Mandela's B-Day message: Rich should help poor

What a crock of crap! Mandela and his wife were nothing more than terrorists. How many poor innocent people did they "necklace". You all know what that is right? That is where they douse a car tire in gas and put it around a person's head and then light it on fire. Oh yeah,,,that's your "hero". He was scum and deserves a bullet in the head, nothing less. He and his wife murdered hundreds - personally. This mistake was letting him live in prison. He should have been executed without remorse.

Not forgetting the offence of incitement to commit murder, committed subsequent to his release from Robben Island...

Mandela was and is one of the greatest human beings to have ever lived. apartheid killed more innocent people than mandela ever did.

Mandela is as great of a man as O.J.

simple as this wrote:

Mandela was and is one of the greatest human beings to have ever lived. apartheid killed more innocent people than mandela ever did.

So how many people did Mandela kill???

He killed nobody. He was very specific about attacking inanimate objects. I don't know why people like Cerebus and Walther write on this column. Maybe it is just pure racism. Certainly they know nothing about the man and his past.

I read enough. I lived in south Africa for over 5 years, I owned a home there, I travelled the country I saw his poverty, it is like nothing I have eveer seen. He is accurate there are many wealthy people remaining in South Africa, they are the fools who believe the country can survive and be a model. It can't and it won't. Everyone bows to this Mandela, they have elevated a terrorist to a peaceful god. I wish, just once, a paper would print the truth. He lives in oppulance, his ex murdering thief of a wife, Winnie drives a Benz and has the finest of homes in Joburg. Here this old fool sits, with his hugs and his kisses telling the hard working people who managed to amss fortunes they must do more. These people hire the very poor Nelson mentions, they house them, they contribute to retirement funds, they even pay their childrens school fees, they pay VAT on every item they buy, they pay a huge income tax. What this old fool wants is another Mugabe, well that is coming sooner rather than later. If it were for foreign investment and strong development from the past, South Africa would be just another African nation of butchers. The present government echelon from the Mbeki party are feeding at the trough, whilst, the poor suffer. Mbeki, the fool who REFUSED anti HIV drugs, stating HIV did not cause AIDS, has a population so infected it is scary. I esxperienced this suffering on my own property. So all these idiots in the world go to his happy birthday shower him with all the songs and listen as though he is a god. I knew so many whites in South Africa that adored this dude, I told them I thought he was a a bafoon and I still do. History will ultimately prove me correct.

simple as this wrote:

Mandela was and is one of the greatest human beings to have ever lived. apartheid killed more innocent people than mandela ever did.

yeah and all those whites who fought the Black Jacks he killed in the train station, great man my a&&

Red Dragon wrote:

He killed nobody. He was very specific about attacking inanimate objects. I don't know why people like Cerebus and Walther write on this column. Maybe it is just pure racism. Certainly they know nothing about the man and his past.

You had better get your facts straight my friend. if a school child failed to strike when told too that child was necklaced, read all about the Soweto incidents, led by the Mandella's including mini winnie. I suppose those children murdered were as you say inanimate objects, or the person who died because the medical device failed when the power lines were blown up, or those who died accidentaly when the train station blew up.

Not fogetting the ANC atrocities committed in Angola....Oooooh sorry, one cannot mention that can one???
It is not PC to draw attention to the fact that a former State President should not really have publicly advocated the extermination of a particular group of South African citizens. This is a matter of public record and is a fact.

Walther wrote:

What a crock of crap! Mandela and his wife were nothing more than terrorists. How many poor innocent people did they "necklace". You all know what that is right? That is where they douse a car tire in gas and put it around a person's head and then light it on fire. Oh yeah,,,that's your "hero". He was scum and deserves a bullet in the head, nothing less. He and his wife murdered hundreds - personally. This mistake was letting him live in prison. He should have been executed without remorse.

Another Neo Nazi redneck, just eff off EUROPEAN American bigot you know nothing about the man.

Note I called you a EUROPEAN to annoy you I enjoy pissing off NAZIS like you. Ignorant creep.

I only like to please LIBERALS.

The rich giving money to the poor.. Ha ha hahaha hahahahaha hhahahahahaa hahahahahahaha.

When hell freezes over. Until then, the rich will continue to make their money on the backs of the poor. That's why nothing is made in America anymore, that's why China owns the USA.

Funny.

Fijian wrote:

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Another Neo Nazi redneck, just eff off EUROPEAN American bigot you know nothing about the man.
Note I called you a EUROPEAN to annoy you I enjoy pissing off NAZIS like you. Ignorant creep.
I only like to please LIBERALS.

You are the one who was crying to Anagogic not so long ago and here you are with your very own racist abuse.... You are one major hippocrite, go look at the venom that you produce before you criticise others.

simple as this wrote:

Mandela was and is one of the greatest human beings to have ever lived. apartheid killed more innocent people than mandela ever did.

OK..... What is your point? How many innocent people do you have to kill to still keep your greatest human being to ever live title? By using your mentality, Stalin, Hitler and Mao could qualify determining on the number of innocents killed.

Seems to me Mandela is just a typical communist trying to plant the seeds of a failed system that will only grow dictators and dispare.

Tom Jones wrote:

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OK..... What is your point? How many innocent people do you have to kill to still keep your greatest human being to ever live title? By using your mentality, Stalin, Hitler and Mao could qualify determining on the number of innocents killed.
Seems to me Mandela is just a typical communist trying to plant the seeds of a failed system that will only grow dictators and dispare.

okay, so what is your point in naming stalin, hitler and mao? these were men who were FORCING the issue, Mandela was merely reacting to his oppressors. big difference.

obamalamadingdong wrote:

Mandela is as great of a man as O.J.

this is a grown-up conversation!

ABC wrote:

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How is there a diffrence in the Mandela ANC revolt against tyranny and the revolt led by George Washingtion and the Continential Congress against tyranny and the British?
Andrew Jackson killed and lead the slaughter of many native american indians that is how he became a considered candidate for president.
The Continental Army and ANC had the same purpose, to defeat tyranny and oppression. Ironic the English in both situations.

says alot about the english doesn't it. you come in peace, but by the time you leave, there is a trail of death and destruction like nobody's business.

ABC wrote:

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This dialouge is going south (no pun intended) you can not have an intelligent exchage with individuals who gather their information from media sources instead of objective sources... The revolution inspired by Mandela and the ANC was not any diffrent than the American Revolution inspired by the Continential Congress, both against the same oppressor the English.
Why would one be wrong and the other a major accomplishment in history in some people's mind?
The english had more of a right to America than in South Africa. That didn't stop the American Revolution.

did the english have a right to murder the people in america first (native americans), enslave millions of africans, murder millions of africans during the middle passage all in the name of we have a right (white supremacy) to this new world. and as far as the american revolution goes, it was the english of the old country against the english in the new country. bottom line they were both english and so greedy and barbaric that they turned on one another over a piece of land that didn't even belong to them in the first place.

ABC wrote:

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I'll go one better, where ever there has been in Africa European influence after the introduction of European culture there is instability between the people, like in the Middle East, you can not instill on tribual societies a system of democracy. It doesn't work.... Once you influence people with material wealth the system will become corrupt. Saudi Arabia I don't give them long before their complete destruction.
Western Culture in tribal societies don't mix.

look at the way democracy is applied. 187

ABC wrote:

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I'll go one better, where ever there has been in Africa European influence after the introduction of European culture there is instability between the people, like in the Middle East, you can not instill on tribual societies a system of democracy. It doesn't work.... Once you influence people with material wealth the system will become corrupt. Saudi Arabia I don't give them long before their complete destruction.
Western Culture in tribal societies don't mix.

i understand your point dude, and its a good point, but let's be honest with one another about the history of this world.