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Nationalize oil, use revenue to develop clean power

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Matt_PSU

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#21
Jul 23, 2008
 
The Lib Terminator wrote:
We have energy.
We need energy.
DRILL HERE!
DRILL NOW!
PAY LESS!
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When did you start adding "oil"? nice.
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#22
Jul 23, 2008
 
The best example of how this would not work is the Alaskian Oil Pipeline we built 35+ years ago. NONE of this oil has ever come to the USA. It all has always gone to the highest bidder - JAPAN. Do you really think our government would change that plan?
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#23
Jul 23, 2008
 
Nationalization does not mean the government can't use the same companies now in business to extract the oil. Hell we nationalized the losses of the failure companies, the financials such as Fannie, Freddie and Bear Sterns. Why not grab some of the revenue from the oil extracted from government owned land?
McChainey08

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#24
Jul 23, 2008
 
I knew all the right wing wackos would get their panties in a bunch reading this letter. FYI to the idiots, Russia will soon have us over a barrel, no pun intended, when they control as much of our debt as China. We're toast financially due to 8 years of borrow and spend Republican policies. Dubai is emerging as the world's dominant financial player as China becomes the manufacturing heavy weight champion of the world and India the dominant info-tech player. What will we have? Debt and a lot of high tech weapons. The USA is not immune to the fate of past empires. Arrogance and a sense of righteousness has not prevented their march to insignificance. We in this country still have an opportunity to save ourselves but the greed of those with all the power leaves little doubt the fate awaiting the majority of Americans. Low wages and a decreased standard of living will creep up slowly and when people finally wake up it will be too late as the system will become cemented in place.
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#25
Jul 23, 2008
 
I don't think you'll see the gov getting behind an energy source that differs from coal, oil or nuclear anytime soon.. Plus, they are spending alot of OUR money and future money on bailing out their buddies in banking and finance plus 2 wars so no big pile to develop and implement alt energy.

If you really want to usurp these clowns, develop your own low energy lifestyle. Drive as little as possible with a small car.Buy only local organic produce. The one that will really make the smoke come out of their ears is if you go off grid solar with your home. Not that simple but worth it in the long run for you as a consumer, for us as inhabitants of the planet, and as citizens by taking away power from the big energy companies and government.
Greenhouse Gas Emitter

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Jul 24, 2008
 
McChainey08 wrote:
I knew all the right wing wackos would get their panties in a bunch reading this letter. FYI to the idiots, Russia will soon have us over a barrel, no pun intended, when they control as much of our debt as China. We're toast financially due to 8 years of borrow and spend Republican policies. Dubai is emerging as the world's dominant financial player as China becomes the manufacturing heavy weight champion of the world and India the dominant info-tech player. What will we have? Debt and a lot of high tech weapons. The USA is not immune to the fate of past empires. Arrogance and a sense of righteousness has not prevented their march to insignificance. We in this country still have an opportunity to save ourselves but the greed of those with all the power leaves little doubt the fate awaiting the majority of Americans. Low wages and a decreased standard of living will creep up slowly and when people finally wake up it will be too late as the system will become cemented in place.
I agree in part that the country as a whole has enjoyed the glut of wealth and prosperity over the past 60 years. I agree that we need to conserve in all aspects of life and get back to the basics and the truely important things in life. My problem with your statement that you seem to think that the government is better at running things than we are. The same government that is full of rich elitist that could not careless about us until election time. The same government that bankrupted themselves. Why should they get more money than the revenues that they will get from the taxes that will be created in the revenues of the oil companies. How about the government leads by example and learns to balance their budgets and stop borrowing from everywhere else. Both sides of the aisle are spending like crazy tennagers with their parents credit cards!

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Jul 24, 2008
 
McChainey08 wrote:
I knew all the right wing wackos would get their panties in a bunch reading this letter. FYI to the idiots, Russia will soon have us over a barrel, no pun intended, when they control as much of our debt as China.
The present problems were due in large measure to feel good environmental policy promoted by Democrats and liberals.
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Now these people think wind turbines will solve all our problems.
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Seems with these folks no policy is so bad it's not worth repeating again and again.

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Jul 24, 2008
 
Greenhouse Gas Emitter wrote:
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Both sides of the aisle are spending like crazy tennagers with their parents credit cards!
I was always amused about the Democrats complaining about spending. When the Republicans were in control of Congress, I never heard a Democrat complain about more spending and they never said "no thanks" to a bill that benefitted their district.
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Watching Congress since the return of the Democrats in 2006, one can only conclude their real desire was just to able to get more of the pie and increase taxes to pay for it and then again spend more and again increase taxes to pay for it.
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Seems Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) managed to drain more swamp into the swamp.
Bob

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Jul 24, 2008
 
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The present problems were due in large measure to feel good environmental policy promoted by Democrats and liberals.
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Now these people think wind turbines will solve all our problems.
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Seems with these folks no policy is so bad it's not worth repeating again and again.
Are you really so simpleminded and out of touch that you can look at something as complex as the global oil situation and think that environmental policy has any measurable effect on it? I imagine you're one of those who also thinks that drilling in ANWAR and off the Continental Shelf will magically put cheap gas in your car in two years. It won't. Get some facts instead of blaming everything on liberals.
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Jul 24, 2008
 
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I was always amused about the Democrats complaining about spending. When the Republicans were in control of Congress, I never heard a Democrat complain about more spending and they never said "no thanks" to a bill that benefitted their district.
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Watching Congress since the return of the Democrats in 2006, one can only conclude their real desire was just to able to get more of the pie and increase taxes to pay for it and then again spend more and again increase taxes to pay for it.
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Seems Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) managed to drain more swamp into the swamp.
No Democratic president or congress ever dreamed of running up the credit card like this past administration. They borrow and spend like drunken sailors. Wake up.

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#31
Jul 24, 2008
 
Bob wrote:
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Are you really so simpleminded and out of touch that you can look at something as complex as the global oil situation and think that environmental policy has any measurable effect on it? I imagine you're one of those who also thinks that drilling in ANWAR and off the Continental Shelf will magically put cheap gas in your car in two years. It won't. Get some facts instead of blaming everything on liberals.
Simple minded is what I have been hearing from Congress since 2006.
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Then again, we have a simple minded Speaker Of The House who simply makes simple minded simply easy.
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Now, I thought Hasert & Frist were pretty simple, but I commend Nancy Pelosi (and Harry Reid D-NV) for out simpling the Republicans. I suppose their work should be recognized.
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How did I draw this conclusion? I watch them on CSpan where their simple mindness is broadcasted out into the world unfiltered by their simple minded mouthpieces in the media.
The Lib Terminator

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#32
Jul 24, 2008
 
Matt_PSU wrote:
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When did you start adding "oil"? nice.
Matt PSU,

Anything to stir the ire of extremist leftwing nutjobs.

And it has.

It gives me the opportunity to show how nutty they really are.

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#33
Jul 24, 2008
 
steve-2304 wrote:
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Jerry, without nationalizing the oil industry, you can let them drill all over the U.S. and they can still turn around and sell it to whomever they want. And they'll sell it to China and India before keeping it here, as the demand is higher over there.
You see Jerry, oil companies are in business to make money. They could care less what Americans are paying at the pump.
I'm not saying I agree with the letter writer, because I don't. I just want you to understand the problem with your own ideas. Drilling offshore or in ANWR does not mean Americans will get that oil. Or that the price will go down either.
Comrade Steve,

You assume, as all socialists, that real Americans are twisted just like you guys are.

Most American business work to make America great. And earn an honest profit to boot. That's a lesson and fact that eludes you.

Real American business men are not as greedy as socialists like you believe and act on. That's your problem.

Free Enterprise and limited government worked to make America the great nation she has become.

The fact is creepy socialism that we have had in recent decades is responsible for the corruption we seem to have everywhere, especially at the high echelons of politics.

We need to get rid of all the socialism that we do have to make America once again the lean machine of progress and freedom that has always been our hallmark.

Our success in Iraqi freedom is just a start.

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#34
Jul 24, 2008
 
Batter Up wrote:
I guess Reagan didn't take out all the commies!
Comrade,

No!

There are too many of them. Most run around as Presidential candidates like NObama.

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#35
Jul 28, 2008
 
moral hazard wrote:
Yesterday's business page carried this story http://www.mcall.com/business/local/all-oil.6... about the oil companies devoting most of their profits to stock buy-backs and dividends rather than exploration. 55 percent of profit now goes to dividends and buybacks, up from just 1 percent in 1993. Big oil is in the process of liquidating itself--they know the oil exploration game is over, there is little new oil left to find, so they're rewarding themselves and their investors, hoping the public and the government don't catch on and impose a windfall profits tax. I prefer higher taxes on profits rather than outright nationalization. By the way, Norway nationalized its oil company. Norway has the highest standard of living in the world. But of course Norway is a decadent socialist European country, and we wouldn't want to live there. We prefer scrounging behind the sofa cushions for spare change for gas money, and having the freedom to decide if we are going to eat, pay the mortgage, or heat our homes this winter.
Norway has 300 million people living there or less than 5 million people living there? It's a high standard due to suich few people living there & very few people wanting to live there. Try for a better example than Norway. Very laughable.
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#37
Aug 25, 2008
 
StaberDearth wrote:
This letter is chilling. You ARE being sarcastic, are you not? If not, your public school indoctrination is complete. Tack to the far left.
Little by little, it is opinion such as this that will eventually take us down. Like the proverbial frog in the pot of slowly heating water.
The government? Tell us all what it does well when it comes to welfare programs and management of industries. Can you imagine the graft and corruption. Let's make it quick and put the bozos from the PA Dem party in charge. Theyll know how to plow the profits "back in".
Amen, government controlling something = waste, corruption and mismanagement. Socialization of industries is just the first step to communism. In fact, thats what communist leaders do first to overthrow a free market country, like in venezuela, for example with Hugo Chavez. Socialists will chip away at the free market, bit by bit, while adding communist healthcare ect, till all the business is owned by the government and we all become slaves begging for government handouts....
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