Shackle and Hoist': Kosher Slaughter Comes Under Scrutiny Again

There has been extensive research on injuries to cattle while shackled and hoisted. Refer to the studies of the American scientist, Dr. Temple Grandin on her web site. The animal's massive weight while it hangs by a shackled hindleg causes tearing of tendons, ligaments and muscles. This violates the Jewish law that a torn animal cannot be slaughtered; therefore, all cattle slaughtered this way are not Kosher.

Now you're an expert on Kosher slaughtering. Take your PETA brain, and try a diiferent forum. We are tired of your harping on Kosher slaughter!

At one time, "palestinians" used a donkey as an explosive delivery device.
PETA was upset with the arabs, not because the intended victims of the massive explosion were jewish women and children, but because the donkey would be harmed in the explosion.
The warped mind of a "liberal"

Idiots for Palestine wrote:

At one time, "palestinians" used a donkey as an explosive delivery device.
PETA was upset with the arabs, not because the intended victims of the massive explosion were jewish women and children, but because the donkey would be harmed in the explosion.
The warped mind of a "liberal"

Yoare quite right about this! PETA does seem to care more for animal life than human life but all in all this world would be a better world if we would all stop eating meat.

All this is is a little tit for tat!
Human life is not to be equated with animal life.
PETA is somewhat (or should we say VERY) confused on this point.
If you have to eat meat do eat Kosher meat!
At least you can be (somewhat) sure that it is clean!
Kosher slaughtering methods do need reform and again the world would be cleaner and healther in both body and mind if we would all just go vegan!

Judaism implicit;y prefers a vegetatian diet over the omnivorous nature most of us display today. It is also hard to give up meat when you have been raised on it.

The best idea is to raise your children as Jewish vegetarians!

Jeffrey Levine wrote:

Judaism implicit;y prefers a vegetatian diet over the omnivorous nature most of us display today. It is also hard to give up meat when you have been raised on it.
The best idea is to raise your children as Jewish vegetarians!

In my case it was my daughter who introduced me to vegetarianism!
After much resistance I finally I accepted the fact that she was a vegetarian and that wasn't going to change (she was 12 at the time).
Then, after time my daughter started leaving literature for me to read.

Yes, some of it was PETA stuff. They are a little crazy but, not totally insane!

Now I don't even think of eating meat.
I have found that when I stopped eating meat I became a kinder and more loving human being.
I also became healthier and stronger.
Even some medical conditions that I had at the time just disappeared.
I think if we want peace in this world we have to start small, in our homes, with what we serve at out tables.
When we discount the suffering of any creature we degrade ourselves.
After all you are what you eat!

Bobs Girl wrote:

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In my case it was my daughter who introduced me to vegetarianism!
After much resistance I finally I accepted the fact that she was a vegetarian and that wasn't going to change (she was 12 at the time).
Then, after time my daughter started leaving literature for me to read.
Yes, some of it was PETA stuff. They are a little crazy but, not totally insane!
Now I don't even think of eating meat.
I have found that when I stopped eating meat I became a kinder and more loving human being.
I also became healthier and stronger.
Even some medical conditions that I had at the time just disappeared.
I think if we want peace in this world we have to start small, in our homes, with what we serve at out tables.
When we discount the suffering of any creature we degrade ourselves.
After all you are what you eat!

For whatever it's worth, you have my respect. I've tried numerous times to become a vegetarian (or, at the very least, stop eating meat but not fish)...hasn't worked for me (yet).

Mark Rogers wrote:

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For whatever it's worth, you have my respect. I've tried numerous times to become a vegetarian (or, at the very least, stop eating meat but not fish)...hasn't worked for me (yet).

Its OK! Take one step at a time and move forward not backwards.
Have a wonderful Purim!

Shabbat Shalom

Don't make us make threats on Good Friday, the day Jesus died, which is a hard day for a lot of us here in the States.

I guess this means Israel attacks Palestine with every atom bomb they got. Or would Israel rather kill the Arabs one at a time?

I think you should just "get 'er done" with the atom bombs.

But maybe you guys just want to kill then a few at a time.

At least the Nazis had the class to kill you guys, en masse, as fast as they could.

I think it cruel of you Jews to stretch the battle out. Light 'em up with nukes, get it over with. If you torture them too long, you might lose your love in America and then it will be America's 6000 nukes against your pathetic 200.

If you torture those Arabs too much, we are going to hurt you, really, really, bad.

We'll do Jerusalem, and recall Jesus on Golgotha.

We got hydrogen cyanide here in the States. Want to go to the showers? A little Zyklon B, anyone?

Nuke them, get it over with, so we don't have to come after you. We got the "cred," we can kill Jews just like Himmler. Actually, Dick Cheney is a Heinrich Himmler clone. There are old-time conservatives that want Jews dead, all of them. We'll make you a deal--you finish the job with nukes in Palestine--and we let you keep breathing, and we do not turn out the Republican dogs on you. Otherwise, it is Treblinka time. You got some tough goy on your butts.

Barksdale wrote:

Don't make us make threats on Good Friday, the day Jesus died, which is a hard day for a lot of us here in the States.
I guess this means Israel attacks Palestine with every atom bomb they got. Or would Israel rather kill the Arabs one at a time?
I think you should just "get 'er done" with the atom bombs.
But maybe you guys just want to kill then a few at a time.

At least the Nazis had the class to kill you guys, en masse, as fast as they could.
I think it cruel of you Jews to stretch the battle out. Light 'em up with nukes, get it over with. If you torture them too long, you might lose your love in America and then it will be America's 6000 nukes against your pathetic 200.
If you torture those Arabs too much, we are going to hurt you, really, really, bad.
We'll do Jerusalem, and recall Jesus on Golgotha.
We got hydrogen cyanide here in the States. Want to go to the showers? A little Zyklon B, anyone?
Nuke them, get it over with, so we don't have to come after you. We got the "cred," we can kill Jews just like Himmler. Actually, Dick Cheney is a Heinrich Himmler clone. There are old-time conservatives that want Jews dead, all of them. We'll make you a deal--you finish the job with nukes in Palestine--and we let you keep breathing, and we do not turn out the Republican dogs on you. Otherwise, it is Treblinka time. You got some tough goy on your butts.

Wrong room banana brain!!!!

Jeffrey Levine wrote:

Judaism implicit;y prefers a vegetatian diet over the omnivorous nature most of us display today. It is also hard to give up meat when you have been raised on it.
The best idea is to raise your children as Jewish vegetarians!

Are you joking? Please!

Bobs Girl wrote:

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In my case it was my daughter who introduced me to vegetarianism!
After much resistance I finally I accepted the fact that she was a vegetarian and that wasn't going to change (she was 12 at the time).
Then, after time my daughter started leaving literature for me to read.
Yes, some of it was PETA stuff. They are a little crazy but, not totally insane!
Now I don't even think of eating meat.
I have found that when I stopped eating meat I became a kinder and more loving human being.
I also became healthier and stronger.
Even some medical conditions that I had at the time just disappeared.
I think if we want peace in this world we have to start small, in our homes, with what we serve at out tables.
When we discount the suffering of any creature we degrade ourselves.
After all you are what you eat!

In the Chinese culture not eating meat makes you more Yin,(weak) eating meat, makes you Yang (stronger). To not have a balance as you say, you became more kind and nicer. You need to eat everything. That kind of Yin and Yang way of eating will show it's long term affects years later.

The Wolf Den wrote:

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Are you joking? Please!

No, Actually he is telling the truth!! Read your BIBLE!!!

The Wolf Den wrote:

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In the Chinese culture not eating meat makes you more Yin,(weak) eating meat, makes you Yang (stronger). To not have a balance as you say, you became more kind and nicer. You need to eat everything. That kind of Yin and Yang way of eating will show it's long term affects years later.

Actually, it has made me stronger physically, mentally, and disease free.
We do not need to have flesh of dead animals in our diets! PERIOD!!