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tess wrote:

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I agree wtih you 100 %. However, I felt like AJ that most muslims are good decent ppl, before I read the koran and studied the hadiths. Curiously, they can appear as decent ppl, but I also have the feeling that deep down they have a completely different agenda, and it's NOT ensuring the freedoms that God gave every man to exercise free agency.

Try reading the Old Testament and all the BS it has to say. I particularly like the ethnic cleansing orders God gave the Hebrews in Joshua. Now, should we apply the same logic you just used to Jews?

My next door neighbor is Muslim. I've met cabbies who were Muslim. The ones I've talked to all said the same thing: Sharia Law is dependent on culture, not Islam. None of the ones I talked to said anything good about Sharia Law. They chalked it up to culture, not necessarily religion.

Please tell me you guys do not consider yourselves Christian. I fail to see love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, or judge not lest ye be judged in any of you bad mouthing another religion.

The final crusade wrote:

CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE.
All decent muslims should put their agenda of converting the world to Islam as ordered by Allah and Mohammed ASIDE.

Just as all Christians should stop trying to convert everyone to Christianity, right?

MiddleWay wrote:

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Settle down chicken little. There is not sharia law, at least in the USA, and the srange thing is, we have Muslims living here now!
Your assumptions are very telling of the type of person YOU are.
Projection at it's best....

Hey MiddleWay, ever get the feeling there's only a handful of us preaching sanity? God, I look at all this hate in here and in other forums and wonder, how the hell is the world not blown up yet?

We clearly got our work cut out for us, don't we? Trying to get people to actually live together in peace?

I sense much fear out there....

Anti-Jihad wrote:

Even on 9/11 it was not Muslim pilots who did this, it was them terrorists who happened to be Muslims, it is Islam, not Muslims that is to blame. The vast majority of Muslims are as nice as you and me.

that's what you all say, but do you stand up against the militants? the only good moslem is a non-religious moslem, not a real one. Give the religion up, stop calling yourself a moslem , then I will trust you.

Was the bus driver wrong to stop the bus to pray? Yes. I think Allah understands "cross traffic does not stop". Is he an example of Islam? No. Just as certain Christians do not reflect Christianity. Like those morons that picket soldier funerals calling the US evil for allowing homosexuality. True representations of Christian charity and good will they are! LOL!!!

Stereotyping any group is inherently incorrect. There are ALWAYS exceptions, differences, etc. Judge the individual, not the group.

CCS wrote:

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Just as all Christians should stop trying to convert everyone to Christianity, right?

what has that to do with it? Christians don't do stupid things like this bloke, or want to behead everyone.
this is about mooslems, no-one else.

Saudi Victim wrote:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/c hina/2008-02/01/content_643615 0.htm
Ambulance driver stops and naps(China Daily)
2008-02-01
An ambulance driver greatly upset the family of a patient surnamed Chen when he stopped halfway to the hospital to take a nap in Hainan province over the weekend.
Chen's family called an ambulance from Hainan People's Hospital in Haikou after Chen broke a bone while working on Saturday night. They paid all the fees for the service.
To their dismay, the driver stopped on the way to Haikou for a 30-minute nap, despite protests from Chen's family.
The nurse and another medical professional refused to ask the driver to wake up.
DO YOU THINK THE EMBULANCE DRIVER IS MUSLIM? OR HE JUST CRAZY LIKE THE BUS DRIVER?

probably both. all moslems are potty, and love to show off like this.

Scottish-Girl wrote:

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My husband and I somewhat had a little conversation over this, and I have no dout we'd win a ww3 against these lot....
Just wait on prayer time (As the bus driver showed) then do as we want, because their religion states they need to pray at certain times or they are not worthy of allah

perhaps that's why they always get beaten by the Jews, even when the Jews are outnumbered? also Saddam's beating by the US army in the 1st Gulf war was the biggest and most one-sided defeat in all recorded history. Or, are they just plain old cowards?

It starts out with innocent enough accomodations - head gear,
foot baths, adjusting for a ridiculous 5x intrusion into the business
day..then the "head gear" gets a bit more extreme-burkahs...
and they get "prayer rooms" in non-religious building....and 5x a day
starts to dictate the schedules of the work world. All the while the
thinking of a society is similarly getting, "adjusted." Now satire,
like political cartoons, comedy, movies, plays, books, films and
broadcast outlets must "adapt:" so as not to offend. Hotels take
bibles out of rooms so the Koran can be kept at the front desk with
all the holy books...schools must include Muslim studies..

How come for 200 years Muslims worhipped privately in the West- Europe and America-without incident or brazen boundary pushing?
Why are bus drivers compelled to force a confrontation?
Schoolgirls suddenly MUST cover their heads? Websites can't offer FITNA
without risking death threats? Because the next stage of Jihad is here-
Clerics know they will lose followers to the freedoms of open society
if they don't do something. Just like Bin Laden wants to reclaim Mecca
because the Saudis are not holy enough for him....ayatollahs want to
destroy Western culture before it destroys them. Mass communication
has penetrated the isolation of Islam. To survive Islam must attack.

UK TOO,

YES, he is pissed cause he is a convert.

At least he did not stop to go on a RAMP-SHOOTING.

JIHAD,

Some people keep others waiting to PRAY, while some (leaders) keep others waiting while they are fingering P---YS.

how crule is life!!

Mr Giblets wrote:

<quoted text> all moslems are potty

ALL MOSLEMS ARE POTTY !
how polite you are! you should apologize for saying this.

Saudi Victim wrote:

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ALL MOSLEMS ARE POTTY !
how polite you are! you should apologize for saying this.

Enough with infidels apologising to muslims.

The final crusade wrote:

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Controversial.
Moderate muslims is a myth.
The "majority" of muslims secretly cripple democracies in order to weaken it and facilitate the imposal of sharia law (fifth column).
Most of them won't publicly confirm it.
Though imagine if muslims in the West instead of being 2-5 per cent, were 25-50%.
Nearly all muslims would proudly scream to the top of their lungs, yeah, we want sharia now!
Could anyone imagine such a radical situation when sharia will indeed be the law in the West.
It's just a matter of time.
Unless WWIII breaks out.

If you keep repeating this c'rap enough, you might even start to believe it yourself.
I live in a country which is 90 percent Muslim and the majority is AGAINST sharia law. How do you explain that?

Next time I'm at work I might stop for a wank.

my kind of town wrote:

It starts out with innocent enough accomodations - head gear,
foot baths, adjusting for a ridiculous 5x intrusion into the business
day..then the "head gear" gets a bit more extreme-burkahs...
and they get "prayer rooms" in non-religious building....and 5x a day
starts to dictate the schedules of the work world. All the while the
thinking of a society is similarly getting, "adjusted." Now satire,
like political cartoons, comedy, movies, plays, books, films and
broadcast outlets must "adapt:" so as not to offend. Hotels take
bibles out of rooms so the Koran can be kept at the front desk with
all the holy books...schools must include Muslim studies..
How come for 200 years Muslims worhipped privately in the West- Europe and America-without incident or brazen boundary pushing?
Why are bus drivers compelled to force a confrontation?
Schoolgirls suddenly MUST cover their heads? Websites can't offer FITNA
without risking death threats? Because the next stage of Jihad is here-
Clerics know they will lose followers to the freedoms of open society
if they don't do something. Just like Bin Laden wants to reclaim Mecca
because the Saudis are not holy enough for him....ayatollahs want to
destroy Western culture before it destroys them. Mass communication
has penetrated the isolation of Islam. To survive Islam must attack.

"How come for 200 years Muslims worhipped privately in the West- Europe and America-without incident or brazen boundary pushing?" Because in the 1930s some zealots started getting a following, and when the oil dollars began pouring in in the 1970s they were in a position to spread their poison around the globe, sowing the seeds of conflict where before there were none. A lot of them remain in Saudi Arabia today (not Iraq or Afghanistan or any other country with a Muslim majority). Read your history and it's very clear where the conflict has risen from.

AsiaSauce wrote:

<quoted text>If you keep repeating this c'rap enough, you might even start to believe it yourself.
I live in a country which is 90 percent Muslim and the majority is AGAINST sharia law. How do you explain that?

Why don't Muslim moderates spead out against the extremists?
Why don't they send tapes to Al Jezeera?

AsiaSauce wrote:

<quoted text>If you keep repeating this c'rap enough, you might even start to believe it yourself.
I live in a country which is 90 percent Muslim and the majority is AGAINST sharia law. How do you explain that?

How do you explain the province of Aceh?

August 1, 2006
Indonesian Province Embraces Islamic Law

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Aceh, where Islam has always been more rigorously observed, is the first of Indonesia’s 33 provinces to put Shariah law onto the books. Special Shariah courts established to mete out punishments have been operating for a year.

Now, some of Indonesia’s other provincial governments are looking to Aceh as a model for how they might more formalize Shariah laws already on the books. More than a score of townships across Indonesia have introduced Shariah-like laws that fall short of the precision of the religious laws here. cont.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/world/asia/...

Jean Bennington wrote:

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How do you explain the province of Aceh?
August 1, 2006
Indonesian Province Embraces Islamic Law
(excerpt-
Aceh, where Islam has always been more rigorously observed, is the first of Indonesia’s 33 provinces to put Shariah law onto the books. Special Shariah courts established to mete out punishments have been operating for a year.
Now, some of Indonesia’s other provincial governments are looking to Aceh as a model for how they might more formalize Shariah laws already on the books. More than a score of townships across Indonesia have introduced Shariah-like laws that fall short of the precision of the religious laws here. cont.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/world/asia/...

So..what's that got to do with anything,
Do you foresee something I should be afraid of?

who wrote:

<quoted text>So..what's that got to do with anything,
Do you foresee something I should be afraid of?

It means AsiaSauce hasn't got a clue. And if you don't see
the problem neither do you.