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Zeligowski
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Just asking ....
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Warrior Poet UG X
Eugene, OR
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Nonsense- you are just stirring the pot to see who will rise to your bait.
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Zeligowski
Portadown, UK
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I'm asking a question, thats how its works, the Internet forums are just for that,
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Warrior Poet UG X
Eugene, OR
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I repeat- nonsense. You are aware (I am sure) from reading previous threads that the question of Bandera will polarize posters very quickly. You are just asking a leading question hoping to stir up anger and recrimination again. Go away.
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“Barmy Ukrainian”
Since: Jan 10
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There is no doubt in people´s mind, Banderka was a criminal, a killer of innocent people. Somehow, a minority in Ukrainka still worship him, even these days.
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Lukashenko is Dr Phil
Hyvinkää, Finland
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Pesky army wrote: There is no doubt in people´s mind, Banderka was a criminal, a killer of innocent people.
Somehow, a minority in Ukrainka still worship him, even these days. If it only was a minority. These backward peasants worship anything totalitarian because they can't operate without someone constantly telling them what to do. Personally I think at least the dogs would be in somewhat safe in Ukraine was a dictatorship again. Canibalism was banned in that dive during the 30s so perhaps dog eating would too.
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Zeligowski
Portadown, UK
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Warrior Poet UG X wrote: I repeat- nonsense. You are aware (I am sure) from reading previous threads that the question of Bandera will polarize posters very quickly. You are just asking a leading question hoping to stir up anger and recrimination again. Go away. Are you aware how many threads are here ? I have better things to do then read all post when 80% of the are rubbish anyway. I asked because I want to know the answer to my question.Simples
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Pro Ukraine
London, UK
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Zeligowski wrote: <quoted text>
Are you aware how many threads are here ? I have better things to do then read all post when 80% of the are rubbish anyway.
I asked because I want to know the answer to my question.Simples Type Bandera into Google, you'll find the answer that way, if you're really interested.
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Zeligowski
Portadown, UK
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Pro Ukraine wrote: <quoted text>Type Bandera into Google, you'll find the answer that way, if you're really interested. In the memory of his followers Bandera became a symbol of the revolutionary struggle for a Ukrainian state. His legacy has grown substantially since Ukrainian independence, particularly in Western Ukraine. In Lviv a major thoroughfare was renamed in his honour and a large monument to him is being planned. In 1990, a Bandera memorial museum was established in Volia Zaderevatska (Stryi raion), where the Bandera family had lived in the 1930s. The film Atentat (Assassin), focusing on Bandera’s struggles, was made by Oles Yanchuk in 1995. It doesn't really say much. I would like to have some personal opinions.
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“Barmy Ukrainian”
Since: Jan 10
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Pro Ukraine
Birmingham, UK
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Zeligowski wrote: <quoted text>
In the memory of his followers Bandera became a symbol of the revolutionary struggle for a Ukrainian state. His legacy has grown substantially since Ukrainian independence, particularly in Western Ukraine. In Lviv a major thoroughfare was renamed in his honour and a large monument to him is being planned. In 1990, a Bandera memorial museum was established in Volia Zaderevatska (Stryi raion), where the Bandera family had lived in the 1930s. The film Atentat (Assassin), focusing on Bandera’s struggles, was made by Oles Yanchuk in 1995.
It doesn't really say much. I would like to have some personal opinions. He's popular in Western Ukraine, but not so much in other parts of the country, especially Eastern Ukraine and Crimea where there are large ethnic Russian populaions. In Western Ukraine there are many monuments and streets named in his honour. The largest monument is in Lviv, which is seen as being at the centre of Ukrainian nationalism I've seen the monument in Lviv and it is big, people lay flowers in his memory there.
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Zeligowski
Portadown, UK
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Pesky army wrote: http://02varvara.wordpress.com /2010/01/30/the-simon-wiesenth al-centre-labelled-stepan-band era-a-%E2%80%9Cnazi-collaborat or%E2%80%9D/
May I help you ?
It´s all there. thank you
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Zeligowski
Portadown, UK
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Pro Ukraine wrote: <quoted text>He's popular in Western Ukraine, but not so much in other parts of the country, especially Eastern Ukraine and Crimea where there are large ethnic Russian populaions.
In Western Ukraine there are many monuments and streets named in his honour.
The largest monument is in Lviv, which is seen as being at the centre of Ukrainian nationalism
I've seen the monument in Lviv and it is big, people lay flowers in his memory there. Are those people aware what ideology he adhered to ?
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Pro Ukraine
Portsmouth, UK
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Pesky army wrote: http://02varvara.wordpress.com /2010/01/30/the-simon-wiesenth al-centre-labelled-stepan-band era-a-%E2%80%9Cnazi-collaborat or%E2%80%9D/
May I help you ?
It´s all there. The Weisenthal centre? Oh yes, really impartial and unbiased anyone who takes them seriously is a total nitwit.
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Pro Ukraine
Portsmouth, UK
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Zeligowski wrote: <quoted text>
thank you For what propogasnda/ The above SLOwvak comes from a country which collaborated with the nazis during the war, that is why he is such a xenophobic bigot.
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Pro Ukraine
Portsmouth, UK
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Zeligowski wrote: <quoted text>
Are those people aware what ideology he adhered to ? Of course, a free and independent Ukraine. He was anti nazi and anti commie, if you were to believe some idiots, you would think that he supported and collaborated with nazis, he didn't he used them.
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“Barmy Ukrainian”
Since: Jan 10
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Another lie ! He collaborated with Nazis willingly. His hoodlums killed many people.
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“Barmy Ukrainian”
Since: Jan 10
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“The nation was brainwashed for the five years of Yushchenko’s rule,” believes Rada deputy Vadim Kolesnichenko.“Actions like this are trying to write-off the sacrifice this country made to be liberated from the Nazis. And they are a result of pro-fascist propaganda like the rehabilitation of Nazi collaborators like Shukhevich and Bandera.” The truth is in the writing !
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Pro Ukraine
Portsmouth, UK
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You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you over the head and kicked you in the butt.
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“Barmy Ukrainian”
Since: Jan 10
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Zeli, may I point out ? Just look at the above Pouk the fart´s comments. Every time he gets cornered, faces the truth, he resorts to abuse. Beware of him. He is clueless, knows nothing, never posted any truth here & abuses folks round here. Make your own decision.
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