Led Zeppelin - New Frontman for Led Zeppelin?

Marcus wrote:

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Im "cautiously optimistic", in america when you hear that its usually coming from the mouth of some politician, and it means, "I dont really have any idea whats going to happen, but if it sucks dont blame it one me". LOL Just kind of hanging on as the first wave of denials filter through. There has been a definate pattern all year. It starts with plant who flips everyone off in the first couple of days. Then the peripheral characters start chimimg in with thier statements, and then finally someone pins page to the matt on it and he says something like: what rumor? of course its not true. well the pattern is holding so far, with jack white issung a public statement that its all bunk.in a week or so we'll probably get something page, or even jones, saying the same thing. and then i guess it will finally be over. not in very "wishfull" mood today i guess. i am as frustrated and puzzled as anyone else about this whole year. im beggining to be sure it will go down as one of the biggest most colosally fucked up wasted chances in the history of history, and i hope robert plants cock falls off.

Time to ditch the rent collector disguise and bring on the real me!

You know what Marcus, it all sounds like a soap and I certainly have not been following it, and wont be following it. All I can say, and agree with your there, is that if and when a new Zeppelin album comes out (and recorded decently without any of that modern day compression crap) then I will be a happy camper.

BRING ON THE MIGHTY ZEP !!

HealingTime wrote:

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Time to ditch the rent collector disguise and bring on the real me!
You know what Marcus, it all sounds like a soap and I certainly have not been following it, and wont be following it. All I can say, and agree with your there, is that if and when a new Zeppelin album comes out (and recorded decently without any of that modern day compression crap) then I will be a happy camper.
BRING ON THE MIGHTY ZEP !!

LOL {{{{CLAPS LIKE A SEAL}}}}Nice disguise but why the ruse? Yeah I hate digital compression. Just break out the old fenders, or the supro
something with tube rectifier and and mic it.REALLY mic it.

Nah ... I've been away for a few months but just been poppin' in and out when something has really pissed me off. This topix business can be v time consumming to do right and then you're read by a bunch of jerks and trogs who don't understand the first fuck about anything and then you need to be a dad and a teacher all rolled into one. I don't mind helping out but I can't be crusading like the Caped Crusader all my life. Anyway, f.a.t!

Tooooooobs. Right on!!!! Any guys that understands the power of tube amps and the evils of compression gets a fat kiss (spit!!!!) from me. Well done. Yeah ... and make the first release on vinyl while you're at it oh Mighty Zeps! Didn't the Floyd live recording Pulse get done on an all-tube rig and that was as smooth and smoochy as they come.

You bring a smile to my face this morning. Thanks.

BRING ON THE MIGHTY ZEP IN FULL RANGE NON COMPRESSED AUDIO MASTERED WITH ALL_TUBE GEAR AND SOUNDING WILD AND FREE FOR THE TRUE FANS OUT THERE .... BRING ON THE MIGHTY ZEPPELIN !!!!

Alright Marcus, I haven't commented on the other threads yet, but I did read them and that was just the comic relief I needed today.

I really appreciate another zep fan with as much insight and humor as you have. Speaking of which, I do miss our trio and our good friend jimmyb... I think he got turned off by all the damn plant groupies and no tour...

We all did.

Okay, I don't know who it was that said David Coverdale (barf, puke, vomit) is a good choice to replace Plant; I just read his post here the other day; but anyway, I've got a joke for you.

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Did you know that "pockmarked scarface" songwriter Bryan Adams decided to change his name before he became famous...

Yeah, his real birth name is David Coverdale... ha ha ha.
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No offense to Brian Adams who I'm sure is a totally cool person and I mean that having heard him speak and read some of his interview as is his music for movie sound tracks if you like that sort of thing...

And David Coverdale who I think kicked ass on vocal on songs like "Still of the Night" and some other early work; but he just doesn't cut it as a Plant copy cat or anybody else for that matter.

Page figured that out the hard way and so all you Coverdale wing dings can go see a copy cat band like Zepagain or something else.

It's not about appearances even if you've got acne... it's about writing music from the heart and soul and just plain good old rocknroll.

You can't replace Plant, but you sure as hell can find another singer.

BRING ON THE MIGHTY ZEP!!!

Mr Page wrote:

Alright Marcus, I haven't commented on the other threads yet, but I did read them and that was just the comic relief I needed today.
I really appreciate another zep fan with as much insight and humor as you have. Speaking of which, I do miss our trio and our good friend jimmyb... I think he got turned off by all the damn plant groupies and no tour...
We all did.
Okay, I don't know who it was that said David Coverdale (barf, puke, vomit) is a good choice to replace Plant; I just read his post here the other day; but anyway, I've got a joke for you.
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Did you know that "pockmarked scarface" songwriter Bryan Adams decided to change his name before he became famous...
Yeah, his real birth name is David Coverdale... ha ha ha.
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No offense to Brian Adams who I'm sure is a totally cool person and I mean that having heard him speak and read some of his interview as is his music for movie sound tracks if you like that sort of thing...
And David Coverdale who I think kicked ass on vocal on songs like "Still of the Night" and some other early work; but he just doesn't cut it as a Plant copy cat or anybody else for that matter.
Page figured that out the hard way and so all you Coverdale wing dings can go see a copy cat band like Zepagain or something else.
It's not about appearances even if you've got acne... it's about writing music from the heart and soul and just plain good old rocknroll.
You can't replace Plant, but you sure as hell can find another singer.
BRING ON THE MIGHTY ZEP!!!

oh hell i wish jimmy b would come back then cause we done skeered off the plant groupies!and damn im afraid that they will soon announce that nothing will happen. i would hate that. weve been coming here for a year. our freinds from over the atlantic have just started dropping in. it would be a bummer to have to give it up. but who knows what tommorow will bring. and its whispered that soon..........

Oh yeah i forot to mention that I am HEARTILY against any coverdale association. His last work worth a damn as far as im concerned was DEEP PURPLE! and that was a long fucking time ago. what can i say. the 80's sucked, i was there. zebra Spandex, giant perms, kramer guitars and shitty, overproduced overcompressed songs that all sounded the same. it was like the corporate copy cat country music ethic took over rock. and cover dale was in jsut about every 80's LA homo glam band that there was. no, not dave coverdale please

Marcus wrote:

Oh yeah i forot to mention that I am HEARTILY against any coverdale association. His last work worth a damn as far as im concerned was DEEP PURPLE! and that was a long fucking time ago. what can i say. the 80's sucked, i was there. zebra Spandex, giant perms, kramer guitars and shitty, overproduced overcompressed songs that all sounded the same. it was like the corporate copy cat country music ethic took over rock. and cover dale was in jsut about every 80's LA homo glam band that there was. no, not dave coverdale please

OMG I bought a used Kramer from guitar center back in those days just cause I wanted to play on a guitar with a floyd rose bridge. I was fascinated by all the bling the first time I heard a friend of mine show off some metal screams and dive bombs with his Ibanez and I just had to have one.

Whoever had the Kramer before me had painted the damn thing florescent yellow from a can. The ugliest gpick I ever owned. I learned a couple licks on it and sold it 6 months later to the pawn shop for 20c on the dollar so I could go out and party. I can't stand that kind of guitar playing anymore.

It's a good thing too because I ain't any good at it... all that alternate picking and triads and sweeps just ain't for me. Good old hammer ons and pulloffs and lots of vibrato and box blues style for me.

Yeah, the 80s were really god awful... when I look back at Bon Jovi whom I think are good descent people I'm sure, but to think that I really considered some of that junk really good music... well, I don't know... everything has it's place in time and at the time I guess for whatever reason it filled the gap when nothing else was around.

And then came SRV with Texas Flood and everything changed for me and I guess I just fell in love with that kind of guitar and with the blues and that style of music. Which leaves me where I'm at unchanged today with a very strong predudice for the blues in both styles: the true blues that SRV played and hard rock n folk blues in Jimmy's style.

Of course, Hendrix was sort of a more complex combination of the two... hard rock and blues to the extreme form of heavy metal as it occured to him.
But I find that I can't live without either of those three... and even though I get lost from time to time I always find my way back home with one of them.

Then there is the Beatles which is entirely different for me... but just as important, but I had to leave them alone a couple years ago because of serious burn out... still, they are the most creative force I've ever known.

Now I feel so left out or maybe lost in time... I don't know which; because I even though I like some of the other old classic rock like floyd and what not, it's not that the music is dated at all... but that there's NOT ENOUGH OF IT to go around anymore... I need... I need...something new.

I do like stuff like Audio Slave that Cornell puts out; his music is very good, but that's so unusual and not the norm for what is going on out there right now. I can't stand (((ScReaMinG))) vocals and a low E string tuned down to the floor... it's been done tooooooo many times.

I'm sorry to all you numetal heads out there and today's music, but I just don't like most of it... so much so that I pretty much don't even listen to the radio any more cuz I can't stand the agry driven hell bent insane asylum & death wish genre. Kchunga chunga "Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!" Kchunga chunga.

We need to open a thread up here for people to bring up new music that's worth listening to so I don't go insane listening to the same old sht; but I'm afraid we wouldn't get very many posts. Oh well, enough rant tonight.

Yeah Stevie Was really starting to get some attention in the late 80's. Thats when the "80s'" ended for me. bout 86. around the time of texas flood, and REM released
"Lifes rich pageant" and The Greatful Dead starting getting a lot of mainstream and critical attention (which they certainly deserved by then).I had by then completely stopped listening to any of the punk stuff from my late teen years and i have never looked back in that direction.
There was a brief period,say 86 - 92 when i really got excited about what was happening in music again. then it went back to being a total corporate suck fest and has remained there, for me, ever since.

SRV was the stand out figure in the 80's. He was a guy that was in tune with the Hendix legacy and to hell with the crap that was being played all around. The booing he got from the jazz crowd at Montreaux was a microcosm of SRV and the rest of the rock music world. But in life, as in that concert, Stevie was so focussed on what he loved that he was completely unaware of the booing around him. That kind of complete focus on yourself and your art is what is missing from the the well oiled business n' money machine the music industry has evolved into since then. Art in whatever form cannot and will not be for the masses, which is where the money is.

HealingTime wrote:

SRV was the stand out figure in the 80's. He was a guy that was in tune with the Hendix legacy and to hell with the crap that was being played all around. The booing he got from the jazz crowd at Montreaux was a microcosm of SRV and the rest of the rock music world. But in life, as in that concert, Stevie was so focussed on what he loved that he was completely unaware of the booing around him. That kind of complete focus on yourself and your art is what is missing from the the well oiled business n' money machine the music industry has evolved into since then. Art in whatever form cannot and will not be for the masses, which is where the money is.

yeah that was a wine and cheese, jazz crowd that wanted to hear some julliard college graduate play charlie parker stuff on an L5 with a stand up bass player. stevie a REAL blues player in the Real blues tradition was too into the groove to really notice.Sometimes art can be for the masses, sometimes. There have been movements that show this. Of course "art" has different forms and different functions, different faces. There were genuine artists in popular american music, along side the junk, from the 20's right up until the 80's i believe. they really thinned out in the 70's and then "pop" art and "performance" art nonsense started gaining traction in the 60's. and then art became indistinguishable from the corporate swill.-angry old man rant over-

Led Zep died with John Bonham!. It can never happen again!.

Plant is Led Zepplin, as is Page, Jones, Bonham.
One can be replaced. But two is not Zepplin.
I am fortunate to have seen the original band.
Zepplin and Floyd. After them, it all went down hill.
It's over for Rock as we knew it.

Bonzo fan wrote:

Led Zep died with John Bonham!. It can never happen again!.

True. His son is close. At least keep the genetics.

Bonzo fan wrote:

Led Zep died with John Bonham!. It can never happen again!.

[[[[[yawns]]]]] Dont you people have any actual arguments? yes, john bonham is dead, you lost me after that.

Snobby wrote:

Plant is Led Zepplin, as is Page, Jones, Bonham.
One can be replaced. But two is not Zepplin.
I am fortunate to have seen the original band.
Zepplin and Floyd. After them, it all went down hill.
It's over for Rock as we knew it.

plant is an old woman. led zeppelin is the greatest rock band of all time. how could palnt be led zeppelin then?? zeppelin would be better without plant. he cant sing, he cant move, and he cant write! i think thats why hes dead against it. he KNOWS hes a washed up hack. he dosent want the world to see that he NEVER WAS THAT IMPORTANT. and his groupie fans dont either. sod off back to the robert plant love and worship center ...ooops i mean led zeppelin.com

Just a wee bit on the harsh side Mr Marcus, don't you think! Any form that a new Led Zep takes is going to make a positive contribution to the rock music scene, for that we need to be thankful. With or without Plant.

Snobby wrote:

Plant is Led Zepplin, as is Page, Jones, Bonham.
One can be replaced. But two is not Zepplin.
I am fortunate to have seen the original band.
Zepplin and Floyd. After them, it all went down hill.
It's over for Rock as we knew it.

So have I but still am happy to see any variation of PF or LZ that comes my way, knowing its bigger and better than anything else around. Ideally these old bands should steer away from trying to recreate the old times and stay true to progressive ideas and change to suit the times and the stages the players are within their own lives. By doing so they remain relevant and influential.

HealingTime wrote:

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So have I but still am happy to see any variation of PF or LZ that comes my way, knowing its bigger and better than anything else around. Ideally these old bands should steer away from trying to recreate the old times and stay true to progressive ideas and change to suit the times and the stages the players are within their own lives. By doing so they remain relevant and influential.

Thank you. what the hell is so hard about that? its what they used to do. page and jones have 30 years of experience and influences to lend to any led zeppelin project, as well as the benefit of maturity, to say nothing of hindsight. I do not believe they exausted Led Zeppelin musically by 1980.The 02 concert seemed to confirm that. Lets hear it gentlemen!

Healing time I agree that the project should be progressive, Led Zeppelin was nothing but,and thats a big reason why its music is still noticed to this very day. But if they try to use the perverted definition of "progressive" now being used by the music industry then the music they make will almost for sure be complete crap. The fantastic thing about the Super groups like the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Stones ect. is THEY went against the status quo of the day. These bands didnt conform to the music industry, THEY MADE THE INDUSTRY CONFORM TO THIER MUSIC(something the industry hated with a passion, at least until the money started rolling in). Im with marcus on this, the group should DO exactly what they did between 1968 - 1980. IMO one of the first basics they should do is record any new music in the production style they used then, not this over engineered method now used. the way it sounded was raw, powerful the music really came thru.

Hugh wrote:

Healing time I agree that the project should be progressive, Led Zeppelin was nothing but,and thats a big reason why its music is still noticed to this very day. But if they try to use the perverted definition of "progressive" now being used by the music industry then the music they make will almost for sure be complete crap. The fantastic thing about the Super groups like the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Stones ect. is THEY went against the status quo of the day. These bands didnt conform to the music industry, THEY MADE THE INDUSTRY CONFORM TO THIER MUSIC(something the industry hated with a passion, at least until the money started rolling in). Im with marcus on this, the group should DO exactly what they did between 1968 - 1980. IMO one of the first basics they should do is record any new music in the production style they used then, not this over engineered method now used. the way it sounded was raw, powerful the music really came thru.

I think that healings time means "progressive" in the sense we all probably agree that it should be used. More of a musical defintion than a shallow,pop culture one.