Abortion Debate - Jackson, MO

asdf wrote:

so if your daughter was raped you would want her to carry a rape baby?

asdf wrote:

so if your daughter was raped you would want her to carry a rape baby?

Professional Guest wrote:

all life is sacred..from the cradle to the grace.

guest wrote:

"All life is sacred"... so you are a vegan then? But aren't plants alive too...
That's fine, with our current CHOICE, you don't have to abort a fetus if it is counter to YOUR BELIEFS.
Newsflash, not everyone agrees with you. In fact, well over 2/3 the population disagrees with you. Stop trying to take away choices for those who don't believe what you do and pass laws that continue to take away personal freedoms.
If you don't want an abortion, good for you. If I do, it is not any of your business.
Contrary to what you obviously believe, an abortion IS a better choice in numerous cases; for mother, father, society, and the fetus.
The pro-life side of the abortion debate is primarily religion-fueled and therefore shouldn't even be up for consideration nor legislation by our "separation of church and state" government.
If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. If I do that's between me, the father, and God. Not you.

guest wrote:

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..From the cradle to the (I assume you meant) grave...
An abortion occurs prior to the cradle stage therefore by your own logic, a fetus is not yet sacred.

Lolacaust wrote:

There's a lot of starving polar bears..
'jus sayin

Professional Guest wrote:

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and yes I did mean Grave. Life begins at the moment of conception. Technically you are correct, my statement should read conception to the grave.

guest wrote:

Only religious institutions refer to anything as "sacred" You brought religion into it. It is, in fact, beliefs - no facts. That's the core problem with religion, the assumption that because those around you are like-minded and agree, then EVERYONE should agree with you.
I'm curious, what "research on rape" would need to be done? What could possibly be out there (NON RELIGIOUS) to convince someone that they should keep and bare a rape baby?
This ought to be good...

guest wrote:

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Again... YOUR Belief. Not shared by everyone. Stop trying to pass laws limiting personal choice.

luke wrote:

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What "facts" can you provide for aborting aka murdering a human being?
History shows when civilizations degenerate morally, the strong and powerful begin to victimize the weak and defenseless. Repeatedly, we have seen wicked cultures killing the weak, the elderly, the young and the unborn.
Throughout history, wicked societies have committed atrocities against babies. Many people today (including your ignorant self) think we have legal abortion because we are enlightened and progressive, and we have advanced medicine. NO, like the previous wicked civilizations, ITS AN OLD STORY!!!
Rape is a serious and hideous crime, people who commit them should be punished. Nevertheless, a baby that results from rape is an innocent human being with the same right to life as EVERYONE else. Two wrongs DON'T make a right. Killing an innocent human being is NEVER justifiable, no matter how much you try to make it!
Now please respond with some "facts" and some intelligence if you would like to further this conservation.

Professional Guest wrote:

A "rape" baby is still a human life, that deserves every conceivable chance to grow and enjoy the same freedoms you do.
Life is not something you "get rid of" simply because it doesn't fit your time table, your economic status, your lifestyle.
But then again, your mother didn't abort you so you have the right to speak your peace FOR abortion. An aborted child doesn't enjoy the same freedoms you do.

Professional Guest wrote:

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There are already laws on the book limiting personal choice. Example, Murder, Theft, Drug use, Slavery, Speeding.. I could go on and on.

guest wrote:

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You make a couple references to "wicked society" and "wicked cultures" Wicked in who's opinion? The church's? The only people I know who use the term "wicked" are the religious (and California Surfer types, dude). You are being incredibly judgmental! Once again, you are allowing religion and personal belief to shape your opinion - which is fine, but it doesn't provide a sufficient platform to force anyone else to conform to your position.
A clump of cells makes not a sentient human being. This is my belief. Your belief is that a one-celled organism consisting of 23 pairs of chromosomes is somehow a human being. BELIEF, BELIEF, BELIEF. You are free to believe that and base your PERSONAL decisions on that belief. That is not my belief. I will not be forced to succumb to your position without reasoning beyond your personal belief.
"...we sanction abortion because we have degenerated morally." Who's morality? Yours? His? Hers? Your "morality" is not shared by everyone nor is it superior or inferior to anyone else. Additionally, "morality" is a term mostly driven by religion, which we all know has absolutely NO place in governance outside of a church setting. Again, you are clinging onto your BELIEFS in an attempt to justify blanketing everyone around you with your version of morality.
The only fact you need to comprehend is that everything the anti-choice set stands for in their crusade against personal freedom is based on absolutely nothing but BELIEFS. Absolutely nothing you have said is factual beyond the simple fact that it is what YOU personally believe.
I implore you to talk to people and present your side of the argument and live your life according to what you believe, but you MUST accept that not everyone agrees with your position and that doesn't make them any less of a person. But, if you are unwilling to accept that others should be able to live their lives according to what THEY believe and that they should bow down to your version of "morality", then that does make you inferior as a human being.
I can assure you that I am much less "ignorant" on both sides of this issue than most people. Just because I present a differing opinion, that does not make someone "ignorant".