Racism in England

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AnnaLynn wrote:

Actually, you've always had racism. Saxons vs. Celts, Normans vs. Saxons, etc.

Mr Giblets wrote:

<quoted text> they all integrated. Moslems integrating? give us all a break.

AnnaLynn wrote:

Human nature--to be both fascinated by and scornful of "the outsider".

AnnaLynn wrote:

<quoted text>Ask me again next century. That's historically how long it takes with you.
I think the Normans were racist against the Saxons for about 500 years, in fact.

Kevin Dennis wrote:

Australian, Canadian, French, Italian, German, American, Greek, Austrian and other immigrants have never been discriminated against as these people are from civilized countries, but for Jesus sake who needs a Paki or Arab for a neighbor?

Mr Giblets wrote:

<quoted text>I think you have not the faintest idea what you are talking about. Normans v Saxons? Racism ?
King Harold Godwinson was a DANE. 1066 + 500 = 1566. By then we had a Welsh royal family. try other sources than Walt Disney and "Robin Hood and his Merry Men" for your history lessons.

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AnnaLynn wrote:

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Dude--read your own history. It's full of racism. Why do you have the Windsors instead of the Saxe-Cobergs? Why was the language of the court French instead of English? Why was cursed John one of the first kings to actually speak (however badly) English?

Jim wrote:

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Annalynn, while I have sympathy for the point you are trying to make, I think you do more to undermine it. You compare people from different periods with those of the 21st century. One should not assess early 20th century people using 21st century standards, let alone the Saxons using the modern understanding of ‘racist’. The examples you give have little to do with racism. They are earlier cultures in the UK. Those Royals were not re-named because the Royals were racists, but because we were at war with Germany. The Royal family at the time were cosmopolitan and sophisticated and needed to relate to the general population. Whilst racism may have some bearing on that it is misleading, not a useful example!! The purpose of reading history books is to gain understanding. Thinking of Normans being racist towards Saxons for 500 years is simply very funny.
Also, please consider the balance of arguments. Some might have the impression that you think UK society is especially racist? More so than say, the USA? We have had fanatics standing outside our own Parliament issuing insults and threats, which suggests at least some measure of tolerance.
I hope you see my point and do not see these objections as unfair or some kind of attack on you, or take offence. I hope you can see as I do, the funny side to your comments.

AnnaLynn wrote:

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Ask me again next century. That's historically how long it takes with you.

anthony dawanyi wrote:

england has a long way to go

Mr Giblets wrote:

we never had blatant violent racism until we let Moslems in. Now we have the full benefits of islamic
barbarism.

AnnaLynn wrote:

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Dude--read your own history. It's full of racism. Why do you have the Windsors instead of the Saxe-Cobergs? Why was the language of the court French instead of English? Why was cursed John one of the first kings to actually speak (however badly) English?

Guy wrote:

<quoted text>because they were prepared to work hard at all the crap jobs that the Britsh wouldn't do???

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mr Giblets wrote:

....late as always...

AnnaLynn wrote:

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If you Europeans had learned to handle your own matters properly, we wouldn't have had to come over at all. What did territorial squabbles halfway across the world between people who looked down their noses at us have to do with us anyway?
We've spent the last 200 years cleaning up your messes, and all you do is criticize.