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Duy Hoang

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Aug 28, 2008
 
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In one of the largest protests since the communists came to power in 1975, 3000 Catholics protest at Saigon Redemptorist Monastery to show their solidarity with their Hanoi's brothers and sisters. Meanwhile, many Catholics in Hanoi were wounded in a clash with police last night.

More than 3000 Catholics in Saigon hold a prayer vigil at Saigon Redemptorist Monastery to protest against the police raid at Hanoi Redemptorist Monastery on Thursday morning asking for the restitution of more than 60 thousand square meters of Hanoi Redemptorist Monastery’s grounds that have been seized illegally by the local government. The prayer vigil is seen as one of the largest protests since the communists came to power in 1975.

180 priests from various religious orders in Saigon and nearby provinces concelebrated Mass to pray for the Church in Vietnam and in particular for the faithful in Hanoi.

Fr Vincent Nguyen Trung Thanh, the provincial superior of the Redemptorists in Vietnam, asked the congregation to thank God for all the graces poured abundantly on them and even for the sufferings and the persecutions.“Through events in Thai Ha, we understand the Gospel clearer…We stand clearer on the side of the poor, the weak, the marginal, the persecuted, and those suffering injustice…We see clearer the true face of a world dominated by lies, trickery, and tyranny,” said Fr. Vincent Nguyen.

Hundreds of police were sent to the site to take photos and film with video cameras.

Local Catholic sources in Hanoi report that at least four Catholics in Hanoi, including two elder women, have been arrested on Thursday. However, hundreds of protestors are still camping on the land of dispute to protest peacefully.

In an attempt to lure the protestors into violence, police grabbed a woman when she was praying at the site and took her away. In response, more than 100 protestors led by Redemptorists marched silently after the police to a station in Hanoi's Dong Da district where they staged a peaceful protest asking for the release of all detainees.

At 19h45, when at least 500 Catholics of Thai Ha and nearby parishes were praying at the police station, anti-riot police were sent to the site to disperse the protestors with batons. Many were wounded during the clash with police and dozens were arrested. A Redemptorist brother, beaten heavily by at least 6 police men, is in a serious condition.

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Aug 28, 2008
 

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Aug 31, 2008
 
Thoi may cha noi oi! Dung co dem Chua Phat ra ma chia re dan toc. Khong lo doan ket voi nhan dan va Dang CSVN, neu TQ xam lang va chiem gieng dau cua Vietnam thi Chua Phat co danh TQ duoc khong???????
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Aug 31, 2008
 
LKI wrote:
Religious persecutions
Su cam dong cua DMM doi voi dan VN.
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UBB,
Paste the above links to new members only okay, don't copy n paste on an av of 5 times a day x 720 days already. I know that you're trying to be funny, but the web site is almost out of bandwidth due to this reason...
Most of Catholics in Vietnam just don't care about their motherland. Listen to this by Nguyen Ngoc Ngan, a Catholic himself. Among other things, notice these lines from him: "Nhat Chua, nhi Cha, thu ba Ngo Tong Thong" (First is Jesus, second is the priest and third is President Ngo Dinh Diem). It's very sad that their country Vietnam is not even on the list.

Xom Dao - Nguyen Ngoc Ngan
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zenom Sr

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Aug 31, 2008
 
zenom Sr wrote:
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Most of Catholics in Vietnam just don't care about their motherland. Listen to this by Nguyen Ngoc Ngan, a Catholic himself. Among other things, notice these lines from him: "Nhat Chua, nhi Cha, thu ba Ngo Tong Thong" (First is Jesus, second is the priest and third is President Ngo Dinh Diem). It's very sad that their country Vietnam is not even on the list.
Xom Dao - Nguyen Ngoc Ngan
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This is to qualify that Mr Nguyen Ngoc Ngan used those lines to describe the way most of Catholics in his story think about their country Vietnam.

Mr. Ngan is a very open mind and progressive person to bring out a lot of bad characters in the blood of Vienamese, especially Viet Kieu.

Here are a couple more to listen to.

Nuoc Duc
Nuoc Duc
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La Giuong
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zenom Sr

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Aug 31, 2008
 
This link is from "Tieng Noi Giao Dan" a Catholic and staunch anti-VN-government website.

http://www.tiengnoigiaodan.net/anews/0802_105...
http://www.tiengnoigiaodan.net/
zenom Sr

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Aug 31, 2008
 
This is also from the open-minded Mr Nguyen Ngoc Ngan.

Viet Kieu
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Aug 31, 2008
 
LKI wrote:
Day khong phai la su chia re. Nhung vi toi ac cua loai nguoi cho nen co nhung canh nhu vay xay ra. VC hay nen xet lai nhung gi minh da lam doi voi nguoi dan VN. Nhieu luc tui nghi cs rat la nho mon, ap buc nguoi dan den noi khong cho nguoi ta theo dao cua minh thi that la qua dang. Tai sao cs muon duoc tu do ma khong cho nhan dan duoc tu do? Co phai doc tai va ich ky khong? CS nen biet trong qua nao thi se nhan lai qua do khong?
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Thoi di may cha, may cha muon dem Chua Phat ra quay pha. Chinh phu nao cung phai giu gin an ninh trat tu. May cha thay Thu Tuong Dung coi mo, tham vieng Vatican, roi may cha lam toi, doi dat, doi nha.
Rat may cho may cha day, toi khong phai la Tong Bi Thu hay Thu Tuong.
Neu toi ma la Tong Bi Thu hay Chu Tich Nha Nuoc thi toi se bo tu tat ca thanh phan pha hoai.
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Aug 31, 2008
 
LKI wrote:
Day khong phai la su chia re. Nhung vi toi ac cua loai nguoi cho nen co nhung canh nhu vay xay ra. VC hay nen xet lai nhung gi minh da lam doi voi nguoi dan VN. Nhieu luc tui nghi cs rat la nho mon, ap buc nguoi dan den noi khong cho nguoi ta theo dao cua minh thi that la qua dang. Tai sao cs muon duoc tu do ma khong cho nhan dan duoc tu do? Co phai doc tai va ich ky khong? CS nen biet trong qua nao thi se nhan lai qua do khong?
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You are committing sins.

The eighth commandment forbids lying, rash judgments, perjury, false witness, rash suspicions, detraction, calumny, tale bearing and telling secrets we are bound to keep.

7. What is a lie?
A lie is an untruth said for the purpose of deceiving others.(2482-2483)

The 8th Commandment
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Dieu Ran Thu 8
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Aug 31, 2008
 
Dear Monkey From Long Beach, LA ... With Whatever Your Posting Names Are :

I Notice That You "Love" Reading Nguyen Ngoc Ngan

Surprise : We Have 1 Thing in COMMON : I Do Too

So Buddy - To Save You Some "Posting Effort" - I Have This Page Listing Most (If Not All) Stories of NNN - along with Other Authors ... in 1 Place

* Truyen Dai :
http://zenom888.blogspot.com/2008/01/audio-tr...

* Truyen Ngan (Random Listening)- since There 1000s
http://zenom888.blogspot.com/2008/01/audio-tr...

Are You Happy Now ? Buddy !

Zenom
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Aug 31, 2008
 
LKI wrote:
UBB, i'm not committing sins, only want to point out what is right and not right.
Tai sao TC co co hoi chiem HS/TS? Vi cac ong tham lam chiem mien nam cho nen CS thua co hoi chiem HS/TS bang cach cho cac ong vay no. Neu khong tra du no, hay la TC khong can lay lai mon no do, ma chi muon lay 2 hon dao vi dau.
Nhung gi da chiem roi thi lam sao lay lai duoc?
Chi co bloodsheds & bom dan moi co the lay lai duoc thoi. Nhieu mau se do thanh song/bien & va dau se roi vi hai hon dao nay. VN yeu nhu vay lam sao chong lai voi TC? Ngoai ra an hiep nguoi dan lanh, VC con lam duoc nhung gi? Neu khong hoa hop va cho dan tu do thi lam sao dan nghe loi cac ong?
Thoi may cha dung noi phet. Trung Quoc them khat bien Dong, vi do' la gieng dau, neu Thai Lan hay Malaysia la nuoc Vietnam thi TQ van danh lay Hoang Sa, chu chang phai no nan gi ca. May cha toan la noi phet.
Nho co Dang Cong San Vietnam, ma TQ dung im tai cho. Neu may cha ma lanh dao, thi bay gio Truong Sa va toan vung mien Bac da lot vao tay TQ roi.
It nhat CSTQ da cham tran voi CSVN nam 1979 va nam 1988 tren Truong Sa, it nhat TQ da thay duoc suc chien dau cua Cong San Vietnam the nao roi.
Dau phai ke manh muon lam gi thi lam.
Cong San Vietnam thay vay chu ma ho chien dau bao ve ly tuong, con may cha chong Cong thi toan la noi phet.
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Aug 31, 2008
 
May nhoc con tuong o My khong co Cong An mang ha?
Thua co, thanh phan nao, so dien thoai nao len internet day? Nguoi bo tien ra mua mang khong phai la cua qui vi. Dung de khi len may bay khong ve VN va nguoc lai. Understand?
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Aug 31, 2008
 
zenom wrote:
Dear Monkey From Long Beach, LA ... With Whatever Your Posting Names Are :
I Notice That You "Love" Reading Nguyen Ngoc Ngan
Surprise : We Have 1 Thing in COMMON : I Do Too
So Buddy - To Save You Some "Posting Effort" - I Have This Page Listing Most (If Not All) Stories of NNN - along with Other Authors ... in 1 Place
* Truyen Dai :
http://zenom888.blogspot.com/2008/01/audio-tr...
* Truyen Ngan (Random Listening)- since There 1000s
http://zenom888.blogspot.com/2008/01/audio-tr...
Are You Happy Now ? Buddy !
Zenom
Son, your mother loves to mimi that monkey. So, be careful.

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Aug 31, 2008
 
Dear Monkey From Long Beach, LA ... With Whatever Your Posting Names Are :

Are You Enjoying the Links ???

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Aug 31, 2008
 
zenom wrote:
Dear Monkey From Long Beach, LA ... With Whatever Your Posting Names Are :
Are You Enjoying the Links ???
Zenom
No. We enjoy your mother.
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Sep 1, 2008
 
allen wrote:
Thoi may cha noi oi! Dung co dem Chua Phat ra ma chia re dan toc. Khong lo doan ket voi nhan dan va Dang CSVN, neu TQ xam lang va chiem gieng dau cua Vietnam thi Chua Phat co danh TQ duoc khong???????
dit me dang csvn dang dat, dang bien cho giac tau . Gio mày keu goi moi nguoi vao hua voi dang csvn de dang luon ca nuoc cho Tau a`?
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dit me dang csvn dang dat, dang bien cho giac tau . Gio mày keu goi moi nguoi vao hua voi dang csvn de dang luon ca nuoc cho Tau a`?
This is the stupid and obscene Phiengung.
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#23
Sep 1, 2008
 
Tien su bo thang cho "hoi cua" Vu Hong Khanh,PCT Hanoi,Tien su bo thang cho "hoi cua" nguyen Duc Nhanh,truong CA hanoi,Tien su bo thang chom chia NongDucManh.tao dit vao mat ong gia may, tao ia vao mat ong gia may,vi tui may la nhung thang di "hoi cua dat dai Thai Ha",dung Sung,Dui cui,Truyen Thong, de dan ap va boi nho nhung nguoi giao dan thai ha hien lanh Tien su bo nhung thang gook vc nay, nhung gi xau xa nhat se xay ra cho tui may
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#25
Sep 3, 2008
 
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bao dong tui cong san VC commie bac ki ham hip Nguyen Van Ly at Vietnam Court in ha noi
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#26
Sep 3, 2008
 
I am an eo-phe sucker and I b!tch a lot about Vietnam. LOL

Do you know why? Because I am really a jerk. Hahaha.

I would also do anything to show my worship on blanca masters. I would sit, if they say "sit". In other words, I am well trained and obey all of their commands like "stay", "fetch", "roll", and you name it. I would do it again and again, even without being asked. I would kiss their a$$es like PBC did all over the forum. LOL

Do you see how good I am? And, do you know why? Hahaha.

You really don't know? LOL

Watch this and tell me that I am cute. Hahaha

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Because they feed me well. LOL

What's wrong being an uncle Tom. Hahaha.
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