Venezuela poised to nationalize fuel distribution

Hurrah! Rich people have too much money! Working people need more services. Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. George Bush and John McCain own multiple houses, cars and are millionaires. While working people die from lack of health insurance! While veterans die in Iraq and are homeless once we are back home. Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

A soverign nation can conduct its affairs as it sees fit.

Hopefully whoever the next President is will provide better diplomacy than the cowboy crap America has wallowed in the last 8 years.

cybergrace wrote:

Rich people have too much money! Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. working people die from lack of health insurance! Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

Agree with much of what you say.

Dictators tho, don't live like normal people, specially when they battle throw-overs, give weapons to neigboring countries, & make deals with Russia for more weapons.

Yeah, taking from the rich oil companies & giving to poor people sounds good(100 people got new homes). But so much blood gets spilled some time. If you think working people die without health insurance, wait for the revolution & really see people die.

Those weapons cost a lot more than 100 people's homes.

Besides, my 50 MPG car is treating $4 per gallon gasoline like...$1.60 per gallon gasoline.

Instead of a revolution...get a 20 year old car that gets 50MPG. You'll be happier...those around you will be happier.

cybergrace wrote:

Hurrah! Rich people have too much money! Working people need more services. Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. George Bush and John McCain own multiple houses, cars and are millionaires. While working people die from lack of health insurance! While veterans die in Iraq and are homeless once we are back home. Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

What else should governments nationalize? Food, Playstations. Should there be a limit on how much you can make. More anti-American crap. You ever thought about moving to Venezuela?

strut2k wrote:

A soverign nation can conduct its affairs as it sees fit.
Hopefully whoever the next President is will provide better diplomacy than the cowboy crap America has wallowed in the last 8 years.

Yes they can. And what did Bush do to Chavez anyway?

MSO4 wrote:

<quoted text>Yes they can. And what did Bush do to Chavez anyway?

God only knows. Waterboarding? Not out of the question.

Ask Chavez. He was the one fanning sulphur fumes from where Bush stood at the UN.

Chavez is not being too friendly to the Bushman's big oil donors, eh?

cybergrace wrote:

Hurrah! Rich people have too much money! Working people need more services. Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. George Bush and John McCain own multiple houses, cars and are millionaires. While working people die from lack of health insurance! While veterans die in Iraq and are homeless once we are back home. Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

Why should Exxon get to profit from their own business? Hmmm. I don't know.

Obama lives like a normal person? Ha Ha Ha!

And um, lack of insurance has never once killed a human being. Ever.

Strut2k wrote:

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God only knows. Waterboarding? Not out of the question.
Ask Chavez. He was the one fanning sulphur fumes from where Bush stood at the UN.
Chavez is not being too friendly to the Bushman's big oil donors, eh?

So are you trying to say that because Chavez hates Bushy, Chavez is a good guy? You seem to appreciate the fact that Hugo is "not being too friendly to the Bushman's big oil donors"

strut2k wrote:

A soverign nation can conduct its affairs as it sees fit.
Hopefully whoever the next President is will provide better diplomacy than the cowboy crap America has wallowed in the last 8 years.

That's right. And BTW, everything there in Anglian Amèrica is extremely ridiculous, not just the classic cowfags.

El Guachin wrote:

<quoted text>That's right. And BTW, everything there in Anglian Amèrica is extremely ridiculous, not just the classic cowfags.

Stop being so bitter. Are you still upset because the United Kingdom whipped Argentina's ass?

cybergrace wrote:

Hurrah! Rich people have too much money! Working people need more services. Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. George Bush and John McCain own multiple houses, cars and are millionaires. While working people die from lack of health insurance! While veterans die in Iraq and are homeless once we are back home. Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

What an idiot you are...

Bash the President and VP then say the government should take over the oil industry in America?

Name one govt project that does NOT operate at a loss, Einstein.

BrainSmashR wrote:

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What an idiot you are...
Bash the President and VP then say the government should take over the oil industry in America?
Name one govt project that does NOT operate at a loss, Einstein.

Well, you know, there are millions of people against war but are for raising taxes at the same time.

What moron thinks they can control an empowered government these days? It's like history has become irrelevant and reality exists in 4 year segments.

BrainSmashR wrote:

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What an idiot you are...
Bash the President and VP then say the government should take over the oil industry in America?
Name one govt project that does NOT operate at a loss, Einstein.

Nationalizing any enterprise that is essential for the basic functioning of America is the only way to prevent destabilization of our economy by the oil industry and other utility companies. Providing natural resources or utilities generated from natural resources is best nationalized.
Regarding the efficiency of government, a $4 a gallon and $140 plus a barrel of oil is far from efficient for the consumer. The government could use the windfall profits to pay down our national debt. Will the oil industry buy off our debts and keep us working and in housing? Nationalizing it will provide oversight and possible help to Americans with a stronger infrastructure.

Mythos wrote:

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Why should Exxon get to profit from their own business? Hmmm. I don't know.
Obama lives like a normal person? Ha Ha Ha!
And um, lack of insurance has never once killed a human being. Ever.

Lack of insurance never killed a human being? Boy are you misinformed.

fltom wrote:

<quoted text>Lack of insurance never killed a human being? Boy are you misinformed.

Could you please refer me to a death certificate that shows lack of insurance as the official cause of death?

Jim C wrote:

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Nationalizing any enterprise that is essential for the basic functioning of America is the only way to prevent destabilization of our economy by the oil industry and other utility companies. Providing natural resources or utilities generated from natural resources is best nationalized.
Regarding the efficiency of government, a $4 a gallon and $140 plus a barrel of oil is far from efficient for the consumer. The government could use the windfall profits to pay down our national debt. Will the oil industry buy off our debts and keep us working and in housing? Nationalizing it will provide oversight and possible help to Americans with a stronger infrastructure.

Scary. And what do all those with 401k's in Exxon and Shell get once the government takes their property?

Jim C wrote:

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Nationalizing any enterprise that is essential for the basic functioning of America is the only way to prevent destabilization of our economy by the oil industry and other utility companies. Providing natural resources or utilities generated from natural resources is best nationalized.
Regarding the efficiency of government, a $4 a gallon and $140 plus a barrel of oil is far from efficient for the consumer. The government could use the windfall profits to pay down our national debt. Will the oil industry buy off our debts and keep us working and in housing? Nationalizing it will provide oversight and possible help to Americans with a stronger infrastructure.

LOL

Exactly how many people do you think are going to lose their jobs when Chavez buys out these companies or simply expropriates (that's stealing AND quoted from the story) their property and assets?

"Under a bill likely to win initial approval Wednesday, fuel distributors including subsidiaries of British Petroleum, Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp., would have 60 days to negotiate the sale of their businesses to the government or face expropriation."

In other words, if they don't like the deal Chavez offers....tough shit, he's just going to steal their property.

Is that REALLY the kind of America you want?

cybergrace wrote:

Hurrah! Rich people have too much money! Working people need more services. Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. George Bush and John McCain own multiple houses, cars and are millionaires. While working people die from lack of health insurance! While veterans die in Iraq and are homeless once we are back home. Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

Give me a break. I am originally from Venezuela and living outside right now (thank God). You say more money for the working class?? Do your research well. The working class in Venezuela do not have milk for their children (did you know that?) Did you know that the working class earns about $300 a month if lucky although they are professionals in a country were they should be bathing in money with the gas prices? Did you know that the corruption is so high that the "president" who came from a poor family has now a mansion for him and a mansion for every one of his close family members and the rest of the country is living in poverty? You tell me. Let me tell you.. a salary as a public servant is not that high in Venezuela... you tell me how he got the money for a mansion there. So much for fairness and money for the working class.

Mythos wrote:

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Could you please refer me to a death certificate that shows lack of insurance as the official cause of death?

No, They stay home and die because they cant afford the care and they dont have insurance. So although we havent yet put it on the Death Cert. That makes your point?

cybergrace wrote:

Hurrah! Rich people have too much money! Working people need more services. Oil profits should benefit the people who are doing the drilling, working at the gas stations, driving the fuel trucks. This is exactly what we need in America. George Bush and John McCain own multiple houses, cars and are millionaires. While working people die from lack of health insurance! While veterans die in Iraq and are homeless once we are back home. Chavez lives like a normal person, like Obama. Why should Exxon be able to sell gas for $4/gallon and make millions of profits every year? These profits are going overwhelmingly to executives and politicians. The US should nationalize Exxon, cap gas back at $2/gallon and put white collar criminals in jail (and take their ill-gotten profits and give them to vets who were disabled fighting for their dirty money).

Obama and Chavez live like "normal" people?! What the f*ck is that?! Obama just bought a 4 million home! He went to a luxury hotel in Hawaii and spend thousands of dollars for him and his family while there! Chavez lives in the presidential palace in Caracas! Boy, I can’t remember the last time I lived in one or visited Hawaii..hmmm, I have been to Disney like 5 years ago and went into debt paying it off! No Obama and Chavez are not like normal people! You are a dope and gullible tweeb!