Ukraine leftists meet NATO envoys with burning U.S. flag

More lunatic communists with their red Bolshevik banners fluttering and their usual icons of Lenin and Stalin....

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Your conscience wrote:

The Bolshevik "revolution" was financed by the international bankers.Marx lies in peace in the heart of imperialism in London's Highgate cemetry.Marxism is Imperialism's Trojan horse for the working classes and the oppressed.
911 was an inside job.

By international Jews.

Why dont you like Jews?
I`m really proud that in Russia jews actively participated in Revolution. In no other country could that happen. In no other land could people of so many different nationalities unite.

Mr Because wrote:

Why dont you like Jews?
I`m really proud that in Russia jews actively participated in Revolution. In no other country could that happen. In no other land could people of so many different nationalities unite.

SU, the paradise on earth, right? So you admire a revolution which did cost millions of lifes? And this all for killing even more people and enslaving whole nations for half a century.
Your attitude is just inhuman.

It was revolution because people wanted freedom.
What do you expect from a revolution and people who were fed with their life?
Do you suppose they revolted to ask politely for a change?
They revolted to kill those who oppressed them.
It was a real war.
SU wasnt paradise but it citizens had its opportunities too.

Its not for you to decide if someones attitudes are inhuman or not. The God didnt give you this right. Are you a messiah?

Mr Because wrote:

It was revolution because people wanted freedom.

And got the opposite.
In this case it wasn't not much about what the people wanted, it was about what certain leaders wanted. The rest was created with force and propaganda.

Mr Because wrote:

What do you expect from a revolution and people who were fed with their life?
Do you suppose they revolted to ask politely for a change?
They revolted to kill those who oppressed them.
It was a real war.

Again, it was not about what people wanted.

Mr Because wrote:

SU wasnt paradise but it citizens had its opportunities too.

Does the same apply to nazi germany?

Mr Because wrote:

Its not for you to decide if someones attitudes are inhuman or not.

It does only need some sense for humanity and a clear mind to call a terror regime which butchered 20 million innocent people (and it's justifiers) inhuman.

Mr Because wrote:

The God didnt give you this right. Are you a messiah?

Nope, I'm not religious :)

congrat..on your chart, well done
but those answers, just another drivel once again !
what´s going on in that tartu, do you all take on fuel nightly ?

"Does the same apply to nazi germany?"

It actually applies for every country. U.S. Japan, Iran, China, USSR.

I wasnt talking about 20 mln killed people.
I wasnt talking about victims at all

What exactly do you mean. According to your saying Every country is inhuman.
U.S. dropped bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki, remember Vietman.
Japan slaughtered 50 mln Chineese, remember Nanking.
Turkey slaughtered 1.5 million Armenians.
England, France and U.S. transferred 100 million Africans as slaves to America, more than 30 million died.
Chingiz-Khan killed millions in his wars allover the globe.
Peter The Great killed million of peasants building St.Petersburg, navy, plants, fabrics.
Timur Tamerlan exterminated poplations of all towns on his way, leaving only those people who he could use.
Mongolians were always leading wars with China, killing millions.
African countries even now are astonishingly atrocious. Remember recent cases of genocide and so on.
Remember Crusades, Arabian wars.
Remember WW1, WW2.

All history of humanity is a history of wars.
We are savage.
Every country slaughtered others people.
It isnt just single country to blame or a single nation who is in charge.
It is all humanity in Charge.
If you do not want Genocides, Atrocities the best way is to kill your children and childrens children to break the history of Humanity.

Resent konflicts- Kosovo, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Abckhazia, Osetia, Eta is Spain, Ireland, Kurds, Tibet.
What else? You may continue this list. And it will never end.

It doesn't matter how much Communistic or Bolshevistic they are. Communism is in the past for them - they live in democratic Ukraine. And let Ukraine decide by means of democratic ways (i.e. by simple majority)- whether It should be in NATO or not.
For now as you can see - 54.9 against joining the alliance and only 22.3 backs joining.
So if Ukraine will be forced into alliance by its government - then present Ukrainian government is not democratic but totalitarian. People have their right to decide whether their country should be in NATO or not.

Swandiver wrote:

More lunatic communists with their red Bolshevik banners fluttering and their usual icons of Lenin and Stalin....
http://www.vlksm-lksmu.org/pics/ukraine.jpg
http://www.cpcml.ca/images2008/080331-Ukraine...
http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0709/ukrai...

Mr Because wrote:

"Does the same apply to nazi germany?"
It actually applies for every country. U.S. Japan, Iran, China, USSR.
I wasnt talking about 20 mln killed people.
I wasnt talking about victims at all
What exactly do you mean. According to your saying Every country is inhuman.
U.S. dropped bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki, remember Vietman.
Japan slaughtered 50 mln Chineese, remember Nanking.
Turkey slaughtered 1.5 million Armenians.
England, France and U.S. transferred 100 million Africans as slaves to America, more than 30 million died.
Chingiz-Khan killed millions in his wars allover the globe.
Peter The Great killed million of peasants building St.Petersburg, navy, plants, fabrics.
Timur Tamerlan exterminated poplations of all towns on his way, leaving only those people who he could use.
Mongolians were always leading wars with China, killing millions.
African countries even now are astonishingly atrocious. Remember recent cases of genocide and so on.
Remember Crusades, Arabian wars.
Remember WW1, WW2.
All history of humanity is a history of wars.
We are savage.
Every country slaughtered others people.
It isnt just single country to blame or a single nation who is in charge.
It is all humanity in Charge.
If you do not want Genocides, Atrocities the best way is to kill your children and childrens children to break the history of Humanity.
Resent konflicts- Kosovo, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Abckhazia, Osetia, Eta is Spain, Ireland, Kurds, Tibet.
What else? You may continue this list. And it will never end.

Sure, and I totally condemned all those crimes and the regimes who committed them. There are no justifications to any of those crimes.
Yet you seemed to justify the soviet revolution (and therefore the crimes). In another thread you just justified the Russification.

Serge wrote:

It doesn't matter how much Communistic or Bolshevistic they are. Communism is in the past for them - they live in democratic Ukraine. And let Ukraine decide by means of democratic ways (i.e. by simple majority)- whether It should be in NATO or not.
For now as you can see - 54.9 against joining the alliance and only 22.3 backs joining.
So if Ukraine will be forced into alliance by its government - then present Ukrainian government is not democratic but totalitarian. People have their right to decide whether their country should be in NATO or not.
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For the most part I agree. Just one issue: they self elected this parliament to represent them. It would not be the first time a democratically elected parliament makes a decision the majority of the population doesn't support. Not that I justify it, it just is like this.

Revolution was absolutely right thing.
People wanted freedom and they fought for it.
I dont see anythin bad about Russification.

Mr Because wrote:

Revolution was absolutely right thing.
People wanted freedom and they fought for it.
I dont see anythin bad about Russification.

Russification is wrong because not all peoples of the USSR or Russia are Russians. Russia and the USSR should have embraced the different cultures that comprised it. The reason they didn't was that they were afraid that nationalism would rise and people would rebel against Moscow rule.

Isn't that what we have seen in the last few years? Russians worst nightmare has come true.

Not all, but no so little as you think - all of ukrainians spoke fluent russian and go to RF to earn money. So Ukraine must be opened for Russia in the same value as Russia is opened for Ukraine.
Honestly, How do you think?:)

not all of course but the most of them do :)

LENIN wrote:

not all of course but the most of them do :)

Not all, not most, but some.

Ukrainians go to Russia to work. The money must be good. But they will probably come back some day.

I wish that all ukranians go to your country. What are they doing in Russia? they wanted their own country they got it. The Israel - jewish got their country - what are they doing all over the world - they breach perception of Moisey! LOL
If you don't know -
"When an ukranian was born - Jewish began to cry"
They are really very proud of it. You may ask any ukranian nationalist and see yourself.

LOL

Regardless of Russian racism, or Russia's distorted historiography, or Russian chauvinism, neofascism and supremacism--the main point is that Ukraine in pursuing NATO membership.

LENIN wrote:

I wish that all ukranians go to your country. What are they doing in Russia? they wanted their own country they got it. The Israel - jewish got their country - what are they doing all over the world - they breach perception of Moisey! LOL
If you don't know -
"When an ukranian was born - Jewish began to cry"
They are really very proud of it. You may ask any ukranian nationalist and see yourself.
LOL

Why do Russian care what Ukrainians want for their country?

I am Ukrainian and so I care. What is your concern, and don't tell me its the Russians inside Ukraine, because they have all the same advantages as everyone else?

More Russian anti-NATO octogenarians earning a bit to come out and protest....
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