Let us rename "Russia" and give it back it´s true historical name - "muscovy"!

JohnK wrote:

SkobelevMihail
1. Chechnya and Georgia and other places in Russian territory.

Yep. All this on our territory or on our borders. This our inside business.

What about Iraq , Serbia or Afghanistan?
May be thats all because American military dont know geography ?

2. Missing people in Chechnya. No information on what goes on there. No human rights groups allowed in because Russia always claims they are unfair. No reporters. Give me a break. Go ask the Chechnyan’s what they think of the methods of your Russian soldiers.

It is our businesses.

I believe what sometime you will have ability to meet with Chechen divisions "Vosotk" and "Zapad". Try ask them self:-)

3. Moral rights. I guess Russia has the patent on moral rights. Research a little and you will find out that no country has moral rights. All have done bad things over time.

Say that to your stupid president Bush and to Rice.
How they can claim about human rights after they do in Iraq and Afghanistan and in self country too 911.

Looks like Democracy (c) and Human Rights (c) is trademarks of America.

4. Cutting gas off to countries for political gains. America does not use much gas and has plenty of it. Your lack of knowledge again.

How hypocrisy.

Cuba is many ten of years in economical siege.

USA have many law what prevent work with another countries, for example amendment of Djecson&Venic about Jews immigration (bring to a close against USSR, so far work against Russia).

USA trying also siege many foreign companies.
Mainly who rival USA companies in military , nuclear and so on.

American geologist found American gas and oil under territory of Iraq and Iran.?

5. Reporters are a good example in Russia of killings and America is a larger country population wise. Mnay of your murders go unsolved.

LOL.
And we know true about Iraq war only from soldiers internet blogs.

Who kill Kennedy ? Or who burn two tower ins New York at 911?

6. Just listen to the speeches from Iran. The Koran is included in all speeches. Using the Koran to justify harm to others makes it a clerical regime.

Just listen American President speeches. Who talk about spreading "democracy" and "human rights" voluntary?

For me that looks like more strange that quotes from Koran.

Or at your opinion all peoples in the world must sign "God Bless America" ?:-)

7. Gangs of skinheads running around beating up people because on that day they do not like that country. Free press giving varying positions on subjects not allowed especially if they criticize the mega-God Putin.

LOL.
How Bush elected in second election?
Free press ?
Nu nu:-)

1a.
Yep. Some time ago(about month or two),some free press from Poland write, what we dont have even toilets. And use public conveniences :-). Live in dugout and starve.:-)

2a.
How about best in the World dam in Norton Carolina? And your Space Shuttle ?
How about American skyscrapers what resist even plane fallen ?:-)

3a.
And on this "old equipment" we make military products and sell it around all world. As i can remember Russia have second in the world sales volume in military equipment :-) And we have strong position in equipment for nuclear power plants. From 2010 you can arrive to International Space Station only with our ships.

Your products only have nice marketing and many advertising, nothing more :-)

You are simple stupid snobs, you are think what if you waste many money you have better result. As in with research about ball-point for null gravity.
We are simply use the pencils.

4a.
America mega-rich live on credits. Main creditors are China, Japan and Russia.:-)

5a.
Average American person dont have even average Russian brains.

6a.
America have bigger in the world population in its prisons.
Most crime country in the world.

7a.
Yep. After Soviet Union was end, we have this problem, beginning from presidency of "democratic" Eltsin.
But how about Exxon and Enron ?

8a.
Yep. When America will fall in economical-social collapse . We will see your roads and all others , soon after.
Effect of Soviet Union fall down was comparable with effect of WW2 for us.

9a.
Change Russia to USA, and Russian to American and repeat to self.

You are have Bush-junior who , fairy images, become a president in a second time. Your CNN and FOX is not free press, as WSJ, WP and many others. Tell about free press someone without brains.

10a.
Does not matter how you see to us. After Iraq, Serbia, Afganisnat, Guantanumo, Georgia , we want nothing from you, nor acceptance nor approving.

Isolation ? LOL.
Close your end of pipelines first. And then talk about isolation.

If peoples trust USA economy ,what happening with dollar ?
You only sponger on body of world. You consume more than produce and live on credit. I think this cannot go on for ever.

11a.
Why we must?
Because your "free press" say what we dont have democracy?
:-)
"We dont need your democracy as in Iraq"(c)

We have own questions to our leaders. Most of them not related with you, at all.

SkobelevMihail - It is funny all the defensive things that you throw up and do not admit that one of the things I said was true. You cannot find any reasonable ground to discuss because of your blind and total hatred of America. You posted the list first I just responded to you. I should have known better. Your points are very weak and unfortionately it will be the Russian people that eventually pay the price. I am not saying war I am saying economically.

JohnK wrote:

SkobelevMihail - It is funny all the defensive things that you throw up and do not admit that one of the things I said was true. You cannot find any reasonable ground to discuss because of your blind and total hatred of America. You posted the list first I just responded to you. I should have known better. Your points are very weak and unfortionately it will be the Russian people that eventually pay the price. I am not saying war I am saying economically.

You have not arguments, because of this you trying demagogy.

SkobelevMihail - All you have to do is compare posts. I will let others decide what they think. No I do not have agruments your are correct. I try to have dicussions because in arguments there is a winner and a loser. In discussions there can be a winner and a winner.

Sometimes I even be surprised how some peoples may be so impertinent and so hypocrite.

Your need more extra players, call Red, Bobo, "Russia agressor" and so on.

Only on this types of ally you can rely.

Ukraine needs to join NATO as a precaution against Putinist Muscovite treachery.

Yushchenko: Georgia conflict shows Kiev needs NATO

The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
KIEV, Ukraine: Ukraine's president said Wednesday that the Russian invasion of Georgia shows that NATO membership is the only guarantee of his country's independence.

Viktor Yushchenko told visiting U.S. Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham that the conflict in Georgia demonstrates Ukraine's need for NATO protection. The Republican senators were on their way to Georgia to show support for its pro-Western leadership and discuss the crisis.

"Our aim is to receive international guarantees of Ukraine's territorial integrity which is only (guarantee) possible in the framework of collective security," Yushchenko told the senators.

Russian troops have been occupying large parts of Georgia for days. They moved in after Georgian forces tried to take the rebel province of South Ossetia by force earlier this month.

Many Ukrainians worry that after dealing with Georgia, the Kremlin might set its sights on Ukraine. Like Georgia, this former Soviet republic has angered Moscow by seeking closer ties with the West and membership in NATO.

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Red wrote:

Ukrainians have always called Russians "Muscovites" --even to this day.

That's just inferiority complex.
They looks like beggary that loot honest citizens.
Of course Ukrainian Nazi are very funny.
They haven't own church! I always knew they are heathen.
Their history is poor and disgusting. Nothing to speak wild criminal stupid people.

USA? Apparently is up for sale. Many large foreign companes are buying controlling interests in US Corporations. The average US Citizen is pinned down in debt. Can't affrod to feed decently because high quality foods are replaced with bio-engineered crap. Our Buildings and commercial centers are being bought by foreign companies and if you understand history, as I am sure you do, you know that whoever owns the land owns the people. Or at least can control them. The USA is not perceived as a sustainable power from our western point of view. We are sick of the current leader, I never voted for the idiot either, but that doesn't explain why he was reelected. We in the USA have great respect for the people of Ukraine and Russia. Many here are decended from your countries but are now 2nd and 3rd generation American. We do not trust the news media as they continue to spread filtered and controlled news. Lies so to speak. So, you want to remember this: Democracies are not created equal, because whoever establishes the laws is in a positon to cheat them at your expense!

An early American axiom states: "Live Free or Die!"

Famulus01 wrote:

What's more, I remember when traveling from Budapest to Moscow back in the 80s, there was not a single brick-built house in the Ukraine after we left the Carpathians (i. e. the former Hungarian territory), only shacks built of wood. It is still visible where the former borders of the Monarchy (and then Poland) ended. Ukraine is a borderland between two cultures, the wild steppe (dzikich pol) as Sienkiewicz put it in its novel, Ogniem i mieczem (incidentally, Jeremi (Jarema) Wisniowiecki seemed like a great leader).

Where in the world were you travelling? In Odessa Oblast, where I have spent the last two months, I have been amazed by the LACK of wooden construction. Almost everything is stone or brick. I grew up in earthquake country where flexibility almost demands that private homes be frame built, it rattles my cage to see all the nice private homes built of native stone blocks or bricks. Have you been through Odessa? You either looked at only a select part as you passed through or else saw just what you wanted to see.

SkobelevMihail wrote:

1a.
Yep. Some time ago(about month or two),some free press from Poland write, what we dont have even toilets. And use public conveniences :-). Live in dugout and starve.:-)
2a.
How about best in the World dam in Norton Carolina? And your Space Shuttle ?
How about American skyscrapers what resist even plane fallen ?:-)
3a.
And on this "old equipment" we make military products and sell it around all world. As i can remember Russia have second in the world sales volume in military equipment :-) And we have strong position in equipment for nuclear power plants. From 2010 you can arrive to International Space Station only with our ships.
Your products only have nice marketing and many advertising, nothing more :-)
You are simple stupid snobs, you are think what if you waste many money you have better result. As in with research about ball-point for null gravity.
We are simply use the pencils.
4a.
America mega-rich live on credits. Main creditors are China, Japan and Russia.:-)
5a.
Average American person dont have even average Russian brains.
6a.
America have bigger in the world population in its prisons.
Most crime country in the world.
7a.
Yep. After Soviet Union was end, we have this problem, beginning from presidency of "democratic" Eltsin.
But how about Exxon and Enron ?
8a.
Yep. When America will fall in economical-social collapse . We will see your roads and all others , soon after.
Effect of Soviet Union fall down was comparable with effect of WW2 for us.
9a.
Change Russia to USA, and Russian to American and repeat to self.
You are have Bush-junior who , fairy images, become a president in a second time. Your CNN and FOX is not free press, as WSJ, WP and many others. Tell about free press someone without brains.
10a.
Does not matter how you see to us. After Iraq, Serbia, Afganisnat, Guantanumo, Georgia , we want nothing from you, nor acceptance nor approving.
Isolation ? LOL.
Close your end of pipelines first. And then talk about isolation.
If peoples trust USA economy ,what happening with dollar ?
You only sponger on body of world. You consume more than produce and live on credit. I think this cannot go on for ever.
11a.
Why we must?
Because your "free press" say what we dont have democracy?
:-)
"We dont need your democracy as in Iraq"(c)
We have own questions to our leaders. Most of them not related with you, at all.

What a load of crap you are spewing. You are a master of the concept "Take a text out of sontext and make a pretext".
In doing so you make so many errors it is hilarious.
For example it is NOT Bush Jr. The first President Bush was George Herbert Walker Bush. The Second if just George W. Bush. No jr. involved. Chalk up one for ignorance on your side.
It is true that we have many in our prisons. Maybe it is because we try to rehabilitate lawbreakers when possible. Unlike Russia we do not have the luxury of shipping them and losing them in Siberia. We also do not so many "convenient" accidents.

What is happening to the Dollar. On the foreign exchange markets the Dollars has gained about 8% against the Euro in the last two months. Have you looked at the Ruble in the last week? It is on the way down.

We could go on and on but it would probably do no good. YOu are just parroting what your "free press" tells you and don't want to be confused with facts. In one of my wife's favorite Russian Sayings "Go tell it to your grandma".

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Bear wrote:

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Where in the world were you travelling? In Odessa Oblast, where I have spent the last two months, I have been amazed by the LACK of wooden construction. Almost everything is stone or brick. I grew up in earthquake country where flexibility almost demands that private homes be frame built, it rattles my cage to see all the nice private homes built of native stone blocks or bricks. Have you been through Odessa? You either looked at only a select part as you passed through or else saw just what you wanted to see.

He must have been driving his ox cart on the old Russian superhighway. I think it was called Route USSR 666.

I was talking to an architect when they were building the shopping mall on Deribaska St. I asked why the city was tearing down so many limestone buildings and replacing them with glass and steel. He told me that limestone buildings will last forever if you take care of them but noone was. And if you want a location, it is cheaper to tear them down and build a new one out of newer, cheaper materials.