Truong Sa, Hoang Sa belong to Vietnam

Stateless wrote:

I don't give up but there is nothing much we can do. Vietnamese are so divided with the last 27 years I see in the New England here. Every one wants to be a leader and guess what? There is no follower left to do anything but war with each others. They fight VCP for funding not for Vietnamese people. They don't care if there is a war between Vietnam and China or not, and if there is, they love to see China will win.
So, then if China won, you have China.
China wants the islands for oil and Vietnam is not capable to protect. They don't really care about in land, they can fight to win but they will fight for lives to keep it.
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Stateless wrote:

I don't give up but there is nothing much we can do. Vietnamese are so divided with the last 27 years I see in the New England here. Every one wants to be a leader and guess what? There is no follower left to do anything but war with each others. They fight VCP for funding not for Vietnamese people. They don't care if there is a war between Vietnam and China or not, and if there is, they love to see China will win.
So, then if China won, you have China.
China wants the islands for oil and Vietnam is not capable to protect. They don't really care about in land, they can fight to win but they will fight for lives to keep it.
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Hoang Ai Quoc wrote:

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I think it is only stupid to think Truong Sa and Hoang Sa belong to communists. Have I ever said these islands belong to communists? I said Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belong to Vietnam (read the title again!). Who cares about the VCs? We need to protect our islands, they belong to Vietnam and every citizen of Vietnam. Our ancestors shed their blood for them, our duty as the later generations is to protect them. We can't just sit back and pretend nothing happen. If the useless VC government can't do anything about it, the whole Vietnamese population need to take action. We can request the United Nations, the World to help us.

Phan Chu Trinh wrote:

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I agree those islands belong to VN. If we give the chinkies an inch they will take a mile. You cannot appease an aggressor. The Chinamen will use any concession on Vietnam's part as a sign of weakness and lack of resolve.
What I find incredible is how stupid the VC are! They haven't develop a navy or est. any domestic defense industry to resist China's ambitions. South Vietnam had a strong, modern air force and navy and the VC wasted those efforts. The ships they took over from the VNN had pigs and chickens on the ships! How retarded on these peasants!
Japan at the height of her imperial might produced the largest battleship and submarine in the world. They were able to do this because she had a capitalist economy. Japan industrialized using the best knowledge of Western science and technology.
What are the VC dummies today? They have not invested in human capital! VC education is no better than the most primitive African country. The talents of a country's citizens is a major factor that can overcome China's numerical advantage.
I agree, in order to fight the master one has to get rid off the running dogs, the VC!

fireworm wrote:

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COMMEIS DON"T CARE!!
y should we care for U
u cant even help Ur own people.
by the way lost something? i thought U won the war?

abc wrote:

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Then I Think that what WE call : "DAN TRI".
"TRI" here is mean to understand who is friend, who is foe ?????.

Phan Chu Trinh wrote:

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I agree those islands belong to VN. If we give the chinkies an inch they will take a mile. You cannot appease an aggressor. The Chinamen will use any concession on Vietnam's part as a sign of weakness and lack of resolve.
What I find incredible is how stupid the VC are! They haven't develop a navy or est. any domestic defense industry to resist China's ambitions. South Vietnam had a strong, modern air force and navy and the VC wasted those efforts. The ships they took over from the VNN had pigs and chickens on the ships! How retarded on these peasants!
Japan at the height of her imperial might produced the largest battleship and submarine in the world. They were able to do this because she had a capitalist economy. Japan industrialized using the best knowledge of Western science and technology.
What are the VC dummies today? They have not invested in human capital! VC education is no better than the most primitive African country. The talents of a country's citizens is a major factor that can overcome China's numerical advantage.
I agree, in order to fight the master one has to get rid off the running dogs, the VC!

abc wrote:

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Then I Think that what WE call : "DAN TRI".
"TRI" here is mean to understand who is friend, who is foe ?????.

Hoang Ai Quoc wrote:

Friends,
We need to be more mature in discussing this issue. It is now a matter of Vietnam, of our Nation. Please don't let our hatred of the communist regime blind our mind. We, the whole viet people, ofcourse will eventually deal with/get rid of the communist regime. On the other hand, we must deal with this matter as well. We can not lose our islands, that is a MUST do for every viet.

Phan Chu Trinh wrote:

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Well, having a modern navy would help! LOL.. The canoes and sailing junks in the VC navy won't help too much!! haha If Vietnam had an advanced economy to produce on its own the military equipment to arm her armed forces is another compensatory factor in lessening China's military might.
Israel is a tiny country of 6 million surrounded by 130 million Arabs. Do any Arab country dare to invade Israel or to wipe it off the face of the earth?
Israel has nuclear capability. She has her own indigenous arms industry capable of producing her own artillery, planes (Lavi), tanks (Merkava), rifles (Galil,Uzi) and ships. She has a very high tech economy. She has world class educational institutions and research facilities.
What the hell can the VC do with 84 million people after 32 glorious years? Under the VC, Vietnam can produce nouc mam, coffee, cashews, cuttlefish and other high tech products to the world!! LOL. Very sad!

abc wrote:

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Your idea do not work. You know it, why you say it....

fireworm wrote:

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tell me, who really want to be friends w/ commiies.
tell me is there a benifit to be your friends? even your own people hate U, commies.
even commie china hate U.
"we won the war" said abc...asian born coward.

abc wrote:

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We have a stinky fly that fly around with s.h.i.t mouth.....

fireworm wrote:

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the only way VCs will win is propose democracy and basic human rights for all vietnamese.
then i will yeild and help U, VCs.
and i will put my money where my mouth is also. and believe me, once VCs installed democracy and basic human rights more VKs & VHs and V*s and their freinds will flock to VIETNAM.
U, and your commies' stubborness will kill U. and only time will tell. so far, commies are loosing and TIME is winning. the VKs and all the Vs are only watching, believe me the Vs are not loosing any sleep over this.
i am telling U as how i see it.

NGUOI RUNG wrote:

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Phan Chu Trinh wrote:

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Well, having a modern navy would help! LOL.. The canoes and sailing junks in the VC navy won't help too much!! haha If Vietnam had an advanced economy to produce on its own the military equipment to arm her armed forces is another compensatory factor in lessening China's military might.
Israel is a tiny country of 6 million surrounded by 130 million Arabs. Do any Arab country dare to invade Israel or to wipe it off the face of the earth?
Israel has nuclear capability. She has her own indigenous arms industry capable of producing her own artillery, planes (Lavi), tanks (Merkava), rifles (Galil,Uzi) and ships. She has a very high tech economy. She has world class educational institutions and research facilities.
What the hell can the VC do with 84 million people after 32 glorious years? Under the VC, Vietnam can produce nouc mam, coffee, cashews, cuttlefish and other high tech products to the world!! LOL. Very sad!