and it is ok i have gay friends and it dont bother me that they are gay just like i have straight friends and it dont bother me that they are straight honestly as long as they respect me i really dont care if they are gay or straight and frankly it is None of my business
Old Patriot

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Jan 19, 2012
 
All i am saying lulzers is simple that the government should have never called it marriage in the first place after the so called seperation of church and state they should have pre emtivly chrange it to domestic partnership as Marriage is a religious institution.....I just defend the constitution and the original idea of what civil liberties is....honestly this should be done now but a much more urgent question NDAA(national defense authorization act) needs to be repealed and the patriot act as well this laws are establishing a president that is basically granting terroriest a victory over the united states terrorism is ment to cause fear and change the life and way of life of thier target it has done exactly that so even after getting bin laden as long as these laws stay in place they are the ultimate victors. And i would like to qoute ben frankiln "those who give up thier freedom for security are doomed to loose both" that is exactly what is happening in this country right now so please call heath shuler and tell him to stop the insanity and present a bill repealing the assualts of civil liberties in this country NDAA SOPA PIPA and the patriot act all need to be sent to the bottum of the shreader now!
anon

Marion, NC

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#21
Jan 19, 2012
 
The mental gymnastics of justification that some people go through in order to denounce gay marriage being legalized...geez...

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