Want to move to Venezuela can anyone help?
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Just to let you know people that I have moved to Venezuela and I am so happy indeed. I am visiting some family in the UK right now but really looking forward to get back home.
Thanks a lot to all for your replies and opinions. If you want to know how life is there in Venezuela you should try! go and discover it yourself.. let me know we could meet up, i could get you to some really nice places! Keith |
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“The Truth” Joined: Apr 3, 2008 Comments: 427 |
Como te quedo el ojo MercurioCromo?
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“The Truth” Joined: Apr 3, 2008 Comments: 427 |
Where are you living in Venezuela? |
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“The Voice of Reason” Joined: Sep 20, 2007 Comments: 394 California ISP: Martinsville, NJ |
Intacto mi pana. No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver. Escribir estupideces en Topix para apoyar a la estupidez que Chavez esta haciendo con Venezuela es facilito. As per Keith goes, yes Venezuela is full of nice places and people. It is how people live that makes it so dificult. All you need is to experience the crime and insecurity, the traffic, the roads, the corruption, to break anybody's will. Unless, of course, he is priviledged enough to live above that. Like all government Chavistas are. Angrier than ever, MercuryCrome. |
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1 I spend alot of time in Venezuela, to listen to the barking of US citizens that are upset with Chavez, it just show the arrogance that we posess. Where is socialismo? Where at Sambil? CCCT?, or San Ignacio? C'mon, go visit the missions. See how handicapped are being integrated into society. Go see Barrio Adentro. Go see the building that is going on in the barrios. The slums were not created by Chavez. Look at the [political history of Venezuela. Read Chavez Sin Uniforme by Alberto Barreras Tyska. Stop the old Miami Cuban rhetoric. Venezuela is not Cuba, and it will never be. Dont let peoples criticism of Chavez keep you uninformed. Every political leader has his critics. The missions are working and serving those in needs. The rich have already taken their money to Miami. Go live in Venezuela. It is paradise. maybe not Caracas, but Merida, Los Nevados, Adricoro. There is plenty to do. It is not an armed struggle, but a fiscal reform. How do I know? I just returned yesterday after 2 months. It is expensive if you eat in restaurants, but it is okay if you eat the wonderful empanadas and arepas. The people are warm and friendly. So I see that many who write here have never been to Venezuela. Dont be discouraged. Go see for yourself! Have fun, and enjoy Canaima. Viva Venezuela...And do you know who manufactures all those red shirts in Venezuela, the same people who form the oppposition. Noone is leaving Venezuela in droves. In fact many are returning. Get your information straight! |
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“The Truth” Joined: Apr 3, 2008 Comments: 427 |
Como te quedo el ojo mercurioCromo? |
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“The Voice of Reason” Joined: Sep 20, 2007 Comments: 394 California ISP: Martinsville, NJ |
Intacto de nuevo mi pana. Como te he dicho mas de una vez, no hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver. El chile rojo ese que pretende venderme ese panfleto comunista se lo puede meter donde no brilla el sol. Yo creci en Venezuela, yo conozco todas esas maravillas y las disfrute en pleno. Yo he visto los muertos y los barrios tambien. Y lo peor es que mientras las gente le tira una alfombra roja a Chavez y lo adoran como rey, los desposeidos siguen desposeidos. La unica diferencia es que ahora son mendigos de las misiones y de un gobierno que no quiere promover desarrollo soical sino vivir de una renta petrolera y de una division social profunda. Socialismo del siglo XXI? Como diria Mafalda ZOOcialismo del siglo XXI... |
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First of all the oiil is Venezolano, not that of the gringo as it has historically been during past presidencies! Ah..and the manifesto communismo? Where is it active in Venezuela? You claim that Venezuela is coimmunist? Where in Sambil or in the country club. Que cosa!! Sounds like the same rhetoric of the Cuban nationals who have whined for decades, but have now taken control of Miami as Fidel has of Cuba.
Obviously you would rather criticize Chavez just as Guliuani did, until we found out that Guilaiani's law firm was on Chavez's bank roll!! vAh, are you gaining from the Chavistas too? Obviously you have not been in the barrios to work in any social project., because your eyes and your anger are redder than anything Chavez can be! Obviouslu it is easier to negate any progress from the Chavez presidency as you are comoido now in your condo! Los +mendigos de los missiones? Obviously no tienes cajones a a[potyar su propio gente menos que el Country Club..Que verquenza. Doesnt matter if you were born in Venezuela, you are outt of touch with the reality! Socialismo de Sambil!!! Socialismo de San Ignacio...que arrogancia !! |
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“The Truth” Joined: Apr 3, 2008 Comments: 427 |
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http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3621 |
Wow. He says he wants to know more, states his opinion, and asks some questions, and for that you insult him and spew a bunch of noise you’ve probably only read about. Have YOU ever even been to Venezuela? I’m not going to defend Chavez, but neither am I going to defend the corrupt leaders that came before him (that the U.S. liked). The country is still a democracy, and Chavez was elected by the people. If they want a more socialist or even communist government, it’s their choice. You don't like it and want to insult others rather than have a useful dialog, then have fun, but I doubt your going to convince anyone that does not already hold your views. |
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Socialism can work, but like any economic system it depends greatly on the political system under which it functions. Socialism in Cuba functions under an authoritarian government; even capitalism often fails under authoritarian governments. Venezuela is a democracy and the people have chosen their current socialistic path. If it they cannot make it work, then the can elect to change directions again, it’s their choice. The danger is in other countries (specifically the U.S.), and wealthy interests interfering with Venezuelans progress because of its immense oil wealth. You must understand, many do not want Venezuelan socialism to work because of the precedence it will set in the region. |
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lol I hope this is a VERY bad joke because Venezuela is a terrible place to live! The government is corrupt and the country is full of poverty and slums! Crime is a common thing in Venezuela and if I were you, I'd make a better choice. The prices on electronics are also OUTRAGEOUS!
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The men there are terrible, too! And the women are smuts! Hugo is a very bad man.
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Hi Keith,
I am a an American in Venezuela, and let me tell you, Poor people love him (and I mean REALLY poor), and people that make over $3000 per year HATE HIM (unless they are making money through the Strong-Arm Chavez Gov't). The best way to describe Venezuela is a crying shame! So much oil money, and where does it go? I see LOTS of guns every day, but they are illegal for a citizen to carry on the street. Robbery, assault and murder haapen everywhere and every day. Houses are double triple and quadruple locked, especially when the people are home due to crime. The infrastructure of the country has had NO MAINTENANCE for decases, the roads, electric, sewer, and water systems are ALL in disrepair. You can listen to Chavez, but remember, when his lips are moving, he's lying! He is a man of positive words, and negative actions. The man talks and talks and talks every day, but doesn't listen. Why are the immature governments of the Americas so into power and control? I suppose because they just haven't learned as well as Europe over the past few hundred years that war is foolish. Deal with what you've got, and make friends with your international neighbors. The world is finite, so these arrogant leaders need to be either learn to work with what they've got or let someone else have at it. The main difference between Chavez and the avaerage American citizen is that he is live on TV everyday telling people he can't wait for Bush to be out of office, and we Americans are only wishing it. Remember most Americans are good people, Bush just isn't one of them!(ps. it would be really great if you would visit Venezuela, I'd love to show you around--you'd be in shock!) |
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Good night, please consider this. First for forsee the future we have to look back at the history. Europeans did BY force enter North America..today the US. Look at your history..only fighting..with the local indians..later you US did have so MANY civil wars..to end where you are. So give other countries the space..to fight for their rights..It is incredible how the US (not all think) they are a supirior rase. That the world has to bow for YOU. Venezuela..was ruled and bought by rich countries like yours (US)now. Like he US politcs use your TAX money to party BOM all over the world. Man I can write a book..so please everybody should start cleaning ther own GARDEN. Also me..goodnight.
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TRUE, the past is a good book to read. And ALSO true MANY bad things have occurred IN the US and BY the US in the past and present... the US is no Angel! Chavez IS making changes, strengthening the OIL industry, B U T ! WHY is the money being used for ANYTHING other than infrastructure! We can ALL CRY about the crimes of the past, but TODAY'S CRIME is what CHAVEZ AND BUSH are doing to their countries PEOPLE. They play like little boys throwing dirt in each others faces, while the people of their respective countries sit idly (watching sit-coms in the US, and listening to Chavez propaganda while the bolivar continues to devalue (1996 $1-540, now $1=4900 in Venezuela). Chavez doesn't have to LIKE the US, but it would serve his people's best-interest if he would act PROFESSIONALLY and DIPLOMATICALLY. As for the US thinking it's a superior race, I'd disagree, it's a social experiment that isn't working the greatest. There are White-Black, Black-Hispanic, Black-Asian, Asian-Asian, White-Asian, White-Hispanic issues throughout the country. As for me, I like everyone, until they show their colors, and mistreat me or others, and THAT is what I see here. Chavez is a militaristic thug, robbing his people WHILE developing and exploiting the OIL industry. Like I've said before, a person really needs to BE HERE to see what's going on, because IF YOU'RE POOR, it looks GREAT, but IF YOU HAVE A NET WORTH OF >$1000, you're either ANTI-Chavista or on the take!
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I read your comments good and bad with interest as I worked and lived there before Chavez and have visited on numerous occassions since next year ~I will be moving back there from Spain with my family and the reason , I see great oppertunity where otheres see despair , the goivernment is Spain has watched the entire country go down the pan and the people here voted freely and democratically for a fool to run there country , my mother in law is making 20 K dollars a month in venezuela and my income gone from 300 K euros a year to 50 K in a country where it costs 80 K to live with a family in any comfort . Yes it will be dangerous maybe more than here but hell I dont call most USA cities safe either , 5 had great contracts with previous government and will see what can be done now but not with the government , people who are smart are making good money and living well in venezuela , and as for your credit crunch well enjoy in a country where the currency is supported by the government and the banks owned by them too , oops ! does that sound familiar MR Bush we will buy up stock in our own banks because of the greed and stupid mistakes of the past ! IS buh and Brown in UK reading from the book that Chavez wrote . Lets see I not one way or the other just looking out for my kin , you know what I say.
Experience is the only cure for stupidity if education is lacking+ Go and walk a mile in those shoes and then make your call Every country has good and bad I came back from a vacation in London in June and within a month received fines for driving a hire car on vacation in London of nearlt 1000 Euros ? you cant drive on this bridge in that lane up that road between this time and that time ! and you dont even know about it until later when the fines and doubled ? Viva Freedom and Democracy ? And a camera in every street , and still they shoot inoscent Brazilians on the subway . If thats the way of democracy I'll take my chances down south where the cool winds blow to cool the warmth of the day where petroleum costs less than water and the women have liquid hips and smile all the time Viva la Revolution amd see you there after your credit crunch hits and your all out of a job ? |
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“Do Martians get along?” Joined: Sep 14, 2008 Comments: 549 Stuttgart, BW DE ISP: Caracas, Venezuela |
You will be dead, no shoes, no camera, no bags, if you get out of the cab, or take photos in these places. Good luck! |
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“The Truth” Joined: Apr 3, 2008 Comments: 427 |
Gator Marbella, Spain Reply »|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#98Yesterday I read your comments good and bad with interest as I worked and lived there before Chavez and have visited on numerous occassions since next year ~I will be moving back there from Spain with my family and the reason , I see great oppertunity where otheres see despair , the goivernment is Spain has watched the entire country go down the pan and the people here voted freely and democratically for a fool to run there country , my mother in law is making 20 K dollars a month in venezuela and my income gone from 300 K euros a year to 50 K in a country where it costs 80 K to live with a family in any comfort . Yes it will be dangerous maybe more than here but hell I dont call most USA cities safe either , 5 had great contracts with previous government and will see what can be done now but not with the government , people who are smart are making good money and living well in venezuela , and as for your credit crunch well enjoy in a country where the currency is supported by the government and the banks owned by them too , oops ! does that sound familiar MR Bush we will buy up stock in our own banks because of the greed and stupid mistakes of the past ! IS buh and Brown in UK reading from the book that Chavez wrote . Lets see I not one way or the other just looking out for my kin , you know what I say. Experience is the only cure for stupidity if education is lacking+ Go and walk a mile in those shoes and then make your call Every country has good and bad I came back from a vacation in London in June and within a month received fines for driving a hire car on vacation in London of nearlt 1000 Euros ? you cant drive on this bridge in that lane up that road between this time and that time ! and you dont even know about it until later when the fines and doubled ? Viva Freedom and Democracy ? And a camera in every street , and still they shoot inoscent Brazilians on the subway . If thats the way of democracy I'll take my chances down south where the cool winds blow to cool the warmth of the day where petroleum costs less than water and the women have liquid hips and smile all the time Viva la Revolution amd see you there after your credit crunch hits and your all out of a job ? |
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