Almost fourth of Russians believe Ukraine is an enemy - poll

Blatnoy wrote:

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Whats wrong about my nickname? Dont be that narrowminded, alot of Ukrainian people living here in Russian Far East.Really a lot, because or former USSR colonizing programm here. If u are living in US that doesnt mean that u know more than me. Come here and say to my face that u more ukrainian than me.
U seems to be one of thouse stupid nationalists who just need to hate someone, or life will be no good to them.
And yes, i really think that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus is one country.

Ana is one who thinks that she alone owns Ukraine, when many people have Ukrainian ancestors and belong to Ukraine and do not have the narrow-minded viewpoint which she has.

ana wrote:

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You don't tell you nationality because you ashamed of it. Genocidal SERB you are living in US, in Colorado like parasite using all American goods ,hiding behind freedom of speech and pouring dirt on America and the rest of the World. Spreading lies about other nations and paranoyed of NATO. Calling people nasty names on this forum , insulting the memory of Ukrainians by calling HOLODOMOR a scham. Twisting history to fit bolshevic propaganda, exusing Stalin for Ribentrop-Molotov pact and spreading hateful lies about other nations.

It is my business to decide when if ever I say who and what nationality I am and it is not up you to say and NO it is NOT RUSSIAN AND NOT SERB. But it is an eastern slavic language.

People can read and they can see that it is you calling people nasty names, you and why nut and observor and not me. So quit lying.

YOu are the one twisting history to the slant of the Ukrainian diaspora Canadaian view, who is rewriting history.

YOU should stop lying and twisting everything, because what you are saying were done in public face to face you would be in court for slander.

So calling people names and slandering them on line hiding behind your computer monitor will not be the same as face to face. So stick your bolshevik, Serb, and other lying crappola.

Stefanya wrote:

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YOu are the one twisting history to the slant of the Ukrainian diaspora Canadaian view, who is rewriting history.
YOU should stop lying and twisting everything, because what you are saying were done in public face to face you would be in court for slander.
So calling people names and slandering them on line hiding behind your computer monitor will not be the same as face to face. So stick your bolshevik, Serb, and other lying crappola.

You are self twisting and rewriting history as well according to your own belief.

You self think you know everything of history. In your own imaginary world you may even know everything!

Of the world history in Europe you know very little and that only partially. Don't blame other of lying as you as well tell lies yourself.

Matti correct on Stefanya

Cheney Calls for Ukraine Unity to Meet Threats, Backs NATO Bid
By Roger Runningen and Daryna Krasnolutska

Sept. 5 (Bloomberg)-- U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney called for unity in Ukraine to meet potential threats following Russia's five-day war with Georgia, and renewed U.S. backing for the former Soviet republic's bid to join NATO.

``Ukraine's best hope to overcome these threats is to be united -- united domestically first and foremost, and united with other democracies,'' Cheney, 67, said after talks with Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko in the capital Kiev.

Ukraine is the third Russian neighbor Cheney has visited this week on a mission ordered by President George W. Bush to assert U.S. interests in the area and to assure regional leaders of American support after Russia's military incursion into Georgia last month.

Ukraine, divided by language and politics into a Russian- dominated east and Ukrainian west, became a source of increasing concern for the West after Russia rolled over Georgia's army and recognized the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner of France, which holds the European Union's rotating presidency, said on Aug. 27 that Ukraine and Moldova may now be ``Russian targets.''

Yushchenko, 54, has steered Ukraine, a conduit for natural- gas and crude oil exports to Europe, toward membership of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the EU. The military alliance agreed in April that Ukraine and Georgia will eventually become members, while refusing to put their bids on a fast track.

`Urgent' Bid

Yushchenko said Ukraine's bid to join NATO ``is really urgent,'' and that expansion of the alliance to the east ``will be an ensured factor of stability in the region.''...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...

Lets see. A Fourth of Russians believe Ukraine is an enemy.

Do they know that half of Ukaraine are Russians? The eastern half of the country. ANd that all of Russian folklore and Ukaraine are almost one?
Russian Icon eggs hand painted or even the beautiful Pysanka eggs celebrate a great mystery both Nations hold. Easter.

As with most Holidays ( which to truely be a Holi-day it first must have been recognized as a "Holy' day), the commercialization and capital enterprises have obscured their true meaning. For instance, why on Easter do we who celebrate Easter, celebrate Easter?

Certainly Easter is a time marked in Christiandom when The Christ was crucified on Golgatha. Yet, this is hardly a time to celebrate such brutal fate were it not for one fact. He is Risen! He overcame death. And , that is why we celebrate. The overcoming of death and resurrection. Yet, we see symbolized to this day from centuries of tradition both a Rabbit, and the Egg. What mystery do they hold which can help us today understand more the Easter festival and celebration?

The rabbit has no enemies. It is, in the animal world the most pure representative of 'selflessness' and 'innocense'. True love for another is at its best when it is selfless as well. And the ultimate form of this selflessness ly's in the act of sacrifice which The Christ gave to humanity. With , I might add, complete innocense.

And here we have the Egg. What mystery surrounds the egg at Easter that is today a symbol of the occasion?

The deadest mineral known to man is calcium. It is what our bones are made of. So, calcium is most like death. With the Egg we see life within that outer shell of pure calcium, surrounded by calcium/death is life to come and resurrection. For not long does it take for that life to be born from such a encasement as the shell represents. And with that understanding, comes the understanding of 'Resurrection'.

There. Very common ground is agiain found. Da!

Tooth4U wrote:

As with most Holidays ( which to truely be a Holi-day it first must have been recognized as a "Holy' day), the commercialization and capital enterprises have obscured their true meaning. For instance, why on Easter do we who celebrate Easter, celebrate Easter?
Certainly Easter is a time marked in Christiandom when The Christ was crucified on Golgatha. Yet, this is hardly a time to celebrate such brutal fate were it not for one fact. He is Risen! He overcame death. And , that is why we celebrate. The overcoming of death and resurrection. Yet, we see symbolized to this day from centuries of tradition both a Rabbit, and the Egg. What mystery do they hold which can help us today understand more the Easter festival and celebration?
The rabbit has no enemies. It is, in the animal world the most pure representative of 'selflessness' and 'innocense'. True love for another is at its best when it is selfless as well. And the ultimate form of this selflessness ly's in the act of sacrifice which The Christ gave to humanity. With , I might add, complete innocense.
And here we have the Egg. What mystery surrounds the egg at Easter that is today a symbol of the occasion?
The deadest mineral known to man is calcium. It is what our bones are made of. So, calcium is most like death. With the Egg we see life within that outer shell of pure calcium, surrounded by calcium/death is life to come and resurrection. For not long does it take for that life to be born from such a encasement as the shell represents. And with that understanding, comes the understanding of 'Resurrection'.

My friend - so very much of what you say is true. BUT the rabbit has no enemies?? I think you are wrong. Rabbits are fair game for 1) coyotes (small prairie wolves), 2) Hawks and Eagles, 3) Bobcats, 4) mountain lions (cougers), 5) Rattlesnakes, and on and on. Don't forget also that many people like to hunt and eat rabbits. Please, when talking natural history, make sure of your facts. Thank you.:)

Russian stocks have lost 1/4 of their value since the invasion of Georgia. $25 billion in investment capital has left Russia and more is leaving every day. This is just the beginning. The reprecussions will last over a decade. If they continue their aggression they're power to make war will diminish further.

Tooth4U wrote:

Lets see. A Fourth of Russians believe Ukraine is an enemy.
Do they know that half of Ukaraine are Russians? The eastern half of the country. ANd that all of Russian folklore and Ukaraine are almost one?
Russian Icon eggs hand painted or even the beautiful Pysanka eggs celebrate a great mystery both Nations hold. Easter.

Of course they know this. Actually three-fourths of Russians, which is the vast majority do not think that Ukraine is the enemy. The enemy is the orange revolution, making Ukraine the democracy bought and paid for by the west.

I think Russians trust Ukrainians, they just do not trust the phoney Orange Revolution government and america's lapdog Victor Yuschenko, who yips and barks and does as he is told. Yuchenko's government doesn't represent the majority of Ukraine and he is not that poplular.

To Tooth4you.

Those who call people they do not know
"my friend" are only being condescending. BEware of those pretending to be a friend who will try to suck you into trusting them and then they will make more condescending remarks.

Richard wrote:

Russian stocks have lost 1/4 of their value since the invasion of Georgia.$25 billion in investment capital has left Russia and more is leaving every day. This is just the beginning. The reprecussions will last over a decade. If they continue their aggression they're power to make war will diminish further.

I guess there is a God after all!

Russian stocks have lost 1/4 of their value since they invaded Georgia. They have also lost $25 billion in investment capital, with more leaving every day. If Russian aggression continues in a decade or so they will not be able to afford modern arms, but this time they will be left with less than the last.

Russia will see a lot of enemies in their own country and hope it will be soon
An Answer for Russians

After recognition of the independence of 3 Caucasian states: Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia, US planning to recognition the independence of Adygea, Altai, Buryatia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Kalmykia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Karelia, Komi, Mari El, Mordovia, Sakha, North Ossetia, Tatarstan, Tuva, Udmurtia, Khakassia, and Chuvashia.
It is assumed that the "leadership" of these recognized by the US countries would constitute a so-called "governments in exile", which will be located in the West.
Meanwhile Wayne also announced a partial mobilization of the Navy, caused by the Russian aggression against Georgia.

Stefanya wrote:

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Of course they know this. Actually three-fourths of Russians, which is the vast majority do not think that Ukraine is the enemy. The enemy is the orange revolution, making Ukraine the democracy bought and paid for by the west.
I think Russians trust Ukrainians, they just do not trust the phoney Orange Revolution government and america's lapdog Victor Yuschenko, who yips and barks and does as he is told. Yuchenko's government doesn't represent the majority of Ukraine and he is not that poplular.

As well they Shouldnt! The Orange shirts of Ireland? hahah

Color revolutions are a pathetic example of a lack of intelligence in western intelligence agencies. No matter how contrived they orchestrate events for the Bankers.

The Rose Revolution? Thats where I come in.

Its very hard for Russians who have never known democracy to understand the dynamics of democracy in Ukraine and Georgia.

Russians fear what they don't understand.

Russians hide behind the simplicity of neofascist authoritarianism.

Its much easier for Russians to understand one man rule.

Democracy is dangerous to Russian imperialism.

The Rabbit has no enemies. There are those who make of the Rabbit oppurtunity, yes. Yet the Rabbit will if the meadow is calm , slowly come to join in whatever life is there.
Is there another animal in the animal Kingdom that the Rabbit seeks out to battle? No.
The Rabbit is the pure selflessness of having no enemies of its own. Even though the wolf or fox might be so designed to react oppurtune and make the Rabbit a victum. The Rabbit would never in kind do that to another in the animal Kingdom.

Rabbits from thier perspective have no enemies. It is other creatures who make of them oppurtunity.

If you ever come upon a Rabbit in the wild. It stops and looks.

It the is up to you to decide who the enemy is.

Stefanya wrote:

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ACtually you are more of a foreigner than Maxim is. Ukraine was a part of Russia for over 350 years. So he has more right to be concerned with Ukraine as Russians actually fought the NAZis for it. So what gives the USA the right to poke their noses into UKRIANIAN AFFAIRS. jUST WONDERING!!! Maybe Ukrainians would rather not be bamboozled into helping the USA grab countries and resources which do not belong to it.

Rassia was ander Mongolians for 300 years also
and see what happen.