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Dary

Brooklyn, NY

PORSO wrote:

Yes, this is true. However, we will be together again. Each Tajik will be proudly saying "I am Tajik of a PERSIAN dynasty!"

Dont try to become a part of a persian dynasty. You are not welcomed there. Because you are not persian. You are a tajik. And don't try to sneak into our society.

from Sam

Uzbekistan

you are right Mordechay !

irani

Tehran, Iran

Dary wrote:

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Dont try to become a part of a persian dynasty. You are not welcomed there. Because you are not persian. You are a tajik. And don't try to sneak into our society.

what a nonsense, off course they are persian. how can you assume the persian speaking people not to be persian! even the uzbeks that speak non-iranian language assumed to be culturally iranian.
see the "Greater Iran" at wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Iran

Richard Nelson Frye:
"Many times I have emphasized that the present peoples of Central Asia, whether Iranian or Turkic speaking, have one culture, one religion, one set of social values and traditions with only language separating them."

from Sam

Uzbekistan

Uzbeks belongs to Turkick`s
not a Iran.
"In Persian, Greater Iran is called Iranzamin (ای&#1 585;ان زم&#17 40;ن) which means "The Land of Iran". Iranzamin was in the mythical times opposed to the Turanzamin the Land of Turan, which was located in the upper part of Central Asia.[11]"
i find it from your link irani

irani

Cary, NC

from Sam wrote:

Uzbeks belongs to Turkick`s
not a Iran.
"In Persian, Greater Iran is called Iranzamin (ای&#1 585;ان زم&#17 40;ن) which means "The Land of Iran". Iranzamin was in the mythical times opposed to the Turanzamin the Land of Turan, which was located in the upper part of Central Asia.[11]"
i find it from your link irani

Dont get it. but as i write earlier 'Richard Nelson Frye' believed that all central asians whether Iranian speaking or Turkic speaking have one culture, one religion, one set of social values and traditions and off course the same as other people within the 'Greater Iran'. being iranian in not the matter of language but the matter of culture.azeris for example.they speak a Turkic language, neither there is doubt of their iranian identity
nor can they tolerate that

Nik

Ottawa, Canada

Well as long as I know all Tajiks speak same language which is Tajiky-Farsi(Persian) and they all understand each other very well. Therefore your first analogy is about Tajiks is totally wrong. Also, Tajiks for thousand years are native of (Uzbekistan) Khorasan and They were majorities in Central Asia and but the Uzbekistan government/Uzbeks are denying Tajiks identity in Uzbekistan and force them no to speak Tajiky-Farsi in their cities and towns. Shame on Uzbeks with these racist attitude!

Jurabek wrote:

Bektosh respect!!!
Educated and informed person.
First point: Tajiks in Samarkand and Buhara speak different tajik language than those in Tajikistan. They don't understand each other completely.
Second point: Tajiks in Uzbekistan don't hide their tajik identity, even if they tried to, it is still so obvious, they have strong accent. Also, tajiks are all over the Uzbekistan, I mean Uzbek-tajiks. There is a city Termez in Surhandarya region, lot of tajiks there, and one huge region in Kashkadarya called Dehkanabad i believe.
And people please don't say bad rumors about Uzbekistan unless you are 100% sure. You might read from some sources but it is not necessarily true that it is a fact. There are tons of bastards ,like some people here, who don't like Uzbekistan for some stupid reasons.
Once again, respect Bektosh, it feels great to know people like you. I love and missing Uzbekistan.

from Sam

Uzbekistan

lets be really, tajiks are not a central asia`s nationality.look this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomyris
AND NEVER SAY THAT SAMARKAND OR BUKHARA BELONGS TO TAJIKS. THEY ARE TURKIC CITIES IN WHICH WAS BORN GREAT TURKIC SCEINTESTS LIKE A BERUNIY,FARABIY,ULUGBEK ...,NEVERTHELESS THEY HAVE USED ARABIC LANGUAGE.

from Sam

Uzbekistan

adeel wrote:

http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/b ashiri/Masov/appendix/deceive. html

these developments have been in 1926 in soviet times.
now we talk about UZBEKISTAN.

Aarmeen

Redondo Beach, CA

all of Southern Uzbekistan belongs to us Tajiks. After Karimov's death we will create our Soghdiana and in the future we will join Khorasan, once it is freed from Afghanistan.

from Sam

Tashkent, Uzbekistan

Aarmeen wrote:

all of Southern Uzbekistan belongs to us Tajiks. After Karimov's death we will create our Soghdiana and in the future we will join Khorasan, once it is freed from Afghanistan.

ha ha ha .hey bro, sogdiana used to be a turkic country.
in surkhandaryo there are few tadjiks than samarkand or bukhara.
if surxon people heard about this in really life they will give u to know about us.
for the second thing many uzbeks located in north afghanistan.
and Khorasan was a turkic city that people lived like a Alisher Navoi .
by the way u want to create a new country sort of now tadjikistan, that is the worst country in the central asia.nevertheless its worst there only 3 - 5 million people.nowadays in uzbekistan lives 28 million people.so nevertheless u want to create new country u cant do it.

Aarmeen

Redondo Beach, CA

Sam you are pathetic. You are a little Pan Turkist fascist distorting history. Soghd was only populated by Indo-Iranian Soghdians the ancestors of Tajiks. Uzbek is a fake identity created in the late 19th century and has no historical significance. Most Uzbeks in Uzbekistan are in fact Turkized Tajiks. Northern Afghanistan is populated by Tajiks and they were the only group who resisted against the Taliban, the tiny minority of uzbeks fled to turkey until 2001. Ali Sher Navai lived in a Tajik area named Herat today where not even 1% is Uzbek or Turkic and 80% of Herat are Tajiks today. Uzbekistan today is controlled and governed by Samarqandi Tajiks and if it wasn't for their wealth and power Uzbekistan would been worst than Tajikistan. Uzbeks are mongolians who have no history before the Mongolian invasion and everything belongs to Tajiks only.

irani

Bordeaux, France

salam to all friends. i just want to say : be reasonable. saadi says:

دل&#15 75;یل قو&#17 40; با&#17 40;د و مع&#16 06;وی

نه رگ&#16 07;ای گر&#15 83;ن به حج&#15 78; قو&#17 40;

for those cant read:

dalayel ghavi bayad o ma'navy
na raghaye gardan be hojjat ghavi

for those can't understand:

it is the reasonableness of arguments that must be strong
not the Neck vein for anger and Certainty

MOSLEM

Jakarta, Indonesia

All moslems are brother/sister, no one is better than another except his/her behaviour....we are created by ALLAH to be many nations to know and understand each other..

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