Cain's Candidacy Debate - Carterville, IL

Unless the allegations are proven to be true, then he is innocent. An affair doesn't make you evil, lots of very popular presidents have had multiple affairs. As far as the other allegations, I have seen no proof they are true.
At this point I still believe he could lead the country out of the crisis it is in now.

simplyIMO wrote:

Unless the allegations are proven to be true, then he is innocent. An affair doesn't make you evil, lots of very popular presidents have had multiple affairs. As far as the other allegations, I have seen no proof they are true.
At this point I still believe he could lead the country out of the crisis it is in now.

Hey don't worry. You can't support a this douche bag that had a 13 year affair anymore, but now you can support a different douche bag that had a 13 year affair, left his wife while she was battling cancer, has been married three times and was fined $300,000 for ethics violations while speaker of the house.

Yeah the demoKKKrats were worried to death a true black man was going to make a run for presidency, while showing blacks they can be successful in life without government handouts, undermining everything the democratic party stands for. Can't blame them for smearing mr Cain

bill wrote:

Yeah the demoKKKrats were worried to death a true black man was going to make a run for presidency, while showing blacks they can be successful in life without government handouts, undermining everything the democratic party stands for. Can't blame them for smearing mr Cain

It it widely believed that Rick Perry leaked the story and Cain's accuser Sharon Bialek is a Teaparty member. Democrats have no dog in the Republican primary fight so there is nothing to gain. Cain disgraced himself. Nobody to blame but Spermin Herman. He is after all a Republican, which is the party of personal responsibility and family values.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/brea...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45138165/ns/polit...

shill wrote:

a true black man was going to make a run for presidency, while showing blacks they can be successful in life without government handouts,

Please explain how President Obama has failed in this.^ What do you mean by "true black man". I was under the impression you guys thought his birth certificate was fake and actually believed his race was actually African. President Al Jolson? What happened to all that Kenyan jazz? Fox News preaching a new mantra? Freedom Fries!

Spermin Herman Cain wrote:

<quoted text>It it widely believed that Rick Perry leaked the story and Cain's accuser Sharon Bialek is a Teaparty member. Democrats have no dog in the Republican primary fight so there is nothing to gain. Cain disgraced himself. Nobody to blame but Spermin Herman. He is after all a Republican, which is the party of personal responsibility and family values.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/brea...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45138165/ns/polit...

shill wrote, "a true black man was going to make a run for presidency, while showing blacks they can be successful in life without government handouts, "

Please explain how President Obama has failed in this.^ What do you mean by "true black man". I was under the impression you guys thought his birth certificate was fake and actually believed his race was actually African. President Al Jolson? What happened to all that Kenyan jazz? Fox News preaching a new mantra? Freedom Fries!

I totally believe Perry started it, but the liberal media ran it nonstop and I bet they had a lot to do with other accusers coming forward.

I meant true black man as in 100% black man. Obama is just as much black as he is white. Also Obama never held a job in the real world however I believe he is a smart man and went on to law school and taught law. Obama travelled the world as a boy. Not many everyday black youth can relate to obama's life with his world travels and prestigious universities. Cain came from nothing and was an everyday black kid in the south, his parents held multiple jobs. Cain worked hard and didn't let excuses hold him back and he made it to the top. He never used politics to further hid career. His story is inspiring I don't care who you are or how many people he slept with.

Don't talk about values. Cain has accusers and allegations. Clinton had taped conversations and a jizz stained dress against him. What about John Edwards and his love child? What about all of the kennedy's affairs?

It's over with now, Cains out. They made sure a true black man never became president. Let's face it, Their goal is to keep black people angry at republicans and blame them for the situation they are in to keep them reliant on the government and to keep voting democrat. Slavery is no longer but in a sense slavery is still going on. F'n sad man.

bill wrote:

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I totally believe Perry started it, but the liberal media ran it nonstop and I bet they had a lot to do with other accusers coming forward.

I see, a Republican threw him under the bus but the "liberal media" is to blame for Mr. Cain being disgraced. Got it. No, the media never covered Edwards, Clinton and Kennedy. Your assertion is baseless and stupid.

bill wrote:

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I meant true black man as in 100% black man. Obama is just as much black as he is white. Also Obama never held a job in the real world however I believe he is a smart man and went on to law school and taught law. Obama travelled the world as a boy. Not many everyday black youth can relate to obama's life with his world travels and prestigious universities. Cain came from nothing and was an everyday black kid in the south, his parents held multiple jobs. Cain worked hard and didn't let excuses hold him back and he made it to the top. He never used politics to further hid career. His story is inspiring I don't care who you are or how many people he slept with.

Obama was raised in a broken home by a single mother. His father abandoned him. To describe his childhood as elite is inaccurate. His family was lower middle class. His story is one that black and white children can relate to and find inspiring. President Obama worked hard too. Hard enough to become POTUS. That trumps the pizza guy.Yeah, a true black man could only come from the ghetto.

bill wrote:

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Don't talk about values. Cain has accusers and allegations. Clinton had taped conversations and a jizz stained dress against him. What about John Edwards and his love child? What about all of the kennedy's affairs?

I'll speak of values all I wish and you will just have to get over it. Obama has never been accused of the behavior Mr. Cain has been engaged in. It would be fair to say that Obama's values are stronger than Cain's, Clinton, Edwards, Gingrich, Foley, Kennedy, Sanford and Larry Craigs wouldn't you agree? Oh, that's right, you don't care how many people Cain slept with. You said so and it is quoted above. Just outrage for the other side huh? I guess it would be fair to say my values are stronger than yours.

bill wrote:

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It's over with now, Cains out. They made sure a true black man never became president. Let's face it, Their goal is to keep black people angry at republicans and blame them for the situation they are in to keep them reliant on the government and to keep voting democrat. Slavery is no longer but in a sense slavery is still going on. F'n sad man.

This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read. Democrats keep blacks angry with the GOP? You give the Democrat party way too much credit. The GOP's problem with minorities falls squarely on Republicans. You seem to think minorities are stupid and easily fooled. Good thing they have you lookin' out for them. That's mighty white of you. Don't you have a Tea Party or Klan meeting to attend? Run along, I'm done with you. Goodbye fool.

You know democrats started the KKK right? and Martin Luther King was a republican? And Dr. King's niece is a big Herman Cain supporter? All facts look em up.

Ok bye

The path to prosperity for black people is the ownership of homes and businesses, not government handouts. Republicans just want to provide an environment where that is possible. It sure ain't happening with the democrats.

One more history lesson before I go, then you can go back to worshiping Obama...

This is just a History lesson . It's history... and nothing can change it.....no way to spin out of it,either....
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The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually
January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:

January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Remember that day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that
Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later
was in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS
(especially Barney) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy).
Barney blocked it and called it a "Chicken Little Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!

So when someone tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.

Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.

And where was Barack Obama during this time?

He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted for,
and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th."

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."

Go ahead and try to spin this one spermin Mermin

He's a quitter like Palin

Spermin, posting links to the chicago tribune and msnbc doesn't really prove anything. If you do not get your news from a variety of sources, you aren't getting the whole story.
I believe Romney is behind the allegations against Cain. As soon as Gingrich passed Romney in the polls, Romney began attacking him. Romney is a media whore just like Obama always has been. The only difference I see between the two is that Obama had a better publicist. I don't support Romney, Gingrich or any other Republican candidate at this point. I support Cain, not because he is a Republican but because he has never been a politician. Because this country doesn't need a career politician. It needs someone who has some sort of economic sense on their own. If all you have ever done is politic, you don't know much about how the real world works. If you have never had to make a decision without an adviser or a focus group to help you, then you can't make a decision. If you have never made a decision with the knowledge that it could get you fired immediately, then you can't make a decision. Politicians can't make decisions.
And until there is more than accusation, I will choose to believe Cain is innocent. Because a woman who has to READ what happened to her when she was "harassed" doesn't convince me. As a woman who has been put in a bad situation, I can tell you...you don't forget, you don't need notes to remind you what happened.
If more people put thought into their voting practices perhaps this country would not be in the shape it is in. Voting party lines or voting for the prince of the media doesn't usually get you a good leader. No matter what side of the aisle a person is on, I don't think anyone could honestly say they are really happy with our leaders right now. Voting is the opportunity to tell leaders, do it right or get out.