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Jun 29, 2008

If only Mugabe were white

Patson Chipiro, a democracy activist, wasn't home when Robert Mugabe's thugs showed up looking for him.

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http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/06/...
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Jun 30, 2008
 
Where is Mugabe from?
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Jun 30, 2008
 
What is his history?
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Mugabe was born in Mashonaland Zimbabwe about 1922, brought up in a Catholic Mission, was a teacher in Ghana when he came back to Rhodesia and was persuaded to make a speech. He became popular as a result and got involved in politics. He was locked up for 10years by Ian Smith, who let him out in an amnesty. He ran off and joined the armed struggle in neigbouring Mozambique. He ruthlessly got to the top of the Zanu tree by a mixture of guile and murder. He famously had a guerrilla general Tongogora, who was more popular than himself, murdered around the time of independence. Power was pretty much handed to him on a plate in 1981, he had reconciliation with the whites, but murdered 20,000 Matabele in order to obtain total power by the mid 1980s. He has since constantly changed the constitution to entrench himself further in power, and has met all attempts at resistance with torture/beatings and murder while slowly draining the economy dry.
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Jun 30, 2008
 
It seems that he murdered anybody that was againts him or his ambition from thr word go. That is why they say "once a crook[murderer] always a crook[murderer]"
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Jun 30, 2008
 
I am realy scared, i am going to zambia for holiday and there is a concern how the zimbabwian despot can affect the boarder, i am not english, my husband is, but my country also did not accept the new goverment, i do not want to be on my honneymoon burned with my love
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Jun 30, 2008
 
zuzana wrote:
I am realy scared, i am going to zambia for holiday and there is a concern how the zimbabwian despot can affect the boarder, i am not english, my husband is, but my country also did not accept the new goverment, i do not want to be on my honneymoon burned with my love
Lets see, Political turmoil, despot running the country, rampant murders, starving people driven to desparation to get basic food. rich looking tourist arrives.. hmmm what do you think?
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Jul 3, 2008
 
I am really not sure what is a reason for UN and the other political suppoters in the world. If the UN and AU can not make any proper interventions to sort out this crisis in Zimbabwe, then i suggest that these commitees they should be distroyed.
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Jul 3, 2008
 
Mugabe is endorsed by GOD it is a sin to speak out against the Zanu-PF
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Mehli wrote:
I am really not sure what is a reason for UN and the other political suppoters in the world. If the UN and AU can not make any proper interventions to sort out this crisis in Zimbabwe, then i suggest that these commitees they should be distroyed.
In another Topix chat I suggested they disband the UN and turn the building into a monument to the millions who have died because of the UN's inability to do it's job.
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zuzana wrote:
I am realy scared, i am going to zambia for holiday and there is a concern how the zimbabwian despot can affect the boarder, i am not english, my husband is, but my country also did not accept the new goverment, i do not want to be on my honneymoon burned with my love
Zuzana, Zuzana, Zuzana.
For goodness sake, Zambia is not Zimbabwe! Just go ahead and take your honneymoon vacation. Zambia has had problem neighbors before and they are perfectly able to take care of themselves and their guests/visitors. "Security" is not unique to Europe or whatever the conner of the world you call home. Any fair minded person will agree with me that so far the Zambian people/government have done a hell of a job in terms of security, considering the history of the political/armed struggles of that area--I mean, Ian Smith's Rhodesian wars, Angolan wars, Mozambique, Namibia and Zaire (DR Congo) to the North. And, not forgetting, during the Aparthied struggles in South Africa. So, Zambia has been a frontline state for a long time and they know how to deal with mad men like Ian Smith, Botha, Mugabe, and the like. Do not fall into this rediculous way of thinking which, unfortunately, a number of Westerners seem to indulge in: "Africa is one big country." Nonses!!
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Jul 3, 2008
 
I have been to Zambia and it is OK, just take extra money for bribes. It is custom to pay a bribe when stopped by the police, even if they find nothing wrong.

It IS Africa.

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Sixpence wrote:
Mugabe was born in Mashonaland Zimbabwe about 1922, brought up in a Catholic Mission, was a teacher in Ghana when he came back to Rhodesia and was persuaded to make a speech. He became popular as a result and got involved in politics. He was locked up for 10years by Ian Smith, who let him out in an amnesty. He ran off and joined the armed struggle in neigbouring Mozambique. He ruthlessly got to the top of the Zanu tree by a mixture of guile and murder. He famously had a guerrilla general Tongogora, who was more popular than himself, murdered around the time of independence. Power was pretty much handed to him on a plate in 1981, he had reconciliation with the whites, but murdered 20,000 Matabele in order to obtain total power by the mid 1980s. He has since constantly changed the constitution to entrench himself further in power, and has met all attempts at resistance with torture/beatings and murder while slowly draining the economy dry.
Reliable sources tell me that Mugabe is actually of Malawian origin. His family name is beleived to be "Matibili", though this was in some way changed to his current name "Mugabe". It was common back in the day for Malawians and Mozambiqueans to migrate to Zimbabwe and change their names, normally to something similar to the original names eg replacing "L" with an "R" simplying because the Shona (?majority) dialect excludes L and more importantly to avoid tribal backlash. Mugabe was educated at Kutama Mission in Moshonaland West where he was admired by main for his intelectaul abilities. He left the mission school with a teaching qualification and was later fast become a key player in political affairs..
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Golden wrote:
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Zuzana, Zuzana, Zuzana.
For goodness sake, Zambia is not Zimbabwe! Just go ahead and take your honneymoon vacation. Zambia has had problem neighbors before and they are perfectly able to take care of themselves and their guests/visitors. "Security" is not unique to Europe or whatever the conner of the world you call home. Any fair minded person will agree with me that so far the Zambian people/government have done a hell of a job in terms of security, considering the history of the political/armed struggles of that area--I mean, Ian Smith's Rhodesian wars, Angolan wars, Mozambique, Namibia and Zaire (DR Congo) to the North. And, not forgetting, during the Aparthied struggles in South Africa. So, Zambia has been a frontline state for a long time and they know how to deal with mad men like Ian Smith, Botha, Mugabe, and the like. Do not fall into this rediculous way of thinking which, unfortunately, a number of Westerners seem to indulge in: "Africa is one big country." Nonses!!
IAN smith mad?maby you should say that to a Black Zimbabwean refugees face
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Jul 4, 2008
 
bullet Mafirakureva wrote:
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Reliable sources tell me that Mugabe is actually of Malawian origin. His family name is beleived to be "Matibili", though this was in some way changed to his current name "Mugabe". It was common back in the day for Malawians and Mozambiqueans to migrate to Zimbabwe and change their names, normally to something similar to the original names eg replacing "L" with an "R" simplying because the Shona (?majority) dialect excludes L and more importantly to avoid tribal backlash. Mugabe was educated at Kutama Mission in Moshonaland West where he was admired by main for his intelectaul abilities. He left the mission school with a teaching qualification and was later fast become a key player in political affairs..
if he was admired for his intellectual abilities, one has to wonder about the abilities of his peers.

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
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Jul 4, 2008
 
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if he was admired for his intellectual abilities, one has to wonder about the abilities of his peers.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
Ne'er a truer word said...
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Jul 4, 2008
 
A relative of mine is interested in entering the Green Card Lottery and asked me for information. She also sent the website link in her e-mail to me saying they had contacted her for “the urgent payment of $700.00” to start the application.
I told her this is NOT required as there is NO CHARGE to enter the lottery.

I’m posting this here so others are not tricked into paying good money when it’s not needed.
The ONE AND ONLY website to log onto for ALL information AND the application is: http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/

As you will see there is no charge, hope this saves someone some money.
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Jul 5, 2008
 
Prophet Stalin wrote:
Mugabe is endorsed by GOD it is a sin to speak out against the Zanu-PF
You are obviously a complete nutcase.Dont forget to take your medication.
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Jul 5, 2008
 
Smiths biggest mistake was that he failed to permit me to execute the mugabe
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Jul 5, 2008
 
Cerberus wrote:
Smiths biggest mistake was that he failed to permit me to execute the mugabe
You should've disobey'd Smith then.
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