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Macedonia, Greece

Jul 19, 2008

The Aegean question emerges in name dispute

The re-emergence of the so-called Aegean question, which the Macedonian government now insists on discussing with Greece, has raised anger in Athens and hopes among refugee children.

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Monday Jul 21
 
Why Greece has changed the names of Cities and villages in Chameria or Thesprotia ?
Greeks are master of lies.They dream that one day the Greek Orthodox Church will rule the world is a bubble soup.
Wake up from your dream ,indeed that rotten dream keeps you alive ,since you are acountry where the Vllachs and Albanians are the majority there.

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Peiting/Obb.
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Monday Jul 21
 
they also named the region after 1991 from NORTHERN GEECE into MAKEDONIA!
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Monday Jul 21
 
pesky wrote:
shqipies are majority in geek land, since when ?
since forever,Greece is a country build up artificially.There is not a single Greek hero in its independence by Turkey.
Indeed they wer Arvanitas or Albanians,not to mention Albanian Orthodoxs in Thesprotia ,Chameria,

Also, Vllachs were badly used badly by the Greek Church the same way the Suliots (Albanian speakers)

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Monday Jul 21
 
LouWeed wrote:
they also named the region after 1991 from NORTHERN GEECE into MAKEDONIA!
Listen Moron, get it though your thick skull, the area of Makedonia has always been called as such by Greece.

Society for Macedonian Studies FOUNDED 1939, Thessaloniki
http://www.hyper.gr/ems/

Makedonia Newspaper; April 4, 1878
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/techno...

Pan-Macedonian Association founded 1947
http://www.panmacedonian.info/

Greek schoolbook 1977 (look at lower right side)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/techno...
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Monday Jul 21
 

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The amount of propaganda is staggering. There are no limits to what someone may hear. Green card immigrants are called minorities, Northern Greece was renamed Macedonia!! in 1991!
There are two possibilities…….. people in this forum are propagandists or followers.
The difference is very important. With a propagandist (who knows what he is doing and has some kind of status) is easy to corner him by simple facts, followers on the other hand which basically mean not very well educated fanatics are best to be ignored since they have no idea what they are talking about and at the end of the day are easy to make up “facts” even facts like Bulgarian being ancient Egyptian (!).
The reason for the hate and propaganda by the people of Scopia is quite obvious, low social status, 60 years of brainwashing and fascist propaganda. The Albanians are quite different. The financial collapse of their country which had made them low cost working immigrants in Europe, the absence of any ambition as a country created a serious and collective national inferiority complex. The fact that their country basically is supported by their immigrants in Greece makes them even more hateful. After of years of humiliation as a nation and as a country being treated as Europe’s low education and cost work force they have put their hopes for national pride on nationalism.
Whether that’s gonna work out for them or not is really my business since it has to do with weak countries that they share borders with.

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Monday Jul 21
 
Greek Islander wrote:
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Listen Moron, get it though your thick skull, the area of Makedonia has always been called as such by Greece.
It is called so because has no and it is not and it will be not Yours.
You like to steal reall heros,because you do not have such.Otherwise it neans you will have to admitt selfnihilism.I quit understand ,that you are fighting to make something up that is not your in order not to end up like your Serbian brothers.
The status of EU does not immune You on Human rights but it mAKES YOU WEAKER:The reall values will come up and the reality will prevail.
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
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It is called so because has no and it is not and it will be not Yours.
You like to steal reall heros,because you do not have such.Otherwise it neans you will have to admitt selfnihilism.I quit understand ,that you are fighting to make something up that is not your in order not to end up like your Serbian brothers.
The status of EU does not immune You on Human rights but it mAKES YOU WEAKER:The reall values will come up and the reality will prevail.
Say Albo/portofola boy why don't you stroke the one-eyed monster,it might clear up your stupid Albo anal passages for proper sex with a Turk.
Makedonikos Agonas
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
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It is called so because has no and it is not and it will be not Yours.
You like to steal reall heros,because you do not have such.Otherwise it neans you will have to admitt selfnihilism.I quit understand ,that you are fighting to make something up that is not your in order not to end up like your Serbian brothers.
The status of EU does not immune You on Human rights but it mAKES YOU WEAKER:The reall values will come up and the reality will prevail.
I have a simple question to all people supporting or living under the Skopje regime that proclaims to be the 'Republic of Macedonia':

Can a person born anywhere in Macedonia obtain citizenship with your state?

It's a simple and honest question, so I'm looking for an honest and simple answer. Thank you.
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Monday Jul 21
 
"The reall values will come up and the reality will prevail" It seems true for the Albanian population in Tetovo....
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Monday Jul 21
 
Maniot wrote:
The amount of propaganda is staggering. There are no limits to what someone may hear. Green card immigrants are called minorities, Northern Greece was renamed Macedonia!! in 1991!
There are two possibilities…….. people in this forum are propagandists or followers.
The difference is very important. With a propagandist (who knows what he is doing and has some kind of status) is easy to corner him by simple facts, followers on the other hand which basically mean not very well educated fanatics are best to be ignored since they have no idea what they are talking about and at the end of the day are easy to make up “facts” even facts like Bulgarian being ancient Egyptian (!).
The reason for the hate and propaganda by the people of Scopia is quite obvious, low social status, 60 years of brainwashing and fascist propaganda. The Albanians are quite different. The financial collapse of their country which had made them low cost working immigrants in Europe, the absence of any ambition as a country created a serious and collective national inferiority complex. The fact that their country basically is supported by their immigrants in Greece makes them even more hateful. After of years of humiliation as a nation and as a country being treated as Europe’s low education and cost work force they have put their hopes for national pride on nationalism.
Whether that’s gonna work out for them or not is really my business since it has to do with weak countries that they share borders with.
You are wrong,You greeks are the more despised national in the USA and EU.
Thanks to the genrosity of Germany and France you were admitted in EU thruogh the back door.
Now is the time for little responsibilty ,since You can not live in EU and dream with Bizantinian crap.
Makedonikos Agonas
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
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You are wrong,You greeks are the more despised national in the USA and EU.
Thanks to the genrosity of Germany and France you were admitted in EU thruogh the back door.
Now is the time for little responsibilty ,since You can not live in EU and dream with Bizantinian crap.
I have a simple question to all people supporting or living under the Skopje regime that proclaims to be the 'Republic of Macedonia':

Can a person born anywhere in Macedonia obtain citizenship with your state?

It's a simple and honest question, so I'm looking for an honest and simple answer. Thank you.
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
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You are wrong,You greeks are the more despised national in the USA and EU.
Thanks to the genrosity of Germany and France you were admitted in EU thruogh the back door.
Now is the time for little responsibilty ,since You can not live in EU and dream with Bizantinian crap.
re file san poli den mas ta zalises...h theleis na se xorepso chamiko?
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Monday Jul 21
 

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Funny thing all these non Greeks fought for Greece making it the biggest Country in the Area. All these non Greeks fought for Greek Independence and for Greek Civilization. All these non Greeks died fighting not for Albania and scopia but for Greece.

Funny thing.... are you planning to die for Greece?

not even propaganda just a few idiots with their dady's computer
Maniot
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
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You are wrong,You greeks are the more despised national in the USA and EU.
Thanks to the genrosity of Germany and France you were admitted in EU thruogh the back door.
Now is the time for little responsibilty ,since You can not live in EU and dream with Bizantinian crap.
Dont bark
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Monday Jul 21
 
ARISTOTELIS wrote:
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re file san poli den mas ta zalises...h theleis na se xorepso chamiko?
Na sugamiso alla ti heqis ore pushti.
dhe nchseris me to kanis pushtidhe.

One thing at the time.I know that you are getting upset.Hey there are allways people wachting this sites,that´s matters for us.The truth that is important.
Makedonikos Agonas
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
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Na sugamiso alla ti heqis ore pushti.
dhe nchseris me to kanis pushtidhe.
One thing at the time.I know that you are getting upset.Hey there are allways people wachting this sites,that´s matters for us.The truth that is important.
I agree...
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Monday Jul 21
 
CHAMIKO wrote:
Why Greece has changed the names of Cities and villages in Chameria or Thesprotia ?
Greeks are master of lies.They dream that one day the Greek Orthodox Church will rule the world is a bubble soup.
Wake up from your dream ,indeed that rotten dream keeps you alive ,since you are acountry where the Vllachs and Albanians are the majority there.
Greece is where Greeks rule and they're number 1 priority. Anything Greek is saved everything else is an invader/occupier. So save your bullshit because nobody is listening.
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Monday Jul 21
 
NTG wrote:
"The reall values will come up and the reality will prevail" It seems true for the Albanian population in Tetovo....
Forget that, screw them both. Hopefully they go at each others throats for a long time and then settle on a stalemate. Nothing good will come from either the Skops or the Shqipies dominating the other.

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Tuesday Jul 22
 
Greek Islander wrote:
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Listen Moron, get it though your thick skull, the area of Makedonia has always been called as such by Greece.
Society for Macedonian Studies FOUNDED 1939, Thessaloniki
http://www.hyper.gr/ems/
Makedonia Newspaper; April 4, 1878
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/techno...
Pan-Macedonian Association founded 1947
http://www.panmacedonian.info/
Greek schoolbook 1977 (look at lower right side)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/techno...
ur renaming campaign failed!

we know the truth, prior 1991 there were no signs and billboards or whatever in geece like today, since 1991 u did a huge campaign ....on every corner now u can see MAKEDONIA printed in geece!

PARANOIA>>>>?????
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Tuesday Jul 22
 
LouWeed wrote:
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ur renaming campaign failed!
we know the truth, prior 1991 there were no signs and billboards or whatever in geece like today, since 1991 u did a huge campaign ....on every corner now u can see MAKEDONIA printed in geece!
PARANOIA>>>>?????
not true...

you don´t really believe that, don´t you ??

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