Zimbabwe: Mugabe 'Walked Out' of SADC Summit

the only thing i want to find is what Bob mygabe has for his fellow Zimbabweans since he held the ropes of power.His c.v is so horrible he reminds me of Hitler who accused the Jews for German economic doom.
I stiil have bad dreams of especilly Zim women walking to Zambia to sell biscuit and sorry to say,some have turned sex workers.
If the African leaders claim to love thier brohter tell him 9off and call fo early elections.Zimbabwe is not a kingdom we re an 80 year old president still rules.

Typical Africa. No surprise at all. Mugabe acted "insulted" (this is something the Africans have honed down to a fine art), stormed out and probably won't go back to the summit. So one can reasonably assume that any progress on the Zimbabwean front is again hampered and everything will stay the same. Who can blame Sarkozy for his speach on Africa accusing them of not moving forward but trapped in the dark ages?

MongooseKSA wrote:

Typical Africa. No surprise at all. Mugabe acted "insulted" (this is something the Africans have honed down to a fine art), stormed out and probably won't go back to the summit. So one can reasonably assume that any progress on the Zimbabwean front is again hampered and everything will stay the same. Who can blame Sarkozy for his speach on Africa accusing them of not moving forward but trapped in the dark ages?

I take it your not going to call yourself an
African anymore, you shouldn't. You better not,
and don't think I am defending Mugabe I am not. I am aware of what is going on in Zimbabwe.

Remi wrote:

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I take it your not going to call yourself an
African anymore, you shouldn't. You better not,
and don't think I am defending Mugabe I am not. I am aware of what is going on in Zimbabwe.

You're still not getting it, do you Remi? The problem is not what to be called - the problem is what to do about the current situation in Africa, whether you are pink with yellow dots, black with white stripes, etc. Ranting and raving about colour, nationality, who calls whom what, who wants to be European and who wants to be Britsih - quite frankly, I don't care what the hell you are or want to be! The major issues in Africa are the famine, drought, genocide, killing of innocent people, rapes, etc. In other words, my dear Remi, the question is - what would homo sapiens try to do to alleviate or correct these issues? I also would like to know your suggestion for a solution to the problem in Zimbabwe - seeing that you know what is going on there?

MongooseKSA wrote:

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You're still not getting it, do you Remi? The problem is not what to be called - the problem is what to do about the current situation in Africa, whether you are pink with yellow dots, black with white stripes, etc. Ranting and raving about colour, nationality, who calls whom what, who wants to be European and who wants to be Britsih - quite frankly, I don't care what the hell you are or want to be! The major issues in Africa are the famine, drought, genocide, killing of innocent people, rapes, etc. In other words, my dear Remi, the question is - what would homo sapiens try to do to alleviate or correct these issues? I also would like to know your suggestion for a solution to the problem in Zimbabwe - seeing that you know what is going on there?

Get rid of dictators first and then cancel the debt.

I really do no believe these criminals who talk of humanitarian crisis in Darfur or Zimbabwe when these very same demons are responsible for such awful humanitarian crisises in Iraq, Somalia etc.
Bush and his satanic synagogue pick and choose to exaggerate what they call genocide or humnaitarian crisis/.It seems Bush and his satanic synagogue's allies are exempt from being classed as genocide and humanitatrian crisis.
I am also concerned about white man and satanic synagogue's coporate capitalist crimes of genocides committed against Africans in Namibia,Botswana, South Africa. I really hope these devils will pay for this in future, having their land that they stole seized and given to Africans is the Very very least that should be done

I really do not believe these criminals who talk of humanitarian crisis in Darfur or Zimbabwe when these very same demons are responsible for such awful humanitarian crisises in Iraq, Somalia etc.
Bush and his satanic synagogue pick and choose to exaggerate what they call genocide or humnaitarian crisis/.It seems Bush and his satanic synagogue's allies are exempt from being classed as genocide and humanitatrian crisis.
I am also concerned about white man and satanic synagogue's coporate capitalist crimes of genocides committed against Africans in Namibia,Botswana,Zimbabwe South Africa. I really hope these devils will pay for this in future, having their land that they stole seized and given to Africans is the Very very least that should be done

sniper you should come out of the hole you hiding in and face the real world. leave london and head to africa to wise up. maybe you might have a more educated statement to make . it seems you have all these ideas yet you live in london. do every one a favour go back and stop being a leech

Remi wrote:

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Get rid of dictators first and then cancel the debt.

Agreeable answer. I would like to get rid of them too. Now how do we do that? Hmmm, maybe "rent-an-army" from USA. They got rid of Saddam and seems to be very happy in doing these sort of things. Only problem is - there is nothing in Zim for USA. No oil, no weapons of mass destruction (chuckle). So what are we gonna use for bait to get them there to get rid of a dictator?

truth i know you cant face the truth.... You cant get away from crimes against humanity committed against Africans by colonialists, who control most of the assets of Southern African countries.
I am looking into the evil history of Namibia committed by you man. Look at it yourself.you'll see how u man go on.

sniper wrote:

truth i know you cant face the truth.... You cant get away from crimes against humanity committed against Africans by colonialists, who control most of the assets of Southern African countries.
I am looking into the evil history of Namibia committed by you man. Look at it yourself.you'll see how u man go on.

There's a lot of crime against humanity being committed all over the world. To fixate on one country leads to tunnel vision. We are all aware of the atrocities being committed right now and all that is part of history. To dwell on it will not delete what has happened. The wisdom lies in being able to recognise that which can and should be changed to prevent it from ever happening again. To keep on talking about it without coming up with a solution or changing it - that's an even worse atrocity than the crime itself. So yes, read the history, but you will impress more people if you come up with a solution rather than repeating the same words over and over and over again...without moving forward. And while you are at it - reading up all the "evil" histories - be sure to get a few books on just about the whole world to get updated about the other evil histories so happily being ignored by some people.

sniper reading history is good but living in the present and now is hard for people like u when was the last time you went to zimbabwe not as a returning resident with pounds but as a a normal zimbabwean . for you life will be good but if you want to speak about things then its time to try on the other shoe . i have just come back after a year in harare and gweru and bulawayo ,i am tired of lining up for no bread ,no salt or sugar ,no sadza i can afford it how many people can not afford it. truthfully i am tired of hearing and reading thoughts like yours because we are in the sitiuation we are in today because of people like you. forever in the past never looking forward or moving on. you know what i have heard that speach since independance and and its still the same. the state of zimbabwe is a fact people are dying and because we in africa look away when it is black on black killing does not make it right. you know what maybe one day you will lose some one close to you because of your ways of thinking and then you will see the light remember this .(FMF) FOREVER MOVING FOWARD , USE THE THE PAST TO MAKE THE FUTUR BETTER , dont live in the past remember it and use it teachings

Posh boy colonialists should have all assets seized in Africa as they are proceeds of their crimes.
What Mugabe has done is admirable in seizing the assets of these greedy colonialst illegal occupying criminals.It is a shame that more Southern African leaders do not do the same as Mugabe.I know they may fear sanctions and pressure from western criminals but they have many who support what Mugabe has done from all round the world, and should not be afraid to follow suit.

This is not surprising, Mugabe has always been like that.But such behaviour can not be condoned.Mugabe called Smith and his cabinet a "bunch of cowboys",threatened to "box Todd" and told Carrington at Lancaster to"go to hell",Blair to "keep his england".
It must be worse with old age-and all the fear and insecurity-he fears prosecution,removal from power and even death now.

truth is world does not know the genocidal history of Namibia and u colonial crooks still own most of this country.Pressure now must be for u man to concede your stolen assets to Africans which u wont do of which your assets must be seized, though your western corporate media will make so much noise to try to stop this.

sniper wrote:

truth is world does not know the genocidal history of Namibia and u colonial crooks still own most of this country.Pressure now must be for u man to concede your stolen assets to Africans which u wont do of which your assets must be seized, though your western corporate media will make so much noise to try to stop this.

Seizing assets and giving it to "rightful owners" - not a bad idea. The problem is this - has it improved the economy or social standing of the people of Zimbabwe? No. Have they received anything else like financial funding to improve their living conditions or have they been left with these "assets" which have become a financial burden because they don't have the monetary aid to move onward? Yes. Carefully read some of the other comments on this forum. I don't have to stand in a queue for the basics (food and water)essential for all living creatures and I find it appalling that human beings should be reduced to that while the government gets fatter by the second. Isn't the reality a bit of an imbalance? How do we justify that?

Sniper you sound like an apoligist for all the bad things that a majoritary of african goverments do to the people .the reason that more Southern African leaders do not do the same as Mugabe is because they have seen how things have gone wrong chete. not because they are afraid of sanctions but seen how corruption takes place.you seem to want to justify anthing as long as its a black and white issue. Get over your complex most african countrys have been independant for more than 20 years and yet we all develop the taste for corrupt leaders and cronies . always taking never giving back to the countrys they control. farms were taken over in zimbabwe ,funny how the povo never got many of them and yet some ministers have 3 farms to they names. secondly as put early on the financial funding and back up never ever appeared to help out after the take overs, we are allways told that our universitys are par with european onces on excillance so why do we have to blame others for our faults when its our bad leaders who make them.

sniper you need to stop being an armchair politician and make a difference ,remember people should not ever be afraid of their goverments ,but goverments should be afraid of the people because we putthem in not the other way round.

Sniper wrote:

I really do no believe these criminals who talk of humanitarian crisis in Darfur or Zimbabwe when these very same demons are responsible for such awful humanitarian crisises in Iraq, Somalia etc.
Bush and his satanic synagogue pick and choose to exaggerate what they call genocide or humnaitarian crisis/.It seems Bush and his satanic synagogue's allies are exempt from being classed as genocide and humanitatrian crisis.
I am also concerned about white man and satanic synagogue's coporate capitalist crimes of genocides committed against Africans in Namibia,Botswana, South Africa. I really hope these devils will pay for this in future, having their land that they stole seized and given to Africans is the Very very least that should be done

You speak the truth.

hey sniper......you muslim smugg.

still persisting with your childish comments here on the forums i see, why don't you come down to South Africa and i will give you a good old @$$ whipping and then drop you in the township so we can see if your native brother's here like you?

SADC, the chairman, Mr. Mwanawasa suggests to put ZIm on the AGenda. Mugabe challenges him angrily asks - Who do you think you are- and walks out like the spoilt child he is. No fit to govern. But that is old news.
Hey Sniper, maybe a vacancy when he goes. There may be work for you yet.