In Europe, skylines reflect the rise of Islam

Christian forum = dimmywits losers forum hahahahahahah

Superwit wrote:

Christian forum = dimmywits losers forum hahahahahahah

Is that called SICK~LERS~VILLE where you live?
Perfect place for you

The Rock
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

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Lakshmi72 wrote:

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What about them?
They are most welcome.

oKKEY, THANK u.
sHALOM.

@ Christians

Your forum has been taken over, I'm in charge now.

From now on I decide who walks & talks here.

In the coming months the whole structure will be altered & will be more Islamic.(INSHALLAH)

PEACE.........

Rip wrote:

<quoted text>Happy anniversary Muq. According to my computer, this thread started on July 26 07. I dropped out because I'm afraid Kipling was correct when he said "East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet" and therefore it just became a frustration with a lot of hard feelings thrown in. But I remembered you, and your tenacity is noteworthy indeed. Your battle royale with Easter Bunny was memorable. Imagine, once around the Sun typing away! Stay well.

Thank you Sir for your information that we have indeed gone around the sun and still debating. These threads and every thing we write on it are not laughing matters. I take them seriously and try to tell the truth to the best of my capability and limitations.

I remember our interactions with Easter Bunny, it was going fine, when she suddenly changed her tone and started using non civil language. To me that is an indication that the discussion should stop, because they have no more things to discuss. You revert to name calling and abusive language when you have no rational arguments.

Thank you for remembering that discussion. I wish you all the best (May be till next year?)

Lakshmi72 wrote:

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When muslims immigrate to the West, they have their citizen wrights just like any other citizen.
No special provisions should be made for anybody.
What counts is the law of the country you immigrate to.
If muslims do not like it, they should not come here.

Just tell how are the laws of country made? They are made for the citizens of country and reflect their wishes.

When people felt that Homosexuality was bad, it was punishable by law. When they "Discovered" that they were at fault and Homosexuality is as "Natural" as a "New Born Baby", so they legalized it. So the laws are made for the convenience of the citizens.

When Muslims become citizens of any country (and they are in sizable numbers), they also want laws to help them. What I was saying is that existence of different personal laws in a country does not weakens it, but it is a healthy sign of Multi-Culture. If your country laws are such that Muslims cannot live there (for example if you make Homosexuality compulsory, or Ban Prayers, or Make Pork Eating Compulsory etc.) then Muslims would not come to your country.

Prophet After Mohammad wrote:

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Your Father, mother and sister and brothers all live in your home, I move in and bring my family. It has more people in it, We now own you and your home, ok? You are under our authority now ok? Now you have to serve us as we want and do what we like. Good idea?

You have given a wrong analogy. The house is owned by one man and others are either his guests or dependents. The house runs as per the wishes of the owner of house.

The analogy of different people living in a country is not same as many people living in one house. All citizens of country have equal rights on the country. If you make special provisions for some one, it does not harm other people in any way.

It is only a perceived threat to their own views that they own this country and these people have no say in it.

MUQ wrote:

When Muslims become citizens of any country (and they are in sizable numbers), they also want laws to help them. What I was saying is that existence of different personal laws in a country does not weakens it, but it is a healthy sign of Multi-Culture. If your country laws are such that Muslims cannot live there (for example if you make Homosexuality compulsory, or Ban Prayers, or Make Pork Eating Compulsory etc.) then Muslims would not come to your country.

"Multiculture" means the existence of parallel societies.

I am against multiculture.

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Why are you as a Saudi Arabian so vehemently defending immigrants while in Saudi Arabia not even bibles--not to mention churches--are allowed?

Spreading Islam?

fresno wrote:

It will happen as in Milan Italy where bomb making liquids were found inside the mosque recently and the Imam along with 3 others were arrested.The same happened in U.K where mosques were misused.Mosques misuse can be a security threat to any society.

Peace,
Respectfully.

I heard that Vatican admits that priests rape nuns who stuff their fetuses into drains and that same priests also like little boys and sometimes girls.

Peace.

Muslim wrote:

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Peace,
Respectfully.
I heard that Vatican admits that priests rape nuns who stuff their fetuses into drains and that same priests also like little boys and sometimes girls.
Peace.

More (apparent) evidence of how evil and twisted ALL you believers are!

Muslim wrote:

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Peace,
Respectfully.
I heard that Vatican admits that priests rape nuns who stuff their fetuses into drains and that same priests also like little boys and sometimes girls.
Peace.

Just like pervy mohammed i thought you would be pleased that they follow in the ways as that wanker bacon breath mohammed.

MUQ wrote:

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You have given a wrong analogy. The house is owned by one man and others are either his guests or dependents. The house runs as per the wishes of the owner of house.
The analogy of different people living in a country is not same as many people living in one house. All citizens of country have equal rights on the country. If you make special provisions for some one, it does not harm other people in any way.
It is only a perceived threat to their own views that they own this country and these people have no say in it.

Do you mean like the Palistinians running the Jews out of their own house?

MUQ wrote:

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You have given a wrong analogy. The house is owned by one man and others are either his guests or dependents. The house runs as per the wishes of the owner of house.
The analogy of different people living in a country is not same as many people living in one house. All citizens of country have equal rights on the country. If you make special provisions for some one, it does not harm other people in any way.
It is only a perceived threat to their own views that they own this country and these people have no say in it.

Or what about the Muslim countries persecuting Christians and having so many refugees wanting to escape to save their lives like in Africa countries? Is Christianity allowed to be taught according to the Bible in those lands or is it limited to what the leaders allow? Don't lie I know already. i have many friends there online and they tell me how Muslims mistreat them everyday. They are considered less than human, Do you think that those countries would allow them to move in and change the laws to suit their religion, NO! How about is We Christians charge a muslim tax on them here in USA? Does that sound good to you? What if we command them that they are to submit to Jesus Christ or they will have to be killed, There is a good idea. Tell me how you can justify these differences and then say thet all countries should allow freedom of one's rights to worship? Or is that only to apply to your religin?

Muslim 4 Christ wrote:

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Or what about the Muslim countries persecuting Christians and having so many refugees wanting to escape to save their lives like in Africa countries? Is Christianity allowed to be taught according to the Bible in those lands or is it limited to what the leaders allow? Don't lie I know already. i have many friends there online and they tell me how Muslims mistreat them everyday. They are considered less than human, Do you think that those countries would allow them to move in and change the laws to suit their religion, NO! How about is We Christians charge a muslim tax on them here in USA? Does that sound good to you? What if we command them that they are to submit to Jesus Christ or they will have to be killed, There is a good idea. Tell me how you can justify these differences and then say thet all countries should allow freedom of one's rights to worship? Or is that only to apply to your religin?

Peace,
Respectfully.

You should know that all those people who call themselves Muslims are not Real Muslims, they are sunnis which is why all this terror and persecutions are in progress.

You're right, sunnis and shias in the world are causing people to feel bad, they mistreat people, they kill and destroy and most of all, they oppress women, women are the MOST oppressed humans on the planet, epecially in the Middle East.

What can we do about that?
Let's fight them with intelligence, let's fight them according to our age and intelligence.

Peace.

xians — Helpless, Hopeless, Homeless, Hoofless...

NUFSAID..........

Lakshmi72 wrote:

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"Multiculture" means the existence of parallel societies.
I am against multiculture.
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Why are you as a Saudi Arabian so vehemently defending immigrants while in Saudi Arabia not even bibles--not to mention churches--are allowed?
Spreading Islam?

Many people might not like Multi-culture, but mostly they have no choice but to accept it.

There was need in Europe at the end of WW-2 for increased manpower. Existing population and growth rate of population were not enough for that, so they had little choice but to ask for immigrant workforce from other parts of the world.

USA, Canada and Australia have less population than the sizes of their countries, so they need additional manpower for development. These countries are basically based on Immigrants.

When people from all parts of world came to live in any country, there is no option but to have many cultures in one country. So it is an "evil" which they have to bear with. My sympathies are with you, but you cannot do any thing.

For your information, I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia. I am not a Saudi National.

Saudi Arabia was multi-culture since beginning. As center of Islamic world, Muslims from various parts of world would come here and settle. They had same religion, but their languages and customs were different. Over the years they produced a composite culture.

That was before the discovery of oil, after that Saudi Arabia needed foreign manpower to get overnight development. Millions of workers from all over the world came to Saudi Arabia and are working here. They have different languages and different cultures with them.

But since Saudi Arabia is Citadel, Sanctuary and Vanguard of Islam, the nationality is not given to these foreign workers. They come there of their own choice and no one forces them to come and work in Saudi Arabia. But they follow their religions and their practices in their houses. Propagation of any other religion is not allowed in Saudi Arabia due to conditions mentioned above.

Before discovery of Oil, Saudi Arabia had no attractions for any one else except Muslims. Why would they come to the desert swept land, with very little water and no irrigation or minerals?

Muslim 4 Christ wrote:

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Or what about the Muslim countries persecuting Christians and having so many refugees wanting to escape to save their lives like in Africa countries? Is Christianity allowed to be taught according to the Bible in those lands or is it limited to what the leaders allow? Don't lie I know already. i have many friends there online and they tell me how Muslims mistreat them everyday. They are considered less than human, Do you think that those countries would allow them to move in and change the laws to suit their religion, NO! How about is We Christians charge a muslim tax on them here in USA? Does that sound good to you? What if we command them that they are to submit to Jesus Christ or they will have to be killed, There is a good idea. Tell me how you can justify these differences and then say thet all countries should allow freedom of one's rights to worship? Or is that only to apply to your religin?

I don’t know of any Muslim country that persecutes Christians as a religious or social or political policy. If you have any examples then tell me. If any Muslim country is doing it, they are doing wrong. There could be discriminations, which is a human weakness. Muslims are also discriminated against in many Non Muslim countries. I do not say that Muslims are angels. But Islam is against oppression and persecution of Non Muslims living in its lands.

Propagation of other faiths in True Islamic countries is not allowed and there is a reason for that. We ask these people to prove and convince us that their religion is indeed better than Islam. They never take this challenge to prove that their religion is indeed better than Islam.

However citizens of other faith, who live in Islamic countries are allowed to live peacefully and follow their religion, but they are not allowed to propagate their faith to Muslims. But the doors of discussions are always open.

Re you comment on deporting Muslims from USA; First you have to declare that USA is Christian country? To my knowledge majority of your population is Atheist. If you want to put a charge on Muslims, then you also have to put a charge on Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists and followers of other religions. In Islamic countries when you pay JIZYA, you get protection of state, freedom to follow your religion, freedom to follow your personal laws and many more benefits, which you do not give to followers of other religion in your lands (Even when you put a tax on them).

The choice to accept Jesus Christ or be killed is not a new one from Christians!! They did it in past and that is how Christianity spread so fast in Europe in the first place (Have a look at European religious history for past 2000 years). Then Spain gave that Choice to Muslims in 1498, Accept Christianity or be killed. If US also decide to follow that path, then it won't surprise us.

What would you do to Jews in USA? Or this choice is only for Muslims?(By the way, Muslims believe in Jesus more than even Christians, only thing is that we reject St. Paul and his innovations which he introduced in Christianity)

Smitty, Trisha, Mohni and Ms Gupta say that Muslims Killed 600 Million Hindus in India !!!!!.

Question: How did they reach this figure?

Answer: Just by fingering their t.in.k.l.e.r.s statistically as shown in this video:).

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

King Kong wrote:

Smitty, Trisha, Mohni and Ms Gupta say that Muslims Killed 600 Million Hindus in India !!!!!.
Question: How did they reach this figure?
Answer: Just by fingering their t.in.k.l.e.r.s statistically as shown in this video:).
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Total numbers of Muslim coming to India from outside does not exceed 100,000. If these 100,000 Muslims could kill 600,000,000 Hindus, then only thing possible is that their forefathers were extremely cowards and allowed them to be slaughtered like cows and goats.

Muslims did not had any Atomic Bombs or Missiles to kill millions at a time. Using swords and bows and arrows how is it possible to kill so many persons in beyond imagination.

There seems to be too much exeggeration in this figure.