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Civil Unions Debate - Columbus, OH

Discuss the national Civil Unions debate in Columbus, OH.

Are Civil Unions Enough?

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Feb 11, 2012
 
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your fantasy is about to be shreaded.
52% of the population anywhere is not gay. even in san francisco.
it is you lieing.
Your error is in assuming that only gay people would vote against the ban. That was the ACTUAL VOTE. 52% to 48%.
Not "95% against it" as you claimed.

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Feb 11, 2012
 
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Tony -- The disapproval rate on interracial marriage nationally just before the Loving case began was at *four percent*! It wasn't until the Gallup poll of *1997* did the approval rate go above *fifty* percent!
"Reality" my dear ignorant, indoctrinated fool, the Constitution does not *care* what the approval of the majority is, because it was NOT written for *them*!
You're right, of course. That is the reason for the court's existence in our way of government... as a counter to the "Tyranny of the majority".

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Feb 11, 2012
 
Santorum 2012
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Feb 12, 2012
 
Provided that Gay and Lesbian people are allowed to have what they earn in reference to employer benefits and tax deductions.
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Feb 12, 2012
 
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Your error is in assuming that only gay people would vote against the ban. That was the ACTUAL VOTE. 52% to 48%.
Not "95% against it" as you claimed.
hey cupcake

if you could grasp what you read, my claim was more than 95% of the population was not gay. In recent measures it was over 99% straight that answered questionaires.

1% does not even measure up as a special interest.
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Feb 12, 2012
 
TonyD2 wrote:
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Your error is in assuming that only gay people would vote against the ban. That was the ACTUAL VOTE. 52% to 48%.
Not "95% against it" as you claimed.
excuse me cupcake

in Ohio they already voted.....multiple times

now there is a constitutional admendment
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hey cupcake
if you could grasp what you read, my claim was more than 95% of the population was not gay. In recent measures it was over 99% straight that answered questionaires.
1% does not even measure up as a special interest.
You got a source for this?

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hey cupcake
if you could grasp what you read, my claim was more than 95% of the population was not gay.
What you said was that 95% of the population was on your side (i.e. against gay marriage). Even the highest state (Mississippi) was only 86% against. Liar AND coward... figures.

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excuse me cupcake
in Ohio they already voted.....multiple times
now there is a constitutional admendment
Which in time will be invalidated by the SCOTUS. Then you'll have to get your buddies to go kill some judges.

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Feb 12, 2012
 
"Reality" -- once again, you ignorant fool, the Constitution does not f*ing *care* about the number a minority is -- their rights are protected!

If you can't fathom that, darling, the your "reality" is totally delusional, as usual.

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Feb 13, 2012
 
The Ninth Circuit's mascots are protected, the rest of us are demonized as homophobes, bigots and unenlightened. They didn't rule on law, they ruled on victimization and political affiliations.
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What you said was that 95% of the population was on your side (i.e. against gay marriage). Even the highest state (Mississippi) was only 86% against. Liar AND coward... figures.
sorry to show fact, that clouds your fantasy as a lie.

Post #588 & #594 reads differently from your spinning lie.

figures.

all the left is, is a big lie
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Feb 13, 2012
 
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"Reality" -- once again, you ignorant fool, the Constitution does not f*ing *care* about the number a minority is -- their rights are protected!
If you can't fathom that, darling, the your "reality" is totally delusional, as usual.
show me where in the constitution it claims marriage a right.......anywhere it even mentions it works.

and honestly cupcake who fing cares what you say or think?

PS: exactly what right is being infringed; and if given into, that law infringes on the majorities rights.

it is not going to happen, and possibly could start a war inside this country for the second time.
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Which in time will be invalidated by the SCOTUS. Then you'll have to get your buddies to go kill some judges.
your opinion.

my buddies are the 99% who are tired of special interests costing billions of taxpayer dollars in court fees crying when they don't get their way.

This time it is about religion.

can you say civil war 2.

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#617
Feb 13, 2012
 
The Ninth Circuit misread both the US and the California Constitution. Sad. They ruled for a pitied mascot, not for law. Precedent, politics and law stands against them.

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Reality Speaks wrote:
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sorry to show fact, that clouds your fantasy as a lie.
Post #588 & #594 reads differently from your spinning lie.
figures.
all the left is, is a big lie
Never voted Democrat in my life.

Read #594 again, funny how you suddenly can't comprehend what you wrote. Trying to change the meaning AFTER you get caught lying.

I said "your side is going down." and you responded:
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my side is 95% of the population cupcake
Which was a response to "your side is going down".

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Brian, darling.... what part of the Fourteenth Amendment do you NOT understand, you imbecile?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection...
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Never voted Democrat in my life.
Read #594 again, funny how you suddenly can't comprehend what you wrote. Trying to change the meaning AFTER you get caught lying.
I said "your side is going down." and you responded:
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Which was a response to "your side is going down".
lying?

lying that 95% of the worlds population is not gay?

saying otherwise is the lie.

your side is already down, by 95% in global population, admendments to states constitutions; and multiple election cycles where failure lead to admendments; and 1000's of years of history defining marriage.

go spin something useful, because you already lost the arguement.
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Brian, darling.... what part of the Fourteenth Amendment do you NOT understand, you imbecile?
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection...
OK Ms. Brilliant constitution reader.

what protection of the law do you not receive? please explain in depth with case law.

what state deprives you of life, liberty, or property without due process? please describe with case law again.

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MarleneBomer wrote:
Brian, darling.... what part of the Fourteenth Amendment do you NOT understand, you imbecile? "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection...
You didn't cite section two, where it explicitly recognizes man and woman as unequal, just like between children under 21 and adult citizens. There are no gender equality rights in the Constitution.

I don't understand taking a law meant to benefit the families' of freed slaves then radically rewriting it to allow a fundamental change in a basic cultural institution to allow same sex marriage. When they debated the 14th, Congress defined marriage to stop polygamy, we've got the same type of program with DOMA.

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