Teen Smoking Down, Survey Says

looks like we will just have to send a smoking squad to all the shools in alabama........but with hollywoods help,we can have those numbers douled in 6 months.

I think it's great that less teens are hurting their bodies with cigarettes.I have a 17yo half sister who quit smoking recently.It was some of the happiest news i had in awhile.

sandy63 wrote:

I think it's great that less teens are hurting their bodies with cigarettes.I have a 17yo half sister who quit smoking recently.It was some of the happiest news i had in awhile.

Really Sandy, you need to wake up and see that your state is blowing the tops off their mountains and affecting who knows how many states around it. This practice prevails in Eastern Kentucky, guess where all your lung cancer is? You live in the famous coal mining state and along with West Virginia, the other famous coal mining state, you lead the country in lung cancer.

“Previous research has documented increased lung cancer incidence and mortality in Appalachia....Results demonstrate that lung cancer mortality for the years 2000-2004 is higher in areas of heavy Appalachian coal mining”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18353487

"Mountaintop removal practices are common in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia...”.
http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/112...

“Historically coal mining populations have been reported to have elevated stomach cancer incidence rates…."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4005820... $=relatedarticles&logdbfro m=pubmed

Appalachians:“According to Kozar, "Radon concentrations are generally lower in the mined areas, most likely due to fracturing of rock associated with surface mining, WHICH ALLOWS THE GAS TO ESCAPE."
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp...

Map of Kentucky showing dominant cancer areas:
http://www.kcr.uky.edu/

Your city is in bright red. Are you just going to sit back and trust the government when they have studies that say one thing yet they tell you another? If your half-sister lives there too, it's good she quit smoking because that just might increase the already increased risk for lung cancer living where you do. More studies point to a combination of factors. In the case of coal mining areas, some people who smoked might not have ever got lung cancer had they not lived there according to these studies.

Even if you don't actually live there, your "Louisville Kentucky" reference is more lung cancerous than a Marlboro label.

OSHA ON SECOND HAND SMOKE

Air quality test results by Johns Hopkins University, the American Cancer Society, a Minnesota Environmental Health Department, and various researchers whose testing and report was peer reviewed and published in the esteemed British Medical Journal......prove that secondhand smoke is 2.6 - 25,000 times SAFER than occupational (OSHA) workplace regulations:

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com

All nullify the argument that secondhand smoke is a workplace health hazard.
Especially since federal OSHA regulations trump, or pre-empt, state smoking ban laws which are not based on scientific air quality test results.
Mark Wernimont
Watertown, MN.
US Supreme court decision 1992 NEVER OVERTURNED...

A U.S. Supreme court decision during the early 1970's ((Lloyd Corp v. Tanner, 407 U.S. 551 (1992)) said a place of business does not become public property because the public is invited in.

Mythos wrote:

Even if you don't actually live there, your "Louisville Kentucky" reference is more lung cancerous than a Marlboro label.

I do live in Louisville Kentucky.Because i care about my health,i have never smoked a cigarette in my entire life.And you cant smoke in bars,bingo parlors,or bowling alleys here anymore.And at the hospitals here,you cant smoke outside the hospitals anymore.Our motto here is:Smokefree Louisville.And it was very happy news when my half sis who's 17 told me she quit that filthy addiction.Good for her!I applaud anyone who quits that addiction,and dont give anymore money to big tobacco.2 coworkers are vowing to quit smoking also.:)

Here's why we never believe anything anti smokers say. You post that teen rates are down, yet the CDC says they are NOT. Which is it?
U.S. battle against teen smoking stalls: CDC
Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:28pm EDT


By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor

WASHINGTON (Reuters)- Efforts to reduce teen smoking have stalled in the past five years as states lose funding for anti-tobacco efforts and as companies use new strategies to recruit customers, U.S. health officials said on Thursday.

While fewer youths are trying cigarettes for the first time, overall smoking rates stayed stable at just under 22 percent for students aged 14 to 18 between 2003 and 2007, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.

Many fewer students have ever tried a cigarette -- just 50 percent, down from 70 percent in 1999. But CDC officials were not celebrating this number.

"We had seen this great progress from 1999 to 2003 and we were turning around this epidemic of increase in the 1990s that had everybody concerned," Terry Pechacek of CDC's Office on Smoking and Health said in a telephone interview.

"Unfortunately, that progress has not been maintained."

The CDC looked at a regular survey of tens of thousands of high school students done every year by the federal government.

The percentage of students who said they had ever smoked a cigarette fell from 70 percent in 1999 to 58 percent in 2003 and 50 percent in 2007, it found.
http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN263...

Sheri wrote:

Here's why we never believe anything anti smokers say. You post that teen rates are down, yet the CDC says they are NOT. Which is it?
U.S. battle against teen smoking stalls: CDC
Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:28pm EDT
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- Efforts to reduce teen smoking have stalled in the past five years as states lose funding for anti-tobacco efforts and as companies use new strategies to recruit customers, U.S. health officials said on Thursday.
While fewer youths are trying cigarettes for the first time, overall smoking rates stayed stable at just under 22 percent for students aged 14 to 18 between 2003 and 2007, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.
Many fewer students have ever tried a cigarette -- just 50 percent, down from 70 percent in 1999. But CDC officials were not celebrating this number.
"We had seen this great progress from 1999 to 2003 and we were turning around this epidemic of increase in the 1990s that had everybody concerned," Terry Pechacek of CDC's Office on Smoking and Health said in a telephone interview.
"Unfortunately, that progress has not been maintained."
The CDC looked at a regular survey of tens of thousands of high school students done every year by the federal government.
The percentage of students who said they had ever smoked a cigarette fell from 70 percent in 1999 to 58 percent in 2003 and 50 percent in 2007, it found.
http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN263...

Well Sheri,any amount of teens not smoking should be a reason for celebration.It does show that are smoking than before.And i think thats great.50 perecent is better than 70 percent.One less teen smoker is my 17yo sister :)).

Ooops i meant to say :it does show that less teens are smoking than before.

sandy63 wrote:

<quoted text>Well Sheri,any amount of teens not smoking should be a reason for celebration.It does show that are smoking than before.And i think thats great.50 perecent is better than 70 percent.One less teen smoker is my 17yo sister :)).

Congratulations to you and to your sister.

sandy63 wrote:

<quoted text>Well Sheri,any amount of teens not smoking should be a reason for celebration.It does show that are smoking than before.And i think thats great.50 perecent is better than 70 percent.One less teen smoker is my 17yo sister :)).

The point of my post was, excuse the expression, the "smoke and mirrors" studies and the media that publishes conflicting reports. It will eventually end your efforts you know as those people in the public, both smokers and non-smokers, who can actually READ are scratching their heads and wondering what is going on. That is happening increasingly and should serve as a warning to anti smokers and to the "journalists" who publish opposing information. It makes the groups look like the liars they are. THAT was my point.

Sheri wrote:

Here's why we never believe anything anti smokers say. You post that teen rates are down, yet the CDC says they are NOT. Which is it?

Both. There is no conflict. Did you notice that the article that started this thread says: "Results of a new ALABAMA Department of Public Health survey show that fewer high school students in the state are smoking."

The CDC survey described by the article to which you linked is a NATIONAL measure. Here's a bit of relevant info from that dataset:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm57...

"Among black male students, the prevalence of current cigarette use increased from 14.1% in 1991 to 28.2% in 1997, declined to 16.3% in 2001, and then remained stable from 2001 to 2007. Among black female students, a significant linear and quadratic trend was detected. The prevalence of current cigarette use increased from 11.3% in 1991 to 17.7% in 1999 and then declined to 8.4% in 2007."

Did you know that African American compose 26.3% of Alabama's population, as compared to being only 12.8% of the entire country?

Sheri wrote:

Here's why we never believe anything anti smokers say. You post that teen rates are down, yet the CDC says they are NOT. Which is it?
U.S. battle against teen smoking stalls: CDC
Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:28pm EDT
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- Efforts to reduce teen smoking have stalled in the past five years as states lose funding for anti-tobacco efforts and as companies use new strategies to recruit customers, U.S. health officials said on Thursday.
While fewer youths are trying cigarettes for the first time, overall smoking rates stayed stable at just under 22 percent for students aged 14 to 18 between 2003 and 2007, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.
Many fewer students have ever tried a cigarette -- just 50 percent, down from 70 percent in 1999. But CDC officials were not celebrating this number.
"We had seen this great progress from 1999 to 2003 and we were turning around this epidemic of increase in the 1990s that had everybody concerned," Terry Pechacek of CDC's Office on Smoking and Health said in a telephone interview.
"Unfortunately, that progress has not been maintained."
The CDC looked at a regular survey of tens of thousands of high school students done every year by the federal government.
The percentage of students who said they had ever smoked a cigarette fell from 70 percent in 1999 to 58 percent in 2003 and 50 percent in 2007, it found.
http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN263...

ALABAMA (there are 49 OTHER states in the CDC study) has lowered rates of teen smoking. As does NEW YORK. This is a GOOD thing. I assume that you DO NOT want YOUR kids to smoke. Correct? Yet your daughter's age group IS being targeted with the new Camel No. 9 as well as other marketing ploys. That falls under "as companies use new strategies to recruit customers". Of course, if it is OK for your daughter to smoke, then by all means, I hope like mother. like daughter. I just wonder how long it will take her to kick HER addiction.

Sheri wrote:

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... as those people in the public, both smokers and non-smokers, who can actually READ are scratching their heads and wondering what is going on.

"Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?"

http://www.curtispublishing.com/images/NonRoc...

get it wrote:

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ALABAMA (there are 49 OTHER states in the CDC study) has lowered rates of teen smoking. As does NEW YORK. This is a GOOD thing. I assume that you DO NOT want YOUR kids to smoke. Correct? Yet your daughter's age group IS being targeted with the new Camel No. 9 as well as other marketing ploys. That falls under "as companies use new strategies to recruit customers". Of course, if it is OK for your daughter to smoke, then by all means, I hope like mother. like daughter. I just wonder how long it will take her to kick HER addiction.

My daughter will turn 20 in a couple of months. She does not now, nor has she ever smoked. She is bright enough to not start smoking because she saw a pretty package and was somehow magically forced to buy it then smoke the cigs inside. Perhaps we should teach our children to think rather than ban pretty packages from the retail world. Recently, I had a talk with my daughter and asked her what it was that had kept her from trying smoking since so many of her friends at college are smokers. I asked her if the fact that I was a smoker had been an influence one way or another. Did my smoking turn her off so much that she vowed never
to smoke. She said that she simply had never been interested in either cigarettes or drugs and that she did not want to spend what little money she has on something that she is not interested in. She took a puff one time on a friend's smoke and was neither impressed or appalled. There goes that theory I just read about....just one puff and you're hooked. Her boyfriend DID smoke, but he quit and he did so without any prompting or pleading from her. She simply did not care if he did or did not smoke. I bought a pack of the Camel No.9 because I liked the package. I did not like the product enough to buy them again and went back to my old brand. I do NOT want my daughter to smoke, and I am thrilled that she has not fallen prey to it. I am also glad that she has a brain that is working and allows her to CHOOSE or not choose something based upon her needs and wants rather than a pretty package. I am also thrilled that she can allow others around her to make their choices without slipping into a frenzy. If your people want some advice about how to keep teens from smoking, call my daughter.

KHartman wrote:

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"Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?"
http://www.curtispublishing.com/images/NonRoc...

BOB is my heart. I am humbled by his presence, by his words, and by the magic that is Dylan. Ask my kids who are not as enthralled but will occasionally listen to him. As I always say to them when we talk music, "BOB spelled backwards is still BOB." I bought the Scorsese DVD and watch it when I need uplifting. Did you know that a professor at an Ivy League school nominates him for the Nobel Prize every year? He SHOULD have won long ago. More than anything though, I love that Dylan is still a bit of a rebel.

get it wrote:

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ALABAMA (there are 49 OTHER states in the CDC study) has lowered rates of teen smoking. As does NEW YORK. This is a GOOD thing. I assume that you DO NOT want YOUR kids to smoke. Correct? Yet your daughter's age group IS being targeted with the new Camel No. 9 as well as other marketing ploys. That falls under "as companies use new strategies to recruit customers". Of course, if it is OK for your daughter to smoke, then by all means, I hope like mother. like daughter. I just wonder how long it will take her to kick HER addiction.

It's all in the headlines. That is, after all, all that this largely illiterate nation reads. It should say Alabama Teen Smoking Rates...My daughter does not smoke and has no addiction to kick, including recreational drugs and alcohol.

Sheri wrote:

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BOB is my heart. I am humbled by his presence, by his words, and by the magic that is Dylan.

I knew you would get the quote and appreciate that great magazine cover photo!

KHartman wrote:

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I knew you would get the quote and appreciate that great magazine cover photo!

From time to time we do see eye to eye. This is one of those times. Thanks

KHartman wrote:

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I knew you would get the quote and appreciate that great magazine cover photo!

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