Ft. Hood Gunman's Religion Raising Question About Motive

The religion of a mentally disturbed person is not relevant as to why the person would commit mass murder. Mental illness is not exclusive to a particular religion. There are disturbed people of all faiths.

Timothy wrote:

The religion of a mentally disturbed person is not relevant as to why the person would commit mass murder. Mental illness is not exclusive to a particular religion. There are disturbed people of all faiths.

True - but you rarely hear of Lutheran suicide bombers.

It's all the fault of that "cop killer" gun that he bought. It must have a magical dark spell cast upon it that makes people snap and kill cops or military personnel.

ISLAM is the key to all these killing. None of these killings was done by any other religion.
There is a sect in Islam that believes it's all right to do these type killings.
Everyone is trying to excuse this Major for what he did. He wasn't mentally disturbed. He knew what he was doing.
DON'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR KILLERS LIKE THIS. SEE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, COLD BLOODED KILLERS!
If you and I were in the military and made some of the remarks and internet posting, this Major made, we would be in jail or a least thrown of the military. Why wasn't he? It seems that Islam get a pass in our society where other religions don't. This has to stop!

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. What was done was more than killing soldiers, it has brought undeserved attention on soldiers who are Muslim, and who are actively engaged in fighting the mentality of both the enemy of the US and having to prove their loyalties to their fellow citizens.
This Major, was a coward. He killed unarmed people. He is more than a common criminal as he wore the same uniform of those he targeted. His past history highlights the problems the military has to contend with in the name of political correctness. Had he made the same statements about the War and the desires for other Americans to be killed and had been other than Muslim, he would receive more than a negative evaluation, he would have been charged. The fact he was Muslim, he was given a transfer to another Command to deal with.

He should be fairly treated and tried under the UCMJ. And if found guilty I would hope he would hang by the neck until dead.

Joe Green wrote:

ISLAM is the key to all these killing. None of these killings was done by any other religion.
There is a sect in Islam that believes it's all right to do these type killings.
Everyone is trying to excuse this Major for what he did. He wasn't mentally disturbed. He knew what he was doing.
DON'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR KILLERS LIKE THIS. SEE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, COLD BLOODED KILLERS!
If you and I were in the military and made some of the remarks and internet posting, this Major made, we would be in jail or a least thrown of the military. Why wasn't he? It seems that Islam get a pass in our society where other religions don't. This has to stop!

Heaven Forbid!! Political Correctness does not allow us to state the obvious.... Sort of like stepping in dogshit and saying you have an organic substance soiling your shoe....

Joe Green wrote:

ISLAM is the key to all these killing. None of these killings was done by any other religion.
There is a sect in Islam that believes it's all right to do these type killings.
Everyone is trying to excuse this Major for what he did. He wasn't mentally disturbed. He knew what he was doing.
DON'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR KILLERS LIKE THIS. SEE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, COLD BLOODED KILLERS!
If you and I were in the military and made some of the remarks and internet posting, this Major made, we would be in jail or a least thrown of the military. Why wasn't he? It seems that Islam get a pass in our society where other religions don't. This has to stop!

The feds knew what he was going to do because they wanted him to do it.

Many people who apply for ROTC don't get accepted. Hasan got accepted AFTER the WTC attack. Many caucasians who apply for a commission are rejected (unless your dad is H.W. Bush). Rumor also has it he got bad fitness reports, so how is it he got promoted to Major (a total of three promotions)?

Joe Green wrote:

If you and I were in the military and made some of the remarks and internet posting, this Major made, we would be in jail or a least thrown of the military.

That applies even more so if you are a commissioned officer.

Remember what America did to Japanese/Americans after Pearl Harbor ?

Why didn't Hasan just desert if he wanted to avoid the Middle East. I would guess that many Middle East ethnic people serving in the military would enjoy a tour there (unless you're infantry).

Consider the timing of this rampage and the Generals asking Obama for more troops.

RustyS wrote:

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True - but you rarely hear of Lutheran suicide bombers.

Christians don't commit suicide after they commit murder. Suicide is unchristian according to the bible ?

Timothy wrote:

The religion of a mentally disturbed person is not relevant as to why the person would commit mass murder. Mental illness is not exclusive to a particular religion. There are disturbed people of all faiths.

Tell it to those "journalists" who brought up the DC shooter's "relationship" to the "religious right"and maybe... I will accept your case.

Otherwise...

If it can apply to one shooter... should it NOT apply to all?

Good bet this will be buried just like the other Muslim shooter who hit to soldiers just after the "religious right crazy guy" who MURDERED the abortion doctor.

There are two standards here. If this was some Cristian... the RELIGION would be the leading story... and how it brainwashed him into something this evil.

RetiredArmyNCO wrote:

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. What was done was more than killing soldiers, it has brought undeserved attention on soldiers who are Muslim, and who are actively engaged in fighting the mentality of both the enemy of the US and having to prove their loyalties to their fellow citizens.
This Major, was a coward. He killed unarmed people. He is more than a common criminal as he wore the same uniform of those he targeted. His past history highlights the problems the military has to contend with in the name of political correctness. Had he made the same statements about the War and the desires for other Americans to be killed and had been other than Muslim, he would receive more than a negative evaluation, he would have been charged. The fact he was Muslim, he was given a transfer to another Command to deal with.
He should be fairly treated and tried under the UCMJ. And if found guilty I would hope he would hang by the neck until dead.

You are 100% right, because this Major was a Muslim, he was shipped to another command to deal with. The officers that did that and did not do there job and are partly responsible for this.
I hope the military learns something from this. Treat everyone the same. Muslim or non-muslim.

Joe Green wrote:

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You are 100% right, because this Major was a Muslim, he was shipped to another command to deal with. The officers that did that and did not do there job and are partly responsible for this.
I hope the military learns something from this. Treat everyone the same. Muslim or non-muslim.

Treating everyone the same would get you labeled a racist today.

Joe Green wrote:

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You are 100% right, because this Major was a Muslim, he was shipped to another command to deal with. The officers that did that and did not do there job and are partly responsible for this.
I hope the military learns something from this. Treat everyone the same. Muslim or non-muslim.

No one but the shooter is responsible.

By your thinking 7 - 11 is partly responsible for robberies by putting their stores in convenient locations.

The military is desperate for doctors, so they get treated with kid gloves.

I find it hard to believe they allowed this guy into the military (as an officer), given what happened on 911. They knew he was a nutjob from the beginning (that's why they let him in).

Not all Muslims are terrorists. But Islam is the greatest threat to civilization and Western ways on the planet today. Islam is evil, misogyny and violence codified and excused. The Koran teaches those who wish to follow it precisely that murdering unbelievers is not only okay but good in the eyes of the demon they worship.

People who say "It is all one God! We all follow the same Book!" are totally clueless or deeply evil in hiding the corruption that came out of Mecca nearly 1500 years ago.

And to prove how wonderful and tolerant Islam is, I fully expect threats against my self for daring to speak against their cult.

GPM wrote:

Not all Muslims are terrorists. But Islam is the greatest threat to civilization and Western ways on the planet today. Islam is evil, misogyny and violence codified and excused. The Koran teaches those who wish to follow it precisely that murdering unbelievers is not only okay but good in the eyes of the demon they worship.
People who say "It is all one God! We all follow the same Book!" are totally clueless or deeply evil in hiding the corruption that came out of Mecca nearly 1500 years ago.
And to prove how wonderful and tolerant Islam is, I fully expect threats against my self for daring to speak against their cult.

Don't worry about the threats....Keep speaking the truth.It's time to stop this PC bullshit...he was nothing more than a muslim terrorist.....of course OBOMBER the appologist doesn't want anyone to jump to conclusions.....this prick was so upset due to hearing other soldiers talk about death and destruction that he decided to inflict death and destruction on innocent victims????? Funny how he didn't want to kill muslims but he had no problem KILLING AMERICANS!!!!! Just like the muslim scum that killed an Army recruiter in Arkansas. It's not where these shitheads are from.....It's what they believe in that is a danger to AMERICA....if there are more incidents like this there will be no stopping the AMERICAN people....there won't be a mosque standing in this nation.....we will no longer tolerate our citizens being killed on our streets by these mooo ham head loving scumbags.

GPM wrote:

Not all Muslims are terrorists. But Islam is the greatest threat to civilization and Western ways on the planet today. Islam is evil, misogyny and violence codified and excused. The Koran teaches those who wish to follow it precisely that murdering unbelievers is not only okay but good in the eyes of the demon they worship.
People who say "It is all one God! We all follow the same Book!" are totally clueless or deeply evil in hiding the corruption that came out of Mecca nearly 1500 years ago.
And to prove how wonderful and tolerant Islam is, I fully expect threats against my self for daring to speak against their cult.

Even the more clueless are starting to see what is happening.

The religion of peace strikes again.

GPM wrote:

Not all Muslims are terrorists. But Islam is the greatest threat to civilization and Western ways on the planet today. Islam is evil, misogyny and violence codified and excused. The Koran teaches those who wish to follow it precisely that murdering unbelievers is not only okay but good in the eyes of the demon they worship.
People who say "It is all one God! We all follow the same Book!" are totally clueless or deeply evil in hiding the corruption that came out of Mecca nearly 1500 years ago.
And to prove how wonderful and tolerant Islam is, I fully expect threats against my self for daring to speak against their cult.

So millions of Muslims, including American born Muslims are BAD Muslims because they refuse to murder infidels ?

To eliminate violence against us westerners by Islamic fundamentalists all we need do is vacate THEIR countries.

Tory II wrote:

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So millions of Muslims, including American born Muslims are BAD Muslims because they refuse to murder infidels ?
To eliminate violence against us westerners by Islamic fundamentalists all we need do is vacate THEIR countries.

Not by my measure. I think that it is wonderful that they are able to see past the hate and violence of their Holy Book and realize that in the civilized world, those sort of actions get you ostracized or killed.

Unfortunately, by the tenants of their Book, they are bad Muslims.

fooman wrote:

The religion of peace strikes again.

Well said.