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*Kuxnya or Kukhnya

Pro Ukraine wrote:

<quoted text>Kyxnya is the Ukrainian word for kitchen, not baking, as is kuchen also it's English which has Anglo Saxon roots, they are after all from Germany.

That is what I said Kuxnya ( english alphabet)... you mixed english letters and cyrillic when you spelled kYxnya Y is U, in ukr... but do not mix means kitchen in ukrainian ( from the german Kuchen, which means baking that is done in the Kitchen. Many words are inferentional or locational translations from german to ukrainian. You should try to look at the the larger point of my article though, rather than dissecting. There are many german origin based words in Ukrainian ( schule) german and yidish( school )( shkola ukr).Kontzert ( Concert)( koncert -ukr). It helps to be multilingual , but I am sure you get the point.The Galician Ukr. dialect is especially heavily laced with german and yiddish words from Austro Hungary Empire days. Of course if, you don't know german , you will never know the origins of those words and will imagine it is poor ukrainian.So one must be linguistically knowledgeable, to know what one is speaking in terms of word origin.

Boris Kulovsky wrote:

<quoted text>Well it is Muslims or Islamic Slavs or mixed cutures there in Bosnia and the former Yugosllavia fighting Christians back and forth , is it not for 7 centuries ? Most of Yugoslavia was in the Ottoman empire , so yes it is 1000 years behind, like the middlke east and have the same islamic middle east mindset like the Arab states, in the former Yugoslavia ,so it is very primitively brutal hatred there, even though yes, the former Yugoslavia states are geographically in Europe. You should know that history.

May be, I know the history, but what proves your post?
It happened 20 years ago in Europe, as I told.

Philip Allchurch wrote:

<quoted text>That is what I said Kuxnya ( english alphabet)... you mixed english letters and cyrillic when you spelled kYxnya Y is U, in ukr... but do not mix means kitchen in ukrainian ( from the german Kuchen, which means baking that is done in the Kitchen. Many words are inferentional or locational translations from german to ukrainian. You should try to look at the the larger point of my article though, rather than dissecting. There are many german origin based words in Ukrainian ( schule) german and yidish( school )( shkola ukr).Kontzert ( Concert)( koncert -ukr). It helps to be multilingual , but I am sure you get the point.The Galician Ukr. dialect is especially heavily laced with german and yiddish words from Austro Hungary Empire days. Of course if, you don't know german , you will never know the origins of those words and will imagine it is poor ukrainian.So one must be linguistically knowledgeable, to know what one is speaking in terms of word origin.

I corrected that in my next message. You used Cyrillic "x" in kuxnya, it should be kukhnya, "kh" is the English translation of Cyrillic "x". I do know a little German, other Ukrainian words derived from German are farb (colour) used in Ukrainian as to paint and buterbrod (sandwich) which literally means butter bread. I started learning Italian and found that there are also words in that language which are similar to Ukrainian, such as mare(it) more (ukr) which means sea in English.

Pro Ukraine wrote:

<quoted text>I corrected that in my next message. You used Cyrillic "x" in kuxnya, it should be kukhnya, "kh" is the English translation of Cyrillic "x". I do know a little German, other Ukrainian words derived from German are farb (colour) used in Ukrainian as to paint and buterbrod (sandwich) which literally means butter bread. I started learning Italian and found that there are also words in that language which are similar to Ukrainian, such as mare(it) more (ukr) which means sea in English.

Well that is good, then you should know, that the east slavic language is a language gradient starting in Poland , through Ukraine that stretches into Russia, with many loan words along the border regions from other neighbouring languages. So they are all pretty much mutually understandable slavic languages, at least on a getting - along basis. All these countries are artificial creations, like all countries, that include all kinds of etnicities historically. So you canget german , swedish, gypsy, scottish, jewish , italian, greek -looking ukrainians etc. So you should keep that in mind, and not get too excited abou nationalities.You seem like a good chap, but I sense you lack a very good education and are not well developed educationally, as you actually think that there is a permanent reality to these ethnic divisions and labels. Like I say , If one of your 8 great - grandparents took a two day train trip to then - from Petersburg,Russia to Lemburg in 1840, Austro Hungary , you could be part russian and you would still not know where you came from. Perhaps one of your 8 great grandparents were Jewish Litvaks ( Lithuanians) that moved from Vilnius to Warsaw and then Lwow and polonized and then ukrainianized through marriage with Ukrainians in Austro Hungary , and settled in the Lviv countryside which was very very common and thousands have that history in Galicia.You get the point. You don't know, really do you, about that? How could one know everything? It would be impossible too know everything as no one talks about such things. That is why you should not get to excited about nationalities. All countries after all very artificial.Statistically, if you are of west Ukrainian heritage , you have have Ukrainian, Polish , Russian , Jewish , German , Hungarian , Austrian ,Lithuanian etc. heritage if you were to go back only 200 years.It is inevitable statistically. Ukraine was the first multi - ethnic , multi - cultural modern society, starting to grow as suchvery quickly in the the 1700s as Europeans from all over and even many from the east and west Eurasia moved in to the only open land left in Europe on the open plains of Ukraine. These immigrants took on the ukrainaina style language of the locals . Everyone knows that. The Ukrainian lands were only 4 million people in 1650 and are over 40 million today in 2012.At least three quarters of those ancestors came from outside Ukraine, between 1600 to 1900.You have a lot of thinking to do, I would say, and you have not done it yet. FYI. And , No I am not a jew, but you may be ancestrally part jewish as Galicia was over 50% Jewish in 1900. So don't worry about it, if you are.

Yawn-- nitpicking again.

Warrior Poet UG X wrote:

Yawn-- nitpicking again.

It is Not for those that don't like to think , that is true. History ,statistics, population genetics is beyond most people. Yah, let's just use slogans, Like God is great , or Death to Russia... Long Live Ukraine Death to the Infidels, Eastern Ukrainians Suck, Democrats are Scum Putin is a Madman etc. etc... Most Americans are pretty non thinking and rely on slogans and sayings to get them by without thinking. Thinking is not popular for Americans, I agree there, so just give us your usual shallow slogan or silly poem ..... no problem for me. For the few that want to think here and analyse though, here it is.You must be a very dull teacher.

Zuch wrote:

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The same things were very popular in the centrum of Europe only 20 years ago(Serbian genocide against muslims). So Europe also lost 1000 years?
What Russia does for Syria?? Suppleys arms to mad Assad and speaks so much nice words? Nothing more. Syrians now hate Russia.

Actually you did not update yourself on the issues regarding the War in former Yugoslavia. From the very start, there was presence of UN and NATO forces. The genocide of Serbs over Kosovo Albanians was also claimed. As it is evidenced now, the Kosovo Liberation Army members, some of which are now in power in Kosovo, and protected by KFOR, were executing Serbs, and selling their organs on the black market.

The Western stories about different groups in the conflict, and the role of UN and NATO forces, are not clarified. The leaders, persecuted in The Hague are not allowed to clarify them, and when Milosevic was ready to put witnesses in the stand, he mysteriously died in his cell.

Basically, all of these wars in last three decades are completely in the hands of the West, including the participation of UN, NATO, ICC in Hague, and the media. So, humanity definitely lost more than 1000 years, but it looks that so called “civilized world’” lost more than those, who are blamed to be savages.

Basically, before you make your typical Ukrainian reactionary claims, inform yourself. Actually, you Ukrainians may show your advance state of development, by fighting homelessness in your country, so that not so many people freeze to death, when next cold spell comes.

Actually I like to think. I just don't like to make a big issue of it by showing everyone that I can think. It is possible to analyze things to death an that is often what happens on the forum.

Sometimes things are much simpler than the 'intellectuals' like to see. They would rather discuss the whichness of the why for hours at end. They remind me of a somewhat cynical definition of philosophy "Two old men, sitting on a park bench, yelling and screaming at each other about something that neither of them can prove and no one else in the world gives a damn about."

Enjoy your endless debates. At least it keeps you out of other mischief.

Warrior Poet UG X wrote:

Actually I like to think. I just don't like to make a big issue of it by showing everyone that I can think. It is possible to analyze things to death an that is often what happens on the forum.
Sometimes things are much simpler than the 'intellectuals' like to see. They would rather discuss the whichness of the why for hours at end. They remind me of a somewhat cynical definition of philosophy "Two old men, sitting on a park bench, yelling and screaming at each other about something that neither of them can prove and no one else in the world gives a damn about."
Enjoy your endless debates. At least it keeps you out of other mischief.

Well fine then. But it is no good to be so rigid. Yes I like intellectual debates. You likr intellectual debates not so much ,so that is ok, but you sound like you may have a little dementia setting in as you have no new ideas ever, so that is boring.You teach the same clas here over and over and over... You seem like a fine chap, but you may be heading towards Altsheimer's, I think . Just sayin.

Wrong-- I just don't see the point in tilting at windmills when I have no power to change things.
Actually I teach, and have taught many classes ranging from middle school to college level. Being grounded in the hard sciences I have a built in avoidance of long, verbose conversations which go nowhere. I do not begrudge you your amusment. Enjoy it.

Consider this before you post-- the length of your posts rivals that of the arch idiot Stephnkya. While you are not as insane, it still drives most people up the wall to see so much verbosity. Cut to the chse-- you are not in the pulpit now.