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Uncle Tom
Long Beach, CA
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FIRREA wrote: <quoted text>
Yes, this post confirmed that Vietnam has NO FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY.
Father Ly and many like him are doing what ALL people with HUMAN RIGHTS do. In a country with FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY, with HUMAN RIGHTS, people get to yell at their gov't, protest against their gov't, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, and even get to burn the flag of the country.
The disrupters of peace are the corrupted VCP stealing from the people of Vietnam. And this is why. http://www.topix.net/forum/world/vietnam/TKF4... my opinion Los Angeles, CA |#283 10 hrs ago Bill B wrote: No More lies spins a happy tale.... I fought with 2nd Bn, 501st Abn Inf., 101st Abn Div at Phuoc Yen then again at the Song Bo River 2 klicks NW of Hue. We had some popular force and "Black Panther" soldiers from the 1st ARVN Div with us and they were fucken worthless. Outside of ARVN Rangers and some Viet Airborne units - the rest were for the most part hopeless. The ARVN officers were more interested in shaking down their troops...the appointments to ARVN command positions were politically motivated and most didn't have a clue how to soldier or command and the rich Vietnamese sent their kids to Paris to spend time whoring while their less well off brothers were conscripted to serve in the ARVN. With all the training we gave them...all the weapons and ammo they couldn't hold out against the VC and NVA without us taking up the brunt of the fight. After 9 fucking years wouldn't you think the ARVN would stand and fight. Maybe the other readers here would like to know what unit you fight with cowboy? Bill I am with you 100%! you hit to the right button ! The south VN gorverment just a puppet. most of the battles the ARVN fought were definetly relly on American advisers. without a "father" a "son" could not walk. At the same time NVA equipped less in quantity and quality, They high comands were well plans and tactics, always "suprise the enermy". no wonder Westmoreland say: " a respected enermy" Without mentioning, there were alot of corruption shit going on in South Vietnam gorverment-system. Using American-aid turn to personel luxury. The South VietNamese had no determine to fight the communist like the South Korean do. again they were just "lazy" rellied on the "father". BIll, I am glad your goverment saw that and in 1974 they did not want to fuck with that shit anymore, less that a year they could not stand a chance. Us gorverment never paid an attention or visited Thieu or Cao Ky,(after 1975 while they were living in US) they are quite useless . Funny thing is these people here now crying "American-allied abandonned us". for my understanding "allied" like partners. In war world 2 French could be allied with American, the British could be allied with American same as the Rusian, You have this I have that then together is called "allied". In the 60s-70s what kind the shit the South Vietnam offered they called themself "allied" with US ? I am glad you are alive today Bill. take care !
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Uncle Tom
Long Beach, CA
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dumaHCM wrote: A crazy stupid Duck from Long Beach and other VC dogs are too lunatic and stupid to understand this http://www.bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/vietnam/story... And a stupid yellow uncle tom from Las Vegas can't understand this. http://www.topix.net/forum/world/vietnam/TKF4... my opinion Los Angeles, CA |#283 10 hrs ago Bill B wrote: No More lies spins a happy tale.... I fought with 2nd Bn, 501st Abn Inf., 101st Abn Div at Phuoc Yen then again at the Song Bo River 2 klicks NW of Hue. We had some popular force and "Black Panther" soldiers from the 1st ARVN Div with us and they were fucken worthless. Outside of ARVN Rangers and some Viet Airborne units - the rest were for the most part hopeless. The ARVN officers were more interested in shaking down their troops...the appointments to ARVN command positions were politically motivated and most didn't have a clue how to soldier or command and the rich Vietnamese sent their kids to Paris to spend time whoring while their less well off brothers were conscripted to serve in the ARVN. With all the training we gave them...all the weapons and ammo they couldn't hold out against the VC and NVA without us taking up the brunt of the fight. After 9 fucking years wouldn't you think the ARVN would stand and fight. Maybe the other readers here would like to know what unit you fight with cowboy? Bill I am with you 100%! you hit to the right button ! The south VN gorverment just a puppet. most of the battles the ARVN fought were definetly relly on American advisers. without a "father" a "son" could not walk. At the same time NVA equipped less in quantity and quality, They high comands were well plans and tactics, always "suprise the enermy". no wonder Westmoreland say: " a respected enermy" Without mentioning, there were alot of corruption shit going on in South Vietnam gorverment-system. Using American-aid turn to personel luxury. The South VietNamese had no determine to fight the communist like the South Korean do. again they were just "lazy" rellied on the "father". BIll, I am glad your goverment saw that and in 1974 they did not want to fuck with that shit anymore, less that a year they could not stand a chance. Us gorverment never paid an attention or visited Thieu or Cao Ky,(after 1975 while they were living in US) they are quite useless . Funny thing is these people here now crying "American-allied abandonned us". for my understanding "allied" like partners. In war world 2 French could be allied with American, the British could be allied with American same as the Rusian, You have this I have that then together is called "allied". In the 60s-70s what kind the shit the South Vietnam offered they called themself "allied" with US ? I am glad you are alive today Bill. take care !
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PBC
Long Beach, CA
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PBC wrote: The US is not a friend of Communist Vietnam. They are merely trading partners. US do not want an alliance or any special relationship with Southeast Asia's North Korean style regime.
US and VC do not share the same values and connection as other free, democratic countries.
The only friends VC have are China, North Korea, Cuba, Laos, Iran, Zimbabwe and other backward countries. LOL Even their friend, China, manages to push VC around because China do not really think VC as powerful. It is easy to push around weak people since VC have no technology, no science, no R&D, no industries, NADA!!! Hello forum readers, I am PBC. I'm really stupid and clueless. I always write obnoxious posts. I talk down on my motherland because I am a stupid and clueless Uncle Tom. There is nothing in my cranium! LOL That's why I spam all day long. I make dirty remarks that nobody bothers to read because I cannot think straight. I'm that much of an idiot and a loser. I like to kiss white a$$es. I don't know what they really think of me. They might think I'm a useful clown or they might think I give the VK a bad name since I am so, so, so dumb like an airhead VK with a big and filthy mouth!! LOL Anyway, just have fun an ignore my posts because they are worthless and mean nothing since I am worthless and mean nothing. What am I doing here, you may ask? Gee, I don't know! Hahaha! If you read this you will know that I am an idiot and a shameless liar. " Our relationship with Vietnam has also entered a new chapter, symbolized by President Bush's visit to Vietnam in 2006 and the recent visit by Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung to Washington in June. Our countries now enjoy significant and growing trade and economic ties; an emerging military-to-military relationship; successful cooperation on health and development issues; and growing cultural and educational links. Vietnam's remarkable growth over the last 15 years, which has lifted millions of its citizens from poverty, points to the transformative opportunities of the U.S.-led international economic order. Vietnam has followed a path to growth familiar to many of its successful neighbors: encouraging private enterprise, establishing legal institutions, and opening itself to global trade through membership in institutions like APEC and the WTO. And while we continue to urge Vietnam to strengthen its respect for human rights and religious freedom, we celebrate its people's rising prosperity. " http://www.state.gov/s/d/2008/107500..htm http://www.topix.net/forum/world/vietnam/T7NS...
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PBC
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Yay! US Water Polo advances to the medal round against Serbia on Aug. 22. If the US team beat Serbia then it advances to the Gold medal round!! Water Polo is the roughest, most conditioned sport in the water. Vixi are too little and can't swim so they are wimps to play water polo!! LOL
One day there will be a Vietnamese American on the US national water polo team!
haha.. VC are short ugly people!! LOL
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PBC
Long Beach, CA
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PBC wrote: Yay! US Water Polo advances to the medal round against Serbia on Aug. 22. If the US team beat Serbia then it advances to the Gold medal round!! Water Polo is the roughest, most conditioned sport in the water. Vixi are too little and can't swim so they are wimps to play water polo!! LOL
One day there will be a Vietnamese American on the US national water polo team!
haha.. VC are short ugly people!! LOL People don't want to enjoy kissing blanca a$$ like you. Yuk, what a stupid VK!
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Joined: May 4, 2007
Comments: 11917
Milpitas, CA
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Las Vegas, NV
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Ho and VCs have lied thru many p*ssy for the last 63 years, while they rob millions of dolars on the other hand for their families http://www.rfa.org/vietnamese/in_depth/Olympi...
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Joined: May 6, 2008
Comments: 2054
Brantford, Canada
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PBC wrote: <quoted text>
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I've been reading other responses to your writings too and they have pointed out the same thing. Your typical tactic is to call everybody else who happens to disagree with you, old. Does that past for a line argument in the real world? You just did it again. And you have done it to Que Huong too!
... Yup !!! Very Much Typical of "Dear Ryan Boston" of Throwing Tantrums At Older Posters and Others ... I Guess It's A Standard Behavior in Psychology Text Book Case ... Of "Getting Back at The ELDERs" Responsible For His Traumatic Youth In Dealing With Authority and Difference in Opinions ! Well - What Can I Say ! Just Putting Up With It - At Least He Replies With His Own Words and Personal View (unlike Some Other Monkey Posters) Zenom
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VK Loser
Long Beach, CA
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Like PBC, I would do anything to show my to my worship on blanca masters. I would sit, if they say "sit". In other words, I am well trained and obey all of their commands like "stay", "fetch", roll, and you name it. I would do it again and again, even without being asked. I would kiss their a$$es as I did above. LOL Do you see how good I am? And, do you know why? Hahaha. You really don't know? LOL Watch this and tell me that I am cute. Hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch... Because they feed me well. LOL What's wrong being an uncle Tom. Hahaha.
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Nimitz
Toronto, Canada
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Viet Kieu wrote: <quoted text>
There is no need to fool anyone. It's not our styles either. Some of us are doing that to let some of you (i.e. PBC, aka Phan Chu Trinh and aka Saigon Town) have a taste of your own medicine.
Get it, stupid? "There is no need to fool anyone. There is no corruption in Vietnam. It's not VCP style but All of us in VCP take bribe to let poeple in VN have a taste of VCP own medicine"
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VK Loser
Long Beach, CA
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Nimitz wrote: <quoted text>
"There is no need to fool anyone. There is no corruption in Vietnam. It's not VCP style but All of us in VCP take bribe to let poeple in VN have a taste of VCP own medicine" I have learned that bribery actually was a residue from the old VNCH time. After 1975, people living in the South from the VNCH time began to teach people from other side the taste of bribery and corruption. It's your own stupidity that evolved in Vietnam and even brought here to other forms such as cheating social assistance and doing shady businesses. Don't tell us that you don't know what I am talking about. Viet Kieu got death sentence. http://www.nguoi-viet.com/absolutenm/anmviewe... http://bolsavik.com/... http://www.nguoi-viet.com/absolutenm/anmviewe... "Medicare Fraud. The San Jose Mercury News (November 13, 2004) reported on a Medicare scam that involves busloads of mostly poor immigrant Vietnamese taken from Santa Clara County to Southern California." www.caltax.org/digest/2005/jan05_fraud_and_wa... "Do said the entire Vietnamese community had lost face by the public humiliation of arresting doctors and pharmacists in Little Saigon in front of the cameras and accusing them of conspiring to defraud the state Medi-Cal system." http://www.nguoi-viet.com/absolutenm/anmviewe... "The wife of Orange County Assemblyman Van Tran, invisible on her husband's campaign website and largely absent from his public appearances, has found herself thrust into the center of his reelection campaign because of a criminal record just now gaining attention. His wife, Cyndi Nguyen, pleaded no contest to three misdemeanors in 2004 and was sentenced to three years' probation for helping to concoct bogus medical bills at her paralegal office in Sacramento." http://www.paullucas2008.com/times.asp Vietnamese Thefts & Gangsters in Orange County http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/fac... http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/baby-faced-... http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/a-day-in-th... Vietnamese Insruance Frauds http://www.nguoi-viet.com/absolutenm/anmviewe... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150209,00... "Six O.C. residents suspected in international drug ring" Friday, December 14, 2007 http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage...
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“For a Democratic Vietnam”
Joined: Jun 19, 2008
Comments: 1040
Canberra, Australia
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VK Loser wrote: <quoted text>
I have learned that bribery actually was a residue from the old VNCH time. After 1975, people living in the South from the VNCH time began to teach people from other side the taste of bribery and corruption.
It's your own stupidity that evolved in Vietnam and even brought here to other forms such as cheating social assistance and doing shady businesses.
Don't tell us that you don't know what I am talking about.
Viet Kieu got death sentence. It's a proven fact that you and people like you can only copy bad and sinister practice. ellen boasts about learning the brutal techniques by the rouge US police (which American public detests) to bring home to deal with Vietnamese abcdef swears and uses foul languages because others used them first And you, did you start out as a copy and paste specialist? Who is the loser here? You can't even offer a meaningful counter argument. Such a hopeless soul. It's a waste for human kind
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Uncle Tom
Los Angeles, CA
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Phiengung wrote: <quoted text>
It's a proven fact that you and people like you can only copy bad and sinister practice.
ellen boasts about learning the brutal techniques by the rouge US police (which American public detests) to bring home to deal with Vietnamese
abcdef swears and uses foul languages because others used them first
And you, did you start out as a copy and paste specialist?
Who is the loser here? You can't even offer a meaningful counter argument. Such a hopeless soul. It's a waste for human kind You definitely described yourself succinctly, including "It's a waste for human kind". By the way, your English is shabby. Say please then I will correct it for you.
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Uncle Tom
Los Angeles, CA
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Phiengung wrote: <quoted text>
It's a proven fact that you and people like you can only copy bad and sinister practice.
ellen boasts about learning the brutal techniques by the rouge US police (which American public detests) to bring home to deal with Vietnamese
abcdef swears and uses foul languages because others used them first
And you, did you start out as a copy and paste specialist?
Who is the loser here? You can't even offer a meaningful counter argument. Such a hopeless soul. It's a waste for human kind Also read these, big mouth. Corruptions under Ngo Dinh Diem & Ngo Dinh Nhu - system of extortion, payoffs,...,extortion, bribery, and theft of government property. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/628... "Thieu elements of the Vietnamese army (ARVN) manage much of the distribution and sale of heroin to GIs inside South Vietnam." http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,9053... http://members.tripod.com/~nguyentin/heroin-4... Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker’s Cable Concerning Corruption in South Vietnam http://www.generalhieu.com/bunker-2.htm http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/exhibits/v... http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/exhibits/v... http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/exhibits/v...
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Humble
Montreal, Canada
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VK Loser wrote: <quoted text>
I have learned that bribery actually was a residue from the old VNCH time. After 1975, people living in the South from the VNCH time began to teach people from other side the taste of bribery and corruption.
It's your own stupidity that evolved in Vietnam and even brought here to other forms such as cheating social assistance and doing shady businesses.
Don't tell us that you don't know what I am talking about... From what you wrote: the elites (CSVN)learned the bad things (corruption) from the losers (VNCH. Should it be the other way around? The less smart has to learn from the smarter?
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Uncle Tom
Los Angeles, CA
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Humble wrote: <quoted text>
From what you wrote: the elites (CSVN)learned the bad things (corruption) from the losers (VNCH.
Should it be the other way around?
The less smart has to learn from the smarter? I am sure you are not that stupid and know what had happened. If not, change your name.
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Viet Luu Huong-i
Phoenix, AZ
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zenom wrote: <quoted text>
Sorry Dear "Viet Kieu" !!!
Your Lame Defence "There is no need to fool anyone. It's not our styles either. Some of us are doing that..." is Just a PURELY "Monkeyed Logic" ...
Zenom again la` Lo gi` C ? Lo no^? va` Lo>Law ? ;-))))
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Mr Pickwick
Montreal, Canada
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21 "Not everyone who says to me,'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
23 Then I will tell them plainly,'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'(NIV)
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The VNCH underlings like to say:
1/ "Oh... We love our fatherland so much that we can't bear the truth that it's being ruled by the uneducated Viet Cong ....We are on the right side and we will go to heaven" (sic)
2/ "Ahhh...People of Vietnam please stand up and demand your rights and freedom ....Together we will overthow the VCs ..Can't you see the USSR and the Eastern bloc have already crumbled. We predict that the VCs will crumble soon.. Ahh.. may be very soon .
3/ Away...away from me, you evil doers!!!
4/ Harm seek, harm find. People are not easily duped.
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Phiengung
Canberra, Australia
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Uncle Tom wrote: <quoted text> Also read these, big mouth. Corruptions under Ngo Dinh Diem & Ngo Dinh Nhu - system of extortion, payoffs,...,extortion, bribery, and theft of government property. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/628... "Thieu elements of the Vietnamese army (ARVN) manage much of the distribution and sale of heroin to GIs inside South Vietnam." http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,9053... http://members.tripod.com/~nguyentin/heroin-4... Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker’s Cable Concerning Corruption in South Vietnam http://www.generalhieu.com/bunker-2.htm http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/exhibits/v... http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/exhibits/v... http://www.ford.utexas.edu/library/exhibits/v... Please excuse my deficiency English but the main argument is that you cited materials purported the bad practices by whoever in power in VNCH to justify vietcong regime's incompetency and corruption. You even go further to say that vietcongs learn these bad practices from corrupted South Vietnamese people? Who are the liberators? You cited material about India failure to justify vietcong regime's failure. Why must you and people like you rely on other failure to justify your failure or not so success? Language skill is just one aspect. Judging people bases on one aspect is quite shallow and tedious. Look at the bigger picture. Re-examine your whole life on this forum and see how much have you contributed if copy and paste are taken out of the equation? Is there any cursing in my comment? I hope that it doesn't hurt your pride!
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Phiengung
Canberra, Australia
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Humble wrote: <quoted text>
From what you wrote: the elites (CSVN)learned the bad things (corruption) from the losers (VNCH.
Should it be the other way around?
The less smart has to learn from the smarter? Humble, I think we have enough exchanges with these people. It is a sad case for these people have spent much of their time and effort trying to defend the current vietcong regime with such shallow arguments using very silly and childish antics. Have you noted that each time they run out of excuse, they resort to foul language and name callings. These people are at least in their 30s, 40s and could be 50s but they are behaving like kindergarten kids. How can anyone with a normal and functioning brain argue that vietcong officials corrupt because they are taught by VNCH's corrupted people? Didn't they "re-educate" all VNCH's officials and people? People follow bad practices because they don't have a strong moral. It is as simple as that. vietcongs have a real problem as far as morality is concerned.
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abc
West Palm Beach, FL
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FIRREA wrote: <quoted text>
Yes, this post confirmed that Vietnam has NO FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY.
Father Ly and many like him are doing what ALL people with HUMAN RIGHTS do. In a country with FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY, with HUMAN RIGHTS, people get to yell at their gov't, protest against their gov't, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, and even get to burn the flag of the country.
The disrupters of peace are the corrupted VCP stealing from the people of Vietnam. As you know what will happen to you if you were in the court house in USA and acted like Nguyen Van Ly who was kicked at the table and yelling ??? I need your reply if you are knowing anything about law and order in civil world.Seeing the you tube at Nguyen Van Ly, I don't think he is a normal person the ways he was reacting.
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