Vietnam Said Pushing Cambodian Prime Minister To Plant Border M...
A few days ago, the Hanoi government "summoned" Var Kim Hong, chairman of the Cambodian Government Border Resolution Committee, to its country "in a move to push Hun Sen to plant border markers quickly so that ...
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They are up to the same tricks again. They just couldn't stop trying to steal our lands.
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i do not believe vietnam on this matter becauseof Vietnam's ambition to control Pre Nokor, Kampuchea krom which belongs to Cambodia.
It is not neccessary to plant border marker because kampuchea krom has not been yet return to cambodia. The current government is the puppet of vietnam. So they don not care about the lost of Cambodian territory taken by Vietnam. I wish Cambodian people who love their country help to do their utmost to get our kampuchea krom back from Vietnam. |
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First of all, we have to drop Hun Sen, who is Yuon, then clean all the KR. Right, all Youn's land is Khmer's anyway. Why Youn wants to plant border in Cambodia?
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I think that having border markers is a great ideal but not now. Cambodia should develop it's self better so it can have many resources to determine the right boundary line between the two nations. It seems that Vietnam has documents or something they are hiding and is pushing for Cambodia just so officially get the land they said they claim. Further research and time by Cambodia to delay the process should taken so everything can be done correctly without any regrets by Cambodians.
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I believe the agreement to put up the boundry markers has already made by Var Kim Hong( that's not Khmer name). It will be in september 2006. This is too soon. The longer Cambodia waits, the better. Cambodia needs time to evaluate the agreement, territorial entanglement cannot be that simple to dispute. Obviously, there is something hidden in Vietnam's agenda. The international communities must step into this matters as an eyes and ears. This is two children(Cambodia/Vietnam) deciding where to live, where are the adults?
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DEAR SIHANOUK, SINCE YOU ARE BECOME A KING OF
CAMBODIA, WHAT IS THE HELL GOING ON FOR YOUR POLITICS AND YOUR COUNTRY? DID YOU THINK ARE YOU RUNNING FOR YOUR COUNTRY RIGHT? FOR ME I THINK YOU ARE 100% LOST.AND" WHO THE HELL THAT TOOK HUN SEN TO BE THE PRIME MINISTER OF CAMBODIA. HE IS A KHMER NATIONALITY BUT WHY WOULD HE HURT TO MANY CAMBODIAN PEOPLE?"SO WE SHOULD NOT CALL HIM HUN SEN NO MORE WE SHOULD CALL HIM JOHN WALKER. |
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VIETNAMES CAN NOT PUSHING CAMBODIAN PRIME MINISTER
TO PLANT BORDER MARKER LIKE THE AMERICAN FOOT BALL PLAYERS".WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINGKING?" DID YOU THINK THAT I AM A NUT..... |
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Everyone, let's not overeact about this. The territory boundry agreement has already been made prior to this latest news. The issue here is that Hanoi wants Hun Sen to start putting those markers into the ground as soon as possible, reason for this impatience is a unclear, but most of us have already assume why. Cambodia does not have the money to make those markers, and Cambodia needs a lot of markers.
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BONG CHAM DO YOU THINK I AM {MR.PROHOK KHMER}IS A NUT....?
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The border has to be marked, that's what define one country from another. This same problem is happenning between the US and Mexico, of course Mexico does not want a clear border.
For those who like KR read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot I am beginning to feel it's a mistake for Vietnam to liberate Cambodia in 1979. |
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Within the Khmer Rouge regime, there were two factions. One was a pro-China and other was Pro-Vietnam. Vietnam and China were still getting along then. Then the relationship between China and Vietnam began to go sour, that was when the Khmer Rouge began to distrust each other start killing off each other. Many ChineseKhmer and VietnameseKhmer were killed as well during this time. This is where Hun Sen came into the picture. Naturally a student of Hanoi requested help, and that when Vietname invaded Cambodia. At the same time, China attacked Vietnam. There was a rumor that Khmer Rouge planned to kill all Khmer in Cambodia. Either way, if all Khmer were killed, there is no doubt of who will move into Cambodia to re-populate. When Vietnam invaded Cambodia, there is no doubt who will fill-in the missing population. Either way, Vietnam benifit. |
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NO, you are not NUTS, Prohok Khmer. I understand your anger and frustration. A lot of us are also very angried and frustrated. Our outburst of anger lead to misunderstanding and misinterpretation by others. We are being judged for whatever because the world is full of love, peace, and compassion, I think. Anything nagative from us can be use against us, keep that in mind. Please try to understand that Cambodia is not as bad as we a lot of us think. The country is getting better than ever. We have a new king, Norodom Sihamoni who is unlike his father which play a big part in dragging Cambodia into hell. Coincidentally King Norodom Sihamoni was born in 1953, the year when France gave Cambodia independent. King Sihamoni crowned as king at the age of his early 50's and coincidentally Jayavarman VII the greatest king of Khmer Empire became god-king around this age in 1181 and unite all Kampuja's sub-kingdoms(provinces) into the mighty empire of Southeast Asia. The table could be starting to turn around for us after 8 centuries of beating down. So think positive for our country my friend. |
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You need to check your facts, read the link I provided. The KR broke away from the Vietnamese communist party even though it was originally founded with the same ideas. China invaded Vietnam for different reasons (mainly it has to do with the USSR) even though they used that as a reason. Vietnam did not influence the KR after it broke away, KR did what it had done on its own.
Ask yourself this, would you rather have Vietnam overthrew the KR or not? Vietnam would have had no problem defending its border and just stand to watch, this is exactly what Vietnam should have done if it wanted to take Cambodian land and exterminate Cambodian people. Who do you think would have overthrown the KR? The 'international community'? I have problem defining the 'international community'. Read the link and see who still supported the KR even after what it had done. Ask yourself what the 'western powers' have to gain to support KR and by doing so were they really helping the Cambodian people. |
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Nhan, please tone down the rhetoric. If my comment is offensive to you, I apologize. According to the site you've provided, there are misinformation. It stated that KR killed about 5 millions Khmer, which I found not to be true. The estimates are varies, between 1-2 millions. The world will never know the exact number of deaths under the Khmer Rouge. http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/charlie/chinav... The above website is some of the information that lead to Vietnam invasion of Cambodia. Of course, I don't take this source to be the ultimate truth. www.moreorless.au.com/killers/pot.html www.xefer.com/2005/08/polpot The above websites are related to communist Vietnam involvement with Pol Pot. www.fva.org/0897/story4.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hun_Sen The above websites are communist Vietnam influence of Hun Sen. |
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Many Khmer are very greatful of communist Vietnam so-called " rescured" Cambodia. Many Khmer are also see this as an opportunity for Vietnam's expansion. If Vietnam didn't invade Cambodia, surely Khmer probably be extinced, then again, probably not. If this was the case, who will re-populate Cambodia, Thailand, laos, or Vietnam? When Vietnam invaded Cambodia and occupied for 10 years, surely there were between 2-4 millions Vietnamese immigrants pouring into Cambodia. |
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Hi Leak Kloun Heay Na,
Sihankhmernouk ran Cambodia down into the Viet. septic tank, and so is ah Hun Sen....how regretful....
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You are so right. I may add that the reason KR broke tie with Vietnam was Vietnam did not withdraw its troops after they were allowed to use Cambodian land to attack the South from the back. KR thought that was the intension of Vietnam to expand their territory. If they did not invade Cambodia, I don't think Khmers would be distinct. China revolution killed many Chinese, but China still exist. After all Mao is still Chinese. KR are also Khmers. Would all of them want to die and let Cambodia be an empty country? Again, I may be wrong, but I don't think they would. Look Sudan. Many people die. Have we seen Sudan turn into an empty field? Having said that what KR did was absolute against humanity. But, did they do it alone or US, China, Russia, and Vietnam had some contributions? How many people died when the US bombed the country? How many died when under friendly fired during the Vietnamese invasion? Many more reasons that 1.7 millions died then. |
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Mr. Cham & Mr. ASEAN, You both are right again. First of all let me ask you this, did Vietnam invade Cambodia, or some Cambodians realized what was wrong in Cambodia and went to Vietnam to ask for Vietnamese's help? In any case, some of us, including myself, are here chating because of that. Thanks to who ever had saved me on time. Second of all, this is 21th century people migrate thru out the world, especially now. |
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I would answer to you that it was partially kind of right that some Cambodians realized that somethings were out off norm went Vietnam looking help, mostly as refugees. My dad was of of them But, unfortunately my dad was arrested and shot to dead in from me (a young boy then) by the Vietnamese force patrolling the borders. They took remaining of us, my mom and sisters together with other Khmers to jail. After 6 months, they let us out with the promise that we'd join them to invade Cambodia. We did because we want to make Cambodia a better place too. Pen Sovann and Heng Sumrin led the way. Since my mom was a doctor, she worked as military doctor than. After they got control of Phnom Penh and most parts of the country, in 1980 - 1982 (I forgot), Pen Sovann, who was PM there, asked Vietnamese government to allow Cambodians solders to wear, I don't what is called in English, but Khmers call "Sak". But, he got refused based on the ground that Cambodian solders should not have equal rights as the Vietnamese's counter parts. This was no friendships. It is colonization. He also requested Vietnam to stop cutting trees and taking other Cambodia resources back to Vietnam. Believe me Phnom Penh was still beautiful and clean. Every thing was there as before the KR came. Not touched. But, the Vietnamese forces let those Vietnamese illegal immigrants and corrupted Khmers officers looting the city. Pen Sovann then requested all illegal Vietnamese to be sent back to Vietnam and some of the forces withdrew from Cambodia, and allow Cambodia become a free economy country. The Vietnamese refused and jailed him for more that 10 years. This was how Hun Sen got the call. Before she passed away due to cancer, my mom told me that things in past were history. No revenge is necessarily. My mom wisdom lives in me. |
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MR. ASEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND AND SMALL PART OF ME DO FEEL A SMALL SYMPATHY FOR YOU. BUT I ALSO SAY VIETNAM COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN BRUTAL AND EASILY COULD HAVE KILL YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY (SIMILARLY TO POL POT). BUT THEY DIDN'T AND THEY SPARED WOMEN/CHILDREN TO LIVED ANOTHER DAY AND SUCCESSFULLY MIGRATED TO CANADA. I AM NOT SAYING VIETNAM IS AN ANGEL OR AN SAINT. JUST LIKE USA IN THE EYES OF MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD (IRAQ, IRAN, KOREA,...ETC), EVERY OCCUPIER HAVE THEIR CRITICS. SURE, VIETNAM COULD DO A BETTER JOB UTILIZING CAMBO'S NATURAL RESOURCES. BUT LOOK AT USA, DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE IN IRAQ IF IRAQ DOES NOT HAVE ANY OIL??? COME ON MAN. DO YOU THINK MOST IRAQUI'S WANT USA TROOPS THERE? IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS W/ VIETNAM BEING IN CAMB, THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO PROTEST USA BEING IN IRAQ AND ALSO, YOU SHOULD GIVE BACK YOUR HOUSE/LAND TO THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS WHO ONCE OWNED CANADA. JUST B/C CAMBODIAS GOT THE WORST END OF THE STICK, THAT IS TOUGH LOVE. |
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